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Emails still stuck in Outbox Outlook 2007 SP2



 
 
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  #11  
Old July 14th 09, 07:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook]
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"scorpionleather" wrote in message
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..thanks, Is there any way I can "block" future third party add-ins from
installing into Outlook? For example when I update iTunes or allow the
Adobe auto-update, I don't want these add-ins to silently re-install.


I distinctly recall being able to disable the installation of the iTunes
add-in when I installed iTunes. I've never had Adobe Acrobat, so I don't know
about that.
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Old July 14th 09, 08:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
scorpionleather
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I know that most, if not all, of these applications never provided me with
checkboxes during installation to create Outlook add-ins. I would be sure
to uncheck them, but instead they just silently mangled Outlook.

This kind of paratism should be put to an end by Microsoft. This may be a
part of the security team's interest. If one application is embedding
itself within some other application, there should be a warning dialog
similar to UAC.

Otherwise if Microsoft doesn't do that security enhancement, then they
should not be surprised when Microsoft is blamed for things like mail stuck
in the outbox..

  #13  
Old July 15th 09, 01:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
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"scorpionleather" wrote in message
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I know that most, if not all, of these applications never provided me with
checkboxes during installation to create Outlook add-ins. I would be sure to
uncheck them, but instead they just silently mangled Outlook.


Maybe it's because I always perform custom installs whenever the option of
such is given. It could be that's where I saw the option for iTunes.
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Old July 15th 09, 04:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Diane Poremsky [MVP]
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Unfortunately, there isn't a way to prevent it. It's usually not a problem
as most of the time its obvious that you are installing something that works
with outlook. iTunes is the sneaky one since people install it for music
without realizing it can sync calendar and contacts on ipods too. (It may
be an option but half the time people hit ok automatically without reading
the dialog.) Other sneaky addins are preinstalled (like Dell's
outlookaddin.)

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"scorpionleather" wrote in message
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..thanks, Is there any way I can "block" future third party add-ins from
installing into Outlook? For example when I update iTunes or allow the
Adobe auto-update, I don't want these add-ins to silently re-install.

Vista pops up the UAC dialog all the time to help contain rogue
applications, so why couldn't there be another dialog that detects the
mutilation of Office apps and asks the user whether they want to allow an
add-in or not..


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Old July 16th 09, 09:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
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I work in the IT industry. I always choose "Advanced" on all installs to
keep my system clean and uncheck all the unecessary tag-alongs. Yet these
add-ins snuck past me. So just imagine, the add-ins are there for all the
rest of the general public too. So Microsoft should implement stronger
security to prevent application parasitism.

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Old July 16th 09, 07:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
scorpionleather
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Default Emails still stuck in Outbox Outlook 2007 SP2

All this time we were blaming the third party add-ins.

However as I type this, there is an email stuck in the Outbox and all of the
add-ins (except for the Microsoft ones) have been removed.

So it may be a Microsoft bug after all.

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Old July 18th 09, 04:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Diane Poremsky [MVP]
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What error message do you get on the send/receive? Did you try unchecking
the MS addins? Unless you use VBA macros or exchange server, you don't need
the extra addins.

Please include the previous message in the reply so everyone knows the
problem and things you've already replied.

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"scorpionleather" wrote in message
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All this time we were blaming the third party add-ins.

However as I type this, there is an email stuck in the Outbox and all of
the add-ins (except for the Microsoft ones) have been removed.

So it may be a Microsoft bug after all.


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Old July 19th 09, 07:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
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"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message
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What error message do you get on the send/receive? Did you try unchecking
the MS addins? Unless you use VBA macros or exchange server, you don't
need the extra addins.


There is no error message at all. What happens is that after a few hours
goes by (or a day) I wonder why someone didn't reply to my email. Then I
notice, of course, the email is still in my Outbox! So I exit Outlook, and
then start it up again. Upon starting again, the email is finally sent. So
now I have a regular habit of restarting Outlook.

I haven't tried unchecking the Microsoft add-ins because I assume that
Microsoft can communicate within their departments to ensure that Microsoft
add-ins do not mangle their own Outlook product. However it appears that
this is a major Microsoft bug and there is no way for Microsoft to deny it,
they just have to fix it and then I won't have to restart Outlook all the
time.

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Old July 19th 09, 06:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Diane Poremsky [MVP]
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It's not a major bug - if it were, many more people would have problems
sending mail. There are 2 common causes - an antivirus scanner scanning
outbound mail and setting the send/receive settings under 8 -10 min. ( or
pressing the send/receive button too frequently).

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"scorpionleather" wrote in message
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"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message
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What error message do you get on the send/receive? Did you try
unchecking the MS addins? Unless you use VBA macros or exchange server,
you don't need the extra addins.


There is no error message at all. What happens is that after a few hours
goes by (or a day) I wonder why someone didn't reply to my email. Then I
notice, of course, the email is still in my Outbox! So I exit Outlook,
and then start it up again. Upon starting again, the email is finally
sent. So now I have a regular habit of restarting Outlook.

I haven't tried unchecking the Microsoft add-ins because I assume that
Microsoft can communicate within their departments to ensure that
Microsoft add-ins do not mangle their own Outlook product. However it
appears that this is a major Microsoft bug and there is no way for
Microsoft to deny it, they just have to fix it and then I won't have to
restart Outlook all the time.


  #20  
Old July 23rd 09, 04:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
scorpionleather
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"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message
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It's not a major bug - if it were, many more people would have problems
sending mail. There are 2 common causes - an antivirus scanner scanning
outbound mail and setting the send/receive settings under 8 -10 min. ( or
pressing the send/receive button too frequently).


With all respect and thanks for your help so far ... but ... I disagree.
This is a major bug and if you search Google there are hundreds (if not
thousands) of postings from people talking about the exact same problem. In
most of these postings there is never any resolution. Having email stuck in
such a core email application that is supposed to reliably send email is a
critical bug.

 




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