OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked OK, thinking
it would do something in the background. It completely tied up my PC to the
point that changing window views took about 30 seconds. I was busy with
another project so I clicked on the cancel button to stop the process.
After reading some of the questions in here, I now realize I probably
shouldn't have cancelled it.

Anyway, I'm now trying to find an E-mail receipt for some plane tickets and
I just realized my Inbox messages from 04/03/07 through 12/17/06, and from
12/16/06 through 7/6/06, are missing from my Inbox. I did a full backup 2-3
days ago. Is there a way to recover the messages that are missing? I've
read other responses to this type of question, but they appear to be for a
folder of messages that is missing. I'm just looking for certain messages.
Is the recovery process the same?

Regards,

Steve

OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It completely tied up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds.

Tip: Don't /touch/ the machine until compacting has finished.

Windows version? (Sounds like WinXP SP2)

Why it happens:

http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/probl...s.htm#mailgone
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovering the missing data: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx (#2 and #4)
and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069 (Notes section under
Resolution)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DBXpress (faster, more powerful, with even greater functionality)
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Avoiding Such Corruption in Futu

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and frequently
perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
automatically compacting your message store.

- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


DVD-Newbie wrote:
OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It completely tied up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds. I was
busy with another project so I clicked on the cancel button to stop the
process.
After reading some of the questions in here, I now realize I probably
shouldn't have cancelled it.

Anyway, I'm now trying to find an E-mail receipt for some plane tickets
and
I just realized my Inbox messages from 04/03/07 through 12/17/06, and from
12/16/06 through 7/6/06, are missing from my Inbox. I did a full backup
2-3
days ago. Is there a way to recover the messages that are missing? I've
read other responses to this type of question, but they appear to be for a
folder of messages that is missing. I'm just looking for certain
messages.
Is the recovery process the same?

Regards,

Steve

Thanks for the help, but it didn't recover my missing messages. I followed
the steps in: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx, but it only brought back
the date range of files I already have in my Inbox. Is there any other way
to recover my messages? When the compact runs, where does it put the
messages? Should I run the compact manually and see if the problem gets
fixed?

Regards,

Steve

"PA Bear" wrote:

OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It completely tied up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds.

Tip: Don't /touch/ the machine until compacting has finished.

Windows version? (Sounds like WinXP SP2)

Why it happens:

http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/probl...s.htm#mailgone
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovering the missing data: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx (#2 and #4)
and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069 (Notes section under
Resolution)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DBXpress (faster, more powerful, with even greater functionality)
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Avoiding Such Corruption in Futu

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and frequently
perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
automatically compacting your message store.

- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


DVD-Newbie wrote:
OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It completely tied up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds. I was
busy with another project so I clicked on the cancel button to stop the
process.
After reading some of the questions in here, I now realize I probably
shouldn't have cancelled it.

Anyway, I'm now trying to find an E-mail receipt for some plane tickets
and
I just realized my Inbox messages from 04/03/07 through 12/17/06, and from
12/16/06 through 7/6/06, are missing from my Inbox. I did a full backup
2-3
days ago. Is there a way to recover the messages that are missing? I've
read other responses to this type of question, but they appear to be for a
folder of messages that is missing. I'm just looking for certain
messages.
Is the recovery process the same?

Regards,

Steve

Are you running a fully patched XP/SP2? Any BAK files in the Recycle Bin?

Did you use DBXpress in Extract From Disk mode? That is the only program,
and feature of it, that will recover the messages after compacting.

The messages disappeared because you interrupted the compact process.
Compacting doesn't put them any place, it only reclaims wasted space.

Compacting again will not recover the messages.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the help, but it didn't recover my missing messages. I
followed
the steps in: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx, but it only brought
back
the date range of files I already have in my Inbox. Is there any other
way
to recover my messages? When the compact runs, where does it put the
messages? Should I run the compact manually and see if the problem gets
fixed?

Regards,

Steve

"PA Bear" wrote:

OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It completely tied
up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds.

Tip: Don't /touch/ the machine until compacting has finished.

Windows version? (Sounds like WinXP SP2)

Why it happens:

http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/probl...s.htm#mailgone

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovering the missing data: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx (#2 and
#4)
and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069 (Notes section under
Resolution)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DBXpress (faster, more powerful, with even greater functionality)
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Avoiding Such Corruption in Futu

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and frequently
perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More
at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
automatically compacting your message store.

- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause
such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


DVD-Newbie wrote:
OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It completely tied
up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds. I
was
busy with another project so I clicked on the cancel button to stop the
process.
After reading some of the questions in here, I now realize I probably
shouldn't have cancelled it.

Anyway, I'm now trying to find an E-mail receipt for some plane tickets
and
I just realized my Inbox messages from 04/03/07 through 12/17/06, and
from
12/16/06 through 7/6/06, are missing from my Inbox. I did a full
backup
2-3
days ago. Is there a way to recover the messages that are missing?
I've
read other responses to this type of question, but they appear to be
for a
folder of messages that is missing. I'm just looking for certain
messages.
Is the recovery process the same?

Regards,

Steve

Yes, I'm on XP/SP2. There are no .bak files in my recycle bin, as I have
CCleaner installed and it cleans my recycle bin at boot up. I didn't realize
my messages were missing when I shut down last night. No, I haven't
purchased DBXpress, but it sounds like I may need to, to get the messages.
Before I purchase it, are we fairly confident it will get the missing
messages?

Question...if I do a manual compact in the future, will the compact feature
remove messages from my Inbox as it did yesterday, or did this only happen
because I cancelled it?

Regards,

Steve


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Are you running a fully patched XP/SP2? Any BAK files in the Recycle Bin?

Did you use DBXpress in Extract From Disk mode? That is the only program,
and feature of it, that will recover the messages after compacting.

The messages disappeared because you interrupted the compact process.
Compacting doesn't put them any place, it only reclaims wasted space.

Compacting again will not recover the messages.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the help, but it didn't recover my missing messages. I
followed
the steps in: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx, but it only brought
back
the date range of files I already have in my Inbox. Is there any other
way
to recover my messages? When the compact runs, where does it put the
messages? Should I run the compact manually and see if the problem gets
fixed?

Regards,

Steve

"PA Bear" wrote:

OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It completely tied
up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds.

Tip: Don't /touch/ the machine until compacting has finished.

Windows version? (Sounds like WinXP SP2)

Why it happens:

http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/probl...s.htm#mailgone

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovering the missing data: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx (#2 and
#4)
and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069 (Notes section under
Resolution)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DBXpress (faster, more powerful, with even greater functionality)
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Avoiding Such Corruption in Futu

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and frequently
perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More
at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
automatically compacting your message store.

- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause
such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


DVD-Newbie wrote:
OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It completely tied
up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds. I
was
busy with another project so I clicked on the cancel button to stop the
process.
After reading some of the questions in here, I now realize I probably
shouldn't have cancelled it.

Anyway, I'm now trying to find an E-mail receipt for some plane tickets
and
I just realized my Inbox messages from 04/03/07 through 12/17/06, and
from
12/16/06 through 7/6/06, are missing from my Inbox. I did a full
backup
2-3
days ago. Is there a way to recover the messages that are missing?
I've
read other responses to this type of question, but they appear to be
for a
folder of messages that is missing. I'm just looking for certain
messages.
Is the recovery process the same?

Regards,

Steve

I use CCleaner myself, but as soon as the patch came out that saved a copy
of your files to the Recycle Bin, I unchecked the option to run at startup
and do it manually now.

DBXpress is the /only/ chance you have of retrieving the messages now. There
is never a guarantee, but in cases like yours, it has a very high success
rate.

Compacting will only remove messages if it is interrupted, or if your
folders are extremely large.

To avoid this in the futu

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move your
mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything until
the compacting is completed.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant layer
of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems such as
time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V program will
continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in background and
leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.

And backup often.

This freeware tool backs up everything in OE in seconds. Disregard what is
written in red. That is referring to a different program. If you had this
program yesterday, you could have got your messages back with a few mouse
clicks.

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB):
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
Yes, I'm on XP/SP2. There are no .bak files in my recycle bin, as I have
CCleaner installed and it cleans my recycle bin at boot up. I didn't
realize
my messages were missing when I shut down last night. No, I haven't
purchased DBXpress, but it sounds like I may need to, to get the messages.
Before I purchase it, are we fairly confident it will get the missing
messages?

Question...if I do a manual compact in the future, will the compact
feature
remove messages from my Inbox as it did yesterday, or did this only happen
because I cancelled it?

Regards,

Steve


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Are you running a fully patched XP/SP2? Any BAK files in the Recycle Bin?

Did you use DBXpress in Extract From Disk mode? That is the only program,
and feature of it, that will recover the messages after compacting.

The messages disappeared because you interrupted the compact process.
Compacting doesn't put them any place, it only reclaims wasted space.

Compacting again will not recover the messages.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the help, but it didn't recover my missing messages. I
followed
the steps in: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx, but it only brought
back
the date range of files I already have in my Inbox. Is there any other
way
to recover my messages? When the compact runs, where does it put the
messages? Should I run the compact manually and see if the problem
gets
fixed?

Regards,

Steve

"PA Bear" wrote:

OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It completely
tied
up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds.

Tip: Don't /touch/ the machine until compacting has finished.

Windows version? (Sounds like WinXP SP2)

Why it happens:

http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/probl...s.htm#mailgone

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovering the missing data: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx (#2 and
#4)
and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069 (Notes section under
Resolution)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DBXpress (faster, more powerful, with even greater functionality)
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Avoiding Such Corruption in Futu

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to
local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and frequently
perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline".
More
at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
automatically compacting your message store.

- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause
such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


DVD-Newbie wrote:
OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It completely
tied
up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds. I
was
busy with another project so I clicked on the cancel button to stop
the
process.
After reading some of the questions in here, I now realize I
probably
shouldn't have cancelled it.

Anyway, I'm now trying to find an E-mail receipt for some plane
tickets
and
I just realized my Inbox messages from 04/03/07 through 12/17/06,
and
from
12/16/06 through 7/6/06, are missing from my Inbox. I did a full
backup
2-3
days ago. Is there a way to recover the messages that are missing?
I've
read other responses to this type of question, but they appear to be
for a
folder of messages that is missing. I'm just looking for certain
messages.
Is the recovery process the same?

Regards,

Steve

IF the messages are gone from your machine(hard drive, recycle bin) and the location for those files has been written over you may not be able to recover anything even with the use of third party software.
You mentioned you did a full backup 2-3 days ago...If that pre-dates the compacting have you considered restoring the backup.
..winston

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message ...
: Yes, I'm on XP/SP2. There are no .bak files in my recycle bin, as I have
: CCleaner installed and it cleans my recycle bin at boot up. I didn't realize
: my messages were missing when I shut down last night. No, I haven't
: purchased DBXpress, but it sounds like I may need to, to get the messages.
: Before I purchase it, are we fairly confident it will get the missing
: messages?
:
: Question...if I do a manual compact in the future, will the compact feature
: remove messages from my Inbox as it did yesterday, or did this only happen
: because I cancelled it?
:
: Regards,
:
: Steve
:
:
: "Bruce Hagen" wrote:
:
: Are you running a fully patched XP/SP2? Any BAK files in the Recycle Bin?
:
: Did you use DBXpress in Extract From Disk mode? That is the only program,
: and feature of it, that will recover the messages after compacting.
:
: The messages disappeared because you interrupted the compact process.
: Compacting doesn't put them any place, it only reclaims wasted space.
:
: Compacting again will not recover the messages.
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS-MVP Outlook Express
: ~IB-CA~
:
: "DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
: ...
: Thanks for the help, but it didn't recover my missing messages. I
: followed
: the steps in: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx, but it only brought
: back
: the date range of files I already have in my Inbox. Is there any other
: way
: to recover my messages? When the compact runs, where does it put the
: messages? Should I run the compact manually and see if the problem gets
: fixed?
:
: Regards,
:
: Steve
:
: "PA Bear" wrote:
:
: OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked OK,
: thinking it would do something in the background. It completely tied
: up
: my
: PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds.
:
: Tip: Don't /touch/ the machine until compacting has finished.
:
: Windows version? (Sounds like WinXP SP2)
:
: Why it happens:
:
: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/probl...s.htm#mailgone
:
: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx
:
: Recovering the missing data: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx (#2 and
: #4)
: and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069 (Notes section under
: Resolution)
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: DBXpress (faster, more powerful, with even greater functionality)
: http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: Avoiding Such Corruption in Futu
:
: - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
: folders created for this purpose.
:
: - Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
:
: - Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and frequently
: perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More
: at
: http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
:
: - WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
: automatically compacting your message store.
:
: - Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause
: such
: corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
: --
: ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
: MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
: AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
:
:
: DVD-Newbie wrote:
: OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked OK,
: thinking it would do something in the background. It completely tied
: up
: my
: PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds. I
: was
: busy with another project so I clicked on the cancel button to stop the
: process.
: After reading some of the questions in here, I now realize I probably
: shouldn't have cancelled it.
:
: Anyway, I'm now trying to find an E-mail receipt for some plane tickets
: and
: I just realized my Inbox messages from 04/03/07 through 12/17/06, and
: from
: 12/16/06 through 7/6/06, are missing from my Inbox. I did a full
: backup
: 2-3
: days ago. Is there a way to recover the messages that are missing?
: I've
: read other responses to this type of question, but they appear to be
: for a
: folder of messages that is missing. I'm just looking for certain
: messages.
: Is the recovery process the same?
:
: Regards,
:
: Steve
:
:
:
:

The success of DBXpress depends on whether or not the disk clusters that
contained the messages have been overwritten or not. There is no way of
knowing that until one runs the program. As others have indicated, if you
have no backup, its the only chance you have.

steve

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
Yes, I'm on XP/SP2. There are no .bak files in my recycle bin, as I have
CCleaner installed and it cleans my recycle bin at boot up. I didn't
realize
my messages were missing when I shut down last night. No, I haven't
purchased DBXpress, but it sounds like I may need to, to get the messages.
Before I purchase it, are we fairly confident it will get the missing
messages?

Question...if I do a manual compact in the future, will the compact
feature
remove messages from my Inbox as it did yesterday, or did this only happen
because I cancelled it?

Regards,

Steve


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Are you running a fully patched XP/SP2? Any BAK files in the Recycle Bin?

Did you use DBXpress in Extract From Disk mode? That is the only program,
and feature of it, that will recover the messages after compacting.

The messages disappeared because you interrupted the compact process.
Compacting doesn't put them any place, it only reclaims wasted space.

Compacting again will not recover the messages.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the help, but it didn't recover my missing messages. I
followed
the steps in: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx, but it only brought
back
the date range of files I already have in my Inbox. Is there any other
way
to recover my messages? When the compact runs, where does it put the
messages? Should I run the compact manually and see if the problem
gets
fixed?

Regards,

Steve

"PA Bear" wrote:

OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It completely
tied
up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds.

Tip: Don't /touch/ the machine until compacting has finished.

Windows version? (Sounds like WinXP SP2)

Why it happens:

http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/probl...s.htm#mailgone

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovering the missing data: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx (#2 and
#4)
and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069 (Notes section under
Resolution)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DBXpress (faster, more powerful, with even greater functionality)
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Avoiding Such Corruption in Futu

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to
local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and frequently
perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline".
More
at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
automatically compacting your message store.

- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause
such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


DVD-Newbie wrote:
OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It completely
tied
up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds. I
was
busy with another project so I clicked on the cancel button to stop
the
process.
After reading some of the questions in here, I now realize I
probably
shouldn't have cancelled it.

Anyway, I'm now trying to find an E-mail receipt for some plane
tickets
and
I just realized my Inbox messages from 04/03/07 through 12/17/06,
and
from
12/16/06 through 7/6/06, are missing from my Inbox. I did a full
backup
2-3
days ago. Is there a way to recover the messages that are missing?
I've
read other responses to this type of question, but they appear to be
for a
folder of messages that is missing. I'm just looking for certain
messages.
Is the recovery process the same?

Regards,

Steve

The DBXpress worked and I have put the missing messages back into my Inbox.
Thanks for everyone's assistance.

I also realized during this, that my backup procedure is flawed so I'm going
to go work on that now.

Regards,

Steve


"Steve Cochran" wrote:

The success of DBXpress depends on whether or not the disk clusters that
contained the messages have been overwritten or not. There is no way of
knowing that until one runs the program. As others have indicated, if you
have no backup, its the only chance you have.

steve

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
Yes, I'm on XP/SP2. There are no .bak files in my recycle bin, as I have
CCleaner installed and it cleans my recycle bin at boot up. I didn't
realize
my messages were missing when I shut down last night. No, I haven't
purchased DBXpress, but it sounds like I may need to, to get the messages.
Before I purchase it, are we fairly confident it will get the missing
messages?

Question...if I do a manual compact in the future, will the compact
feature
remove messages from my Inbox as it did yesterday, or did this only happen
because I cancelled it?

Regards,

Steve


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Are you running a fully patched XP/SP2? Any BAK files in the Recycle Bin?

Did you use DBXpress in Extract From Disk mode? That is the only program,
and feature of it, that will recover the messages after compacting.

The messages disappeared because you interrupted the compact process.
Compacting doesn't put them any place, it only reclaims wasted space.

Compacting again will not recover the messages.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the help, but it didn't recover my missing messages. I
followed
the steps in: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx, but it only brought
back
the date range of files I already have in my Inbox. Is there any other
way
to recover my messages? When the compact runs, where does it put the
messages? Should I run the compact manually and see if the problem
gets
fixed?

Regards,

Steve

"PA Bear" wrote:

OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It completely
tied
up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds.

Tip: Don't /touch/ the machine until compacting has finished.

Windows version? (Sounds like WinXP SP2)

Why it happens:

http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/probl...s.htm#mailgone

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovering the missing data: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx (#2 and
#4)
and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069 (Notes section under
Resolution)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DBXpress (faster, more powerful, with even greater functionality)
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Avoiding Such Corruption in Futu

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to
local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and frequently
perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline".
More
at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
automatically compacting your message store.

- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause
such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


DVD-Newbie wrote:
OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It completely
tied
up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds. I
was
busy with another project so I clicked on the cancel button to stop
the
process.
After reading some of the questions in here, I now realize I
probably
shouldn't have cancelled it.

Anyway, I'm now trying to find an E-mail receipt for some plane
tickets
and
I just realized my Inbox messages from 04/03/07 through 12/17/06,
and
from
12/16/06 through 7/6/06, are missing from my Inbox. I did a full
backup
2-3
days ago. Is there a way to recover the messages that are missing?
I've
read other responses to this type of question, but they appear to be
for a
folder of messages that is missing. I'm just looking for certain
messages.
Is the recovery process the same?

Regards,

Steve

Repost:

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and frequently
perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
automatically compacting your message store.

- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.

You may want to reconsider having CCleaner empty Recycle Bin at boot.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org

DVD-Newbie wrote:
The DBXpress worked and I have put the missing messages back into my
Inbox.
Thanks for everyone's assistance.

I also realized during this, that my backup procedure is flawed so I'm
going
to go work on that now.

Regards,

Steve


"Steve Cochran" wrote:

The success of DBXpress depends on whether or not the disk clusters that
contained the messages have been overwritten or not. There is no way of
knowing that until one runs the program. As others have indicated, if
you
have no backup, its the only chance you have.

steve

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
Yes, I'm on XP/SP2. There are no .bak files in my recycle bin, as I
have
CCleaner installed and it cleans my recycle bin at boot up. I didn't
realize
my messages were missing when I shut down last night. No, I haven't
purchased DBXpress, but it sounds like I may need to, to get the
messages.
Before I purchase it, are we fairly confident it will get the missing
messages?

Question...if I do a manual compact in the future, will the compact
feature
remove messages from my Inbox as it did yesterday, or did this only
happen
because I cancelled it?

Regards,

Steve


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Are you running a fully patched XP/SP2? Any BAK files in the Recycle
Bin?

Did you use DBXpress in Extract From Disk mode? That is the only
program,
and feature of it, that will recover the messages after compacting.

The messages disappeared because you interrupted the compact process.
Compacting doesn't put them any place, it only reclaims wasted space.

Compacting again will not recover the messages.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the help, but it didn't recover my missing messages. I
followed
the steps in: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx, but it only brought
back
the date range of files I already have in my Inbox. Is there any
other
way
to recover my messages? When the compact runs, where does it put the
messages? Should I run the compact manually and see if the problem
gets
fixed?

Regards,

Steve

"PA Bear" wrote:

OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It completely
tied
up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds.

Tip: Don't /touch/ the machine until compacting has finished.

Windows version? (Sounds like WinXP SP2)

Why it happens:

http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/probl...s.htm#mailgone

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovering the missing data: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx (#2
and
#4)
and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069 (Notes section under
Resolution)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DBXpress (faster, more powerful, with even greater functionality)
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Avoiding Such Corruption in Futu

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to
local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and frequently
perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline".
More
at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
automatically compacting your message store.

- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause
such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


DVD-Newbie wrote:
OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It completely
tied
up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds. I
was
busy with another project so I clicked on the cancel button to stop
the
process.
After reading some of the questions in here, I now realize I
probably
shouldn't have cancelled it.

Anyway, I'm now trying to find an E-mail receipt for some plane
tickets
and
I just realized my Inbox messages from 04/03/07 through 12/17/06,
and
from
12/16/06 through 7/6/06, are missing from my Inbox. I did a full
backup
2-3
days ago. Is there a way to recover the messages that are missing?
I've
read other responses to this type of question, but they appear to be
for a
folder of messages that is missing. I'm just looking for certain
messages.
Is the recovery process the same?

Regards,

Steve