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  #1  
Old May 26th 06, 10:09 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.installation
Sandy Miller com>
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Posts: 12
Default Outlook 2007 Beta 2 - BIG problems

Errr. OK, I realise this is a Beta. I understand it is a Beta 2.

I know things dont always work as they should and that I should not 'rely'
on Beta software of any kind.

However, I 'think' I am safe in assuming that Outlook 2007 Beta 2 should be
able to receive my email and actually SHOW me the content....

I am concerned, I installed it, it runs (sort of OK), it appears to do what
it says it should, BUT, EVERY EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED IN Outlook 2007 Beta 2
since I installed it IS BROKEN. I CANNOT SEE ANY CONTENT IN ANY EMAIL
RECEIVED.

They come into my inbox, but if you look at the space below you will see how
Outlook renders them....


































So I am worried - surely a BETA2 would actually show me the email!!! I
cannot imagine MS sending this out to folks.....

How do I view my emails?


--
MS Professional
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Old May 26th 06, 10:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.installation
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
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Posts: 9,348
Default Outlook 2007 Beta 2 - BIG problems

Provide complete details on how you installed the beta and migrated data and
account settings.
Always create a new profile when you try an upgrade installation.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Sandy Miller com" miller(dot)sandy(at)gmaildot wrote in message
news
Errr. OK, I realise this is a Beta. I understand it is a Beta 2.

I know things dont always work as they should and that I should not 'rely'
on Beta software of any kind.

However, I 'think' I am safe in assuming that Outlook 2007 Beta 2 should
be
able to receive my email and actually SHOW me the content....

I am concerned, I installed it, it runs (sort of OK), it appears to do
what
it says it should, BUT, EVERY EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED IN Outlook 2007 Beta 2
since I installed it IS BROKEN. I CANNOT SEE ANY CONTENT IN ANY EMAIL
RECEIVED.

They come into my inbox, but if you look at the space below you will see
how
Outlook renders them....


































So I am worried - surely a BETA2 would actually show me the email!!! I
cannot imagine MS sending this out to folks.....

How do I view my emails?


--
MS Professional



  #3  
Old May 26th 06, 10:27 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.installation
Sandy Miller com>
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Posts: 12
Default Outlook 2007 Beta 2 - BIG problems

Have a look at the previous post just below this thread.


--
MS Professional


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide complete details on how you installed the beta and migrated data and
account settings.
Always create a new profile when you try an upgrade installation.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Sandy Miller com" miller(dot)sandy(at)gmaildot wrote in message
news
Errr. OK, I realise this is a Beta. I understand it is a Beta 2.

I know things dont always work as they should and that I should not 'rely'
on Beta software of any kind.

However, I 'think' I am safe in assuming that Outlook 2007 Beta 2 should
be
able to receive my email and actually SHOW me the content....

I am concerned, I installed it, it runs (sort of OK), it appears to do
what
it says it should, BUT, EVERY EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED IN Outlook 2007 Beta 2
since I installed it IS BROKEN. I CANNOT SEE ANY CONTENT IN ANY EMAIL
RECEIVED.

They come into my inbox, but if you look at the space below you will see
how
Outlook renders them....


































So I am worried - surely a BETA2 would actually show me the email!!! I
cannot imagine MS sending this out to folks.....

How do I view my emails?


--
MS Professional




  #4  
Old May 26th 06, 11:01 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.installation
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
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Posts: 9,348
Default Outlook 2007 Beta 2 - BIG problems

I did.
None of the information anyone would need to troubleshoot is there. Nor did
you provide any of the information for which I asked.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Sandy Miller com" miller(dot)sandy(at)gmaildot wrote in message
...
Have a look at the previous post just below this thread.


--
MS Professional


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide complete details on how you installed the beta and migrated data
and
account settings.
Always create a new profile when you try an upgrade installation.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Sandy Miller com" miller(dot)sandy(at)gmaildot wrote in message
news
Errr. OK, I realise this is a Beta. I understand it is a Beta 2.

I know things dont always work as they should and that I should not
'rely'
on Beta software of any kind.

However, I 'think' I am safe in assuming that Outlook 2007 Beta 2
should
be
able to receive my email and actually SHOW me the content....

I am concerned, I installed it, it runs (sort of OK), it appears to do
what
it says it should, BUT, EVERY EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED IN Outlook 2007
Beta 2
since I installed it IS BROKEN. I CANNOT SEE ANY CONTENT IN ANY EMAIL
RECEIVED.

They come into my inbox, but if you look at the space below you will
see
how
Outlook renders them....


































So I am worried - surely a BETA2 would actually show me the email!!! I
cannot imagine MS sending this out to folks.....

How do I view my emails?


--
MS Professional






  #5  
Old May 26th 06, 11:05 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.installation
papaours
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Posts: 2
Default Outlook 2007 Beta 2 - BIG problems

Glad to see I'm not the only one, for mor info, I reverterd to Outlook 2003
and the mails that have been renderd empty are now totaly empy, even in OWA.

my config was Outlook 2007 beta 2 french running on a brand new XP pro
workstation SP2 + all the updates with 1024 K of RAM , connected on an
exchange 2003 SP2 server running on Windows 2K3 domain server + last service
pack aund all updates.

please help


"Sandy Miller" wrote:

Have a look at the previous post just below this thread.


--
MS Professional


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide complete details on how you installed the beta and migrated data and
account settings.
Always create a new profile when you try an upgrade installation.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Sandy Miller com" miller(dot)sandy(at)gmaildot wrote in message
news
Errr. OK, I realise this is a Beta. I understand it is a Beta 2.

I know things dont always work as they should and that I should not 'rely'
on Beta software of any kind.

However, I 'think' I am safe in assuming that Outlook 2007 Beta 2 should
be
able to receive my email and actually SHOW me the content....

I am concerned, I installed it, it runs (sort of OK), it appears to do
what
it says it should, BUT, EVERY EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED IN Outlook 2007 Beta 2
since I installed it IS BROKEN. I CANNOT SEE ANY CONTENT IN ANY EMAIL
RECEIVED.

They come into my inbox, but if you look at the space below you will see
how
Outlook renders them....


































So I am worried - surely a BETA2 would actually show me the email!!! I
cannot imagine MS sending this out to folks.....

How do I view my emails?


--
MS Professional




  #6  
Old May 26th 06, 11:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.installation
Sandy Miller com>
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 12
Default Outlook 2007 Beta 2 - BIG problems

OK I'm prepared to swallow the fact that the emails I received in Outlook
2007 Beta 2 are screwed beyond repair. I accept I am stupid for expecting MS
Outlook 2007 Beta 2 to enable me to, you know, read my emails, and, maybe
even reply to them.

I accept that it appears MS Outlook 2007 Beta 2 was not designed to do that.

So if I uninstall it, do I get my Office 2003 back and the facility to read
my email? Or have I made a big boo boo?

Did you do that? Did it work with just an uninstall?





--
MS Professional


"papaours" wrote:

Glad to see I'm not the only one, for mor info, I reverterd to Outlook 2003
and the mails that have been renderd empty are now totaly empy, even in OWA.

my config was Outlook 2007 beta 2 french running on a brand new XP pro
workstation SP2 + all the updates with 1024 K of RAM , connected on an
exchange 2003 SP2 server running on Windows 2K3 domain server + last service
pack aund all updates.

please help


"Sandy Miller" wrote:

Have a look at the previous post just below this thread.


--
MS Professional


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide complete details on how you installed the beta and migrated data and
account settings.
Always create a new profile when you try an upgrade installation.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Sandy Miller com" miller(dot)sandy(at)gmaildot wrote in message
news Errr. OK, I realise this is a Beta. I understand it is a Beta 2.

I know things dont always work as they should and that I should not 'rely'
on Beta software of any kind.

However, I 'think' I am safe in assuming that Outlook 2007 Beta 2 should
be
able to receive my email and actually SHOW me the content....

I am concerned, I installed it, it runs (sort of OK), it appears to do
what
it says it should, BUT, EVERY EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED IN Outlook 2007 Beta 2
since I installed it IS BROKEN. I CANNOT SEE ANY CONTENT IN ANY EMAIL
RECEIVED.

They come into my inbox, but if you look at the space below you will see
how
Outlook renders them....


































So I am worried - surely a BETA2 would actually show me the email!!! I
cannot imagine MS sending this out to folks.....

How do I view my emails?


--
MS Professional



  #7  
Old May 26th 06, 12:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.installation
neo [mvp outlook]
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Posts: 293
Default Outlook 2007 Beta 2 - BIG problems

Sandy,

If you go back to Office/Outlook 2003, you will definitely need to delete
your mail profile. Reboot. Create a new mail profile.

As for the blank message(s), I am unable to duplicate when connecting to a
Microsoft Exchange 2003 (with Service Pack 2) on Windows 2003 (SP1). Just
so you know, Outlook 2007 B2 for me is running in cached mode and I tried
both connection types (RPC over HTTPS and TCP). What Russ really wanted to
know is what type of mail account is giving you an issue (POP3, IMAP,
Exchange) and what is the default delivery location. If it happens to be a
personal folders file (PST), is it the Outlook 97/2002 flavor or the newer
one.


Papaours,
Do you have any security products installed (antivirus, antispam, .etc) that
can scan e-mail? If you do, I always suggest uninstalling these products
and then retrying on a system that is nothing more than Operating System +
Beta product. After all, the point of running a beta product is to find out
where the break is so it can be reported back to the vendor.

"Sandy Miller com" miller(dot)sandy(at)gmaildot wrote in message
...
OK I'm prepared to swallow the fact that the emails I received in Outlook
2007 Beta 2 are screwed beyond repair. I accept I am stupid for expecting
MS
Outlook 2007 Beta 2 to enable me to, you know, read my emails, and, maybe
even reply to them.

I accept that it appears MS Outlook 2007 Beta 2 was not designed to do
that.

So if I uninstall it, do I get my Office 2003 back and the facility to
read
my email? Or have I made a big boo boo?

Did you do that? Did it work with just an uninstall?





--
MS Professional


"papaours" wrote:

Glad to see I'm not the only one, for mor info, I reverterd to Outlook
2003
and the mails that have been renderd empty are now totaly empy, even in
OWA.

my config was Outlook 2007 beta 2 french running on a brand new XP pro
workstation SP2 + all the updates with 1024 K of RAM , connected on an
exchange 2003 SP2 server running on Windows 2K3 domain server + last
service
pack aund all updates.

please help


"Sandy Miller" wrote:

Have a look at the previous post just below this thread.


--
MS Professional


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide complete details on how you installed the beta and migrated
data and
account settings.
Always create a new profile when you try an upgrade installation.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Sandy Miller com" miller(dot)sandy(at)gmaildot wrote in message
news Errr. OK, I realise this is a Beta. I understand it is a Beta 2.

I know things dont always work as they should and that I should not
'rely'
on Beta software of any kind.

However, I 'think' I am safe in assuming that Outlook 2007 Beta 2
should
be
able to receive my email and actually SHOW me the content....

I am concerned, I installed it, it runs (sort of OK), it appears to
do
what
it says it should, BUT, EVERY EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED IN Outlook 2007
Beta 2
since I installed it IS BROKEN. I CANNOT SEE ANY CONTENT IN ANY
EMAIL
RECEIVED.

They come into my inbox, but if you look at the space below you
will see
how
Outlook renders them....


































So I am worried - surely a BETA2 would actually show me the
email!!! I
cannot imagine MS sending this out to folks.....

How do I view my emails?


--
MS Professional





  #8  
Old May 26th 06, 12:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.installation
Sandy Miller com>
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 12
Default Outlook 2007 Beta 2 - BIG problems

Ha ha your funny. And lying through your teeth...

The point of these betas is to have monkeys like me do just that....

It still does not hide the fact that this beta is not operating as it should
on bog standard, fully patched, fully updated, FULLY FUNCTIONAL MS Office
2003 PC's. To me, that is a major faux pas.

MS are really losing it lately. Fortunately I rely on GMAIL these days as a
backup, for true MS supporter and afficionado like me, that is pretty
telling, dont you agree?

Anyway, you suggest I should create a new profile. OK Lets try that...

--
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"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Why not try what I suggested first?
I don't know of anyone who has been willing to sacrifice a production
version of Outlook by installing a beta over it. Accordingly, that scenario
has not been tested.
The first step to take whenever an in place "upgrade" has been performed is
to create a new Outlook profile from scratch.
Reversion to a previous version is also an untested scenario. Common sense
would suggest uninstalling Office 2007, Office 2003, then trying to
reinstall Office 2003. Hopefully, a reformat will not be required.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Sandy Miller com" miller(dot)sandy(at)gmaildot wrote in message
...
OK I'm prepared to swallow the fact that the emails I received in Outlook
2007 Beta 2 are screwed beyond repair. I accept I am stupid for expecting
MS
Outlook 2007 Beta 2 to enable me to, you know, read my emails, and, maybe
even reply to them.

I accept that it appears MS Outlook 2007 Beta 2 was not designed to do
that.

So if I uninstall it, do I get my Office 2003 back and the facility to
read
my email? Or have I made a big boo boo?

Did you do that? Did it work with just an uninstall?





--
MS Professional


"papaours" wrote:

Glad to see I'm not the only one, for mor info, I reverterd to Outlook
2003
and the mails that have been renderd empty are now totaly empy, even in
OWA.

my config was Outlook 2007 beta 2 french running on a brand new XP pro
workstation SP2 + all the updates with 1024 K of RAM , connected on an
exchange 2003 SP2 server running on Windows 2K3 domain server + last
service
pack aund all updates.

please help


"Sandy Miller" wrote:

Have a look at the previous post just below this thread.


--
MS Professional


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide complete details on how you installed the beta and migrated
data and
account settings.
Always create a new profile when you try an upgrade installation.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Sandy Miller com" miller(dot)sandy(at)gmaildot wrote in message
news Errr. OK, I realise this is a Beta. I understand it is a Beta 2.

I know things dont always work as they should and that I should not
'rely'
on Beta software of any kind.

However, I 'think' I am safe in assuming that Outlook 2007 Beta 2
should
be
able to receive my email and actually SHOW me the content....

I am concerned, I installed it, it runs (sort of OK), it appears to
do
what
it says it should, BUT, EVERY EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED IN Outlook 2007
Beta 2
since I installed it IS BROKEN. I CANNOT SEE ANY CONTENT IN ANY
EMAIL
RECEIVED.

They come into my inbox, but if you look at the space below you
will see
how
Outlook renders them....


































So I am worried - surely a BETA2 would actually show me the
email!!! I
cannot imagine MS sending this out to folks.....

How do I view my emails?


--
MS Professional






  #9  
Old May 26th 06, 01:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.installation
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 9,348
Default Outlook 2007 Beta 2 - BIG problems

Why not try what I suggested first?
I don't know of anyone who has been willing to sacrifice a production
version of Outlook by installing a beta over it. Accordingly, that scenario
has not been tested.
The first step to take whenever an in place "upgrade" has been performed is
to create a new Outlook profile from scratch.
Reversion to a previous version is also an untested scenario. Common sense
would suggest uninstalling Office 2007, Office 2003, then trying to
reinstall Office 2003. Hopefully, a reformat will not be required.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Sandy Miller com" miller(dot)sandy(at)gmaildot wrote in message
...
OK I'm prepared to swallow the fact that the emails I received in Outlook
2007 Beta 2 are screwed beyond repair. I accept I am stupid for expecting
MS
Outlook 2007 Beta 2 to enable me to, you know, read my emails, and, maybe
even reply to them.

I accept that it appears MS Outlook 2007 Beta 2 was not designed to do
that.

So if I uninstall it, do I get my Office 2003 back and the facility to
read
my email? Or have I made a big boo boo?

Did you do that? Did it work with just an uninstall?





--
MS Professional


"papaours" wrote:

Glad to see I'm not the only one, for mor info, I reverterd to Outlook
2003
and the mails that have been renderd empty are now totaly empy, even in
OWA.

my config was Outlook 2007 beta 2 french running on a brand new XP pro
workstation SP2 + all the updates with 1024 K of RAM , connected on an
exchange 2003 SP2 server running on Windows 2K3 domain server + last
service
pack aund all updates.

please help


"Sandy Miller" wrote:

Have a look at the previous post just below this thread.


--
MS Professional


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide complete details on how you installed the beta and migrated
data and
account settings.
Always create a new profile when you try an upgrade installation.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Sandy Miller com" miller(dot)sandy(at)gmaildot wrote in message
news Errr. OK, I realise this is a Beta. I understand it is a Beta 2.

I know things dont always work as they should and that I should not
'rely'
on Beta software of any kind.

However, I 'think' I am safe in assuming that Outlook 2007 Beta 2
should
be
able to receive my email and actually SHOW me the content....

I am concerned, I installed it, it runs (sort of OK), it appears to
do
what
it says it should, BUT, EVERY EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED IN Outlook 2007
Beta 2
since I installed it IS BROKEN. I CANNOT SEE ANY CONTENT IN ANY
EMAIL
RECEIVED.

They come into my inbox, but if you look at the space below you
will see
how
Outlook renders them....


































So I am worried - surely a BETA2 would actually show me the
email!!! I
cannot imagine MS sending this out to folks.....

How do I view my emails?


--
MS Professional





  #10  
Old May 26th 06, 01:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.installation
Sandy Miller com>
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 12
Default Outlook 2007 Beta 2 - BIG problems

Background. My laptop is a prety normal machine fully patched and fully up to
date with XP Pro and otherwise no problems. My version of Office was 2003
which was also fully patched and fully up to date and otherwise functioning
perfectly. i have three email accounts all using bog standard pop3 mailboxes
- which again I never had any problems with.

I installed Office 2007 B2 on my machine. I followed the suggested default
install routines allowing MS to do what hey think they needed to do to my
otherwise normal machine.

So now my Outlook 2007 B2 is reeiving mail but somehow is NOT RENDERING ANY
OF THEM. I CANNOT VIEW ANY EMAILS IN MY INBOX. IN FACT I CANNOT VIEW ANY
EMAILS PERIOD.

On suggestion here I created a new profile and reinstated my pop3 accounts
as before.

Guess what. Outlook 2007 B2 downloaded the whole contents of the relevant
mailboxes but has FAILED TO RENDER EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. I CANNOT VIEW
ANY EMAIL CONTENT WHATSOEVER. When I select and email all I get is white
space....

I have noticed a distinctive 'Report RENDER Problems..' button on the email
viewing pane. Am I to infer from this that MS know about this inability to
'render' the email problem? Am I to infer that they sent out a beta knowing
full well that it could not actually allow people to see their email? Am I to
infer that they are so cynical that would do that to my inbox without A FULL
PRIOR WARNING?

Mmmm, what am I to do now?

I know I will go back instead to using GMAIL, the only email contact I now
have since Office 2007 B2 fried my email so badly it has left it absolutely
useless.

Absolutely Shocking.

FYI, I know about betas, I was one of the first to use Office 2003 Beta,
which worked fine. Lately MS have really dropped their standards. This is
really bad show.

Now I need to figure if it is worth trying to save my hopefully backed up
data or I need to start from scratch.


--
MS Professional


"neo [mvp outlook]" wrote:

Sandy,

If you go back to Office/Outlook 2003, you will definitely need to delete
your mail profile. Reboot. Create a new mail profile.

As for the blank message(s), I am unable to duplicate when connecting to a
Microsoft Exchange 2003 (with Service Pack 2) on Windows 2003 (SP1). Just
so you know, Outlook 2007 B2 for me is running in cached mode and I tried
both connection types (RPC over HTTPS and TCP). What Russ really wanted to
know is what type of mail account is giving you an issue (POP3, IMAP,
Exchange) and what is the default delivery location. If it happens to be a
personal folders file (PST), is it the Outlook 97/2002 flavor or the newer
one.


Papaours,
Do you have any security products installed (antivirus, antispam, .etc) that
can scan e-mail? If you do, I always suggest uninstalling these products
and then retrying on a system that is nothing more than Operating System +
Beta product. After all, the point of running a beta product is to find out
where the break is so it can be reported back to the vendor.

"Sandy Miller com" miller(dot)sandy(at)gmaildot wrote in message
...
OK I'm prepared to swallow the fact that the emails I received in Outlook
2007 Beta 2 are screwed beyond repair. I accept I am stupid for expecting
MS
Outlook 2007 Beta 2 to enable me to, you know, read my emails, and, maybe
even reply to them.

I accept that it appears MS Outlook 2007 Beta 2 was not designed to do
that.

So if I uninstall it, do I get my Office 2003 back and the facility to
read
my email? Or have I made a big boo boo?

Did you do that? Did it work with just an uninstall?





--
MS Professional


"papaours" wrote:

Glad to see I'm not the only one, for mor info, I reverterd to Outlook
2003
and the mails that have been renderd empty are now totaly empy, even in
OWA.

my config was Outlook 2007 beta 2 french running on a brand new XP pro
workstation SP2 + all the updates with 1024 K of RAM , connected on an
exchange 2003 SP2 server running on Windows 2K3 domain server + last
service
pack aund all updates.

please help


"Sandy Miller" wrote:

Have a look at the previous post just below this thread.


--
MS Professional


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide complete details on how you installed the beta and migrated
data and
account settings.
Always create a new profile when you try an upgrade installation.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Sandy Miller com" miller(dot)sandy(at)gmaildot wrote in message
news Errr. OK, I realise this is a Beta. I understand it is a Beta 2.

I know things dont always work as they should and that I should not
'rely'
on Beta software of any kind.

However, I 'think' I am safe in assuming that Outlook 2007 Beta 2
should
be
able to receive my email and actually SHOW me the content....

I am concerned, I installed it, it runs (sort of OK), it appears to
do
what
it says it should, BUT, EVERY EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED IN Outlook 2007
Beta 2
since I installed it IS BROKEN. I CANNOT SEE ANY CONTENT IN ANY
EMAIL
RECEIVED.

They come into my inbox, but if you look at the space below you
will see
how
Outlook renders them....


































So I am worried - surely a BETA2 would actually show me the
email!!! I
cannot imagine MS sending this out to folks.....

How do I view my emails?


--
MS Professional






 




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