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Old April 6th 07, 01:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Steve Cochran
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Posts: 2,353
Default Files missing after compact

Glad to hear it.

Whenever you back something up to CD, ALWAYS set it to verify the written
data so you are ensured that the backup was valid.

You might also consider getting my OETool program that works in conjunction
with OEQB to backup with a single button click with 3 layers of redundancy.
See www.oehelp.com/OETool/

Both of those programs are free.

steve

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
The DBXpress worked and I have put the missing messages back into my
Inbox.
Thanks for everyone's assistance.

I also realized during this, that my backup procedure is flawed so I'm
going
to go work on that now.

Regards,

Steve


"Steve Cochran" wrote:

The success of DBXpress depends on whether or not the disk clusters that
contained the messages have been overwritten or not. There is no way of
knowing that until one runs the program. As others have indicated, if
you
have no backup, its the only chance you have.

steve

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
Yes, I'm on XP/SP2. There are no .bak files in my recycle bin, as I
have
CCleaner installed and it cleans my recycle bin at boot up. I didn't
realize
my messages were missing when I shut down last night. No, I haven't
purchased DBXpress, but it sounds like I may need to, to get the
messages.
Before I purchase it, are we fairly confident it will get the missing
messages?

Question...if I do a manual compact in the future, will the compact
feature
remove messages from my Inbox as it did yesterday, or did this only
happen
because I cancelled it?

Regards,

Steve


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Are you running a fully patched XP/SP2? Any BAK files in the Recycle
Bin?

Did you use DBXpress in Extract From Disk mode? That is the only
program,
and feature of it, that will recover the messages after compacting.

The messages disappeared because you interrupted the compact process.
Compacting doesn't put them any place, it only reclaims wasted space.

Compacting again will not recover the messages.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the help, but it didn't recover my missing messages. I
followed
the steps in: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx, but it only
brought
back
the date range of files I already have in my Inbox. Is there any
other
way
to recover my messages? When the compact runs, where does it put
the
messages? Should I run the compact manually and see if the problem
gets
fixed?

Regards,

Steve

"PA Bear" wrote:

OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked
OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It completely
tied
up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds.

Tip: Don't /touch/ the machine until compacting has finished.

Windows version? (Sounds like WinXP SP2)

Why it happens:

http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/probl...s.htm#mailgone

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovering the missing data: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx (#2
and
#4)
and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069 (Notes section under
Resolution)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DBXpress (faster, more powerful, with even greater functionality)
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Avoiding Such Corruption in Futu

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to
local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and
frequently
perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline".
More
at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
automatically compacting your message store.

- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also
cause
such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


DVD-Newbie wrote:
OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked
OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It completely
tied
up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds.
I
was
busy with another project so I clicked on the cancel button to
stop
the
process.
After reading some of the questions in here, I now realize I
probably
shouldn't have cancelled it.

Anyway, I'm now trying to find an E-mail receipt for some plane
tickets
and
I just realized my Inbox messages from 04/03/07 through 12/17/06,
and
from
12/16/06 through 7/6/06, are missing from my Inbox. I did a full
backup
2-3
days ago. Is there a way to recover the messages that are
missing?
I've
read other responses to this type of question, but they appear to
be
for a
folder of messages that is missing. I'm just looking for certain
messages.
Is the recovery process the same?

Regards,

Steve






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  #12  
Old April 6th 07, 04:06 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
DVD-Newbie
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Posts: 9
Default Files missing after compact

Thanks for the link. I like free software. I'll check it out.

Please define the process of storing my messages from my Inbox and Sent to
"local" folders. I've made folders in OE. Are these "local folders"?

Regards,

Steve


"Steve Cochran" wrote:

Glad to hear it.

Whenever you back something up to CD, ALWAYS set it to verify the written
data so you are ensured that the backup was valid.

You might also consider getting my OETool program that works in conjunction
with OEQB to backup with a single button click with 3 layers of redundancy.
See www.oehelp.com/OETool/

Both of those programs are free.

steve

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
The DBXpress worked and I have put the missing messages back into my
Inbox.
Thanks for everyone's assistance.

I also realized during this, that my backup procedure is flawed so I'm
going
to go work on that now.

Regards,

Steve


"Steve Cochran" wrote:

The success of DBXpress depends on whether or not the disk clusters that
contained the messages have been overwritten or not. There is no way of
knowing that until one runs the program. As others have indicated, if
you
have no backup, its the only chance you have.

steve

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
Yes, I'm on XP/SP2. There are no .bak files in my recycle bin, as I
have
CCleaner installed and it cleans my recycle bin at boot up. I didn't
realize
my messages were missing when I shut down last night. No, I haven't
purchased DBXpress, but it sounds like I may need to, to get the
messages.
Before I purchase it, are we fairly confident it will get the missing
messages?

Question...if I do a manual compact in the future, will the compact
feature
remove messages from my Inbox as it did yesterday, or did this only
happen
because I cancelled it?

Regards,

Steve


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Are you running a fully patched XP/SP2? Any BAK files in the Recycle
Bin?

Did you use DBXpress in Extract From Disk mode? That is the only
program,
and feature of it, that will recover the messages after compacting.

The messages disappeared because you interrupted the compact process.
Compacting doesn't put them any place, it only reclaims wasted space.

Compacting again will not recover the messages.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the help, but it didn't recover my missing messages. I
followed
the steps in: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx, but it only
brought
back
the date range of files I already have in my Inbox. Is there any
other
way
to recover my messages? When the compact runs, where does it put
the
messages? Should I run the compact manually and see if the problem
gets
fixed?

Regards,

Steve

"PA Bear" wrote:

OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked
OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It completely
tied
up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds.

Tip: Don't /touch/ the machine until compacting has finished.

Windows version? (Sounds like WinXP SP2)

Why it happens:

http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/probl...s.htm#mailgone

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovering the missing data: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx (#2
and
#4)
and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069 (Notes section under
Resolution)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DBXpress (faster, more powerful, with even greater functionality)
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Avoiding Such Corruption in Futu

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to
local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and
frequently
perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline".
More
at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
automatically compacting your message store.

- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also
cause
such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


DVD-Newbie wrote:
OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I clicked
OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It completely
tied
up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 seconds.
I
was
busy with another project so I clicked on the cancel button to
stop
the
process.
After reading some of the questions in here, I now realize I
probably
shouldn't have cancelled it.

Anyway, I'm now trying to find an E-mail receipt for some plane
tickets
and
I just realized my Inbox messages from 04/03/07 through 12/17/06,
and
from
12/16/06 through 7/6/06, are missing from my Inbox. I did a full
backup
2-3
days ago. Is there a way to recover the messages that are
missing?
I've
read other responses to this type of question, but they appear to
be
for a
folder of messages that is missing. I'm just looking for certain
messages.
Is the recovery process the same?

Regards,

Steve






  #13  
Old April 6th 07, 11:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Steve Cochran
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,353
Default Files missing after compact

Every folder except those for newsgroups is a local folder.

steve

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
news
Thanks for the link. I like free software. I'll check it out.

Please define the process of storing my messages from my Inbox and Sent to
"local" folders. I've made folders in OE. Are these "local folders"?

Regards,

Steve


"Steve Cochran" wrote:

Glad to hear it.

Whenever you back something up to CD, ALWAYS set it to verify the written
data so you are ensured that the backup was valid.

You might also consider getting my OETool program that works in
conjunction
with OEQB to backup with a single button click with 3 layers of
redundancy.
See www.oehelp.com/OETool/

Both of those programs are free.

steve

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
The DBXpress worked and I have put the missing messages back into my
Inbox.
Thanks for everyone's assistance.

I also realized during this, that my backup procedure is flawed so I'm
going
to go work on that now.

Regards,

Steve


"Steve Cochran" wrote:

The success of DBXpress depends on whether or not the disk clusters
that
contained the messages have been overwritten or not. There is no way
of
knowing that until one runs the program. As others have indicated, if
you
have no backup, its the only chance you have.

steve

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
Yes, I'm on XP/SP2. There are no .bak files in my recycle bin, as I
have
CCleaner installed and it cleans my recycle bin at boot up. I
didn't
realize
my messages were missing when I shut down last night. No, I haven't
purchased DBXpress, but it sounds like I may need to, to get the
messages.
Before I purchase it, are we fairly confident it will get the
missing
messages?

Question...if I do a manual compact in the future, will the compact
feature
remove messages from my Inbox as it did yesterday, or did this only
happen
because I cancelled it?

Regards,

Steve


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Are you running a fully patched XP/SP2? Any BAK files in the
Recycle
Bin?

Did you use DBXpress in Extract From Disk mode? That is the only
program,
and feature of it, that will recover the messages after compacting.

The messages disappeared because you interrupted the compact
process.
Compacting doesn't put them any place, it only reclaims wasted
space.

Compacting again will not recover the messages.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the help, but it didn't recover my missing messages.
I
followed
the steps in: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx, but it only
brought
back
the date range of files I already have in my Inbox. Is there any
other
way
to recover my messages? When the compact runs, where does it put
the
messages? Should I run the compact manually and see if the
problem
gets
fixed?

Regards,

Steve

"PA Bear" wrote:

OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I
clicked
OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It
completely
tied
up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30
seconds.

Tip: Don't /touch/ the machine until compacting has finished.

Windows version? (Sounds like WinXP SP2)

Why it happens:

http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/probl...s.htm#mailgone

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovering the missing data: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx
(#2
and
#4)
and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069 (Notes section
under
Resolution)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DBXpress (faster, more powerful, with even greater
functionality)
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Avoiding Such Corruption in Futu

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them
to
local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and
frequently
perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline".
More
at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
automatically compacting your message store.

- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also
cause
such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


DVD-Newbie wrote:
OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I
clicked
OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It
completely
tied
up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30
seconds.
I
was
busy with another project so I clicked on the cancel button to
stop
the
process.
After reading some of the questions in here, I now realize I
probably
shouldn't have cancelled it.

Anyway, I'm now trying to find an E-mail receipt for some
plane
tickets
and
I just realized my Inbox messages from 04/03/07 through
12/17/06,
and
from
12/16/06 through 7/6/06, are missing from my Inbox. I did a
full
backup
2-3
days ago. Is there a way to recover the messages that are
missing?
I've
read other responses to this type of question, but they appear
to
be
for a
folder of messages that is missing. I'm just looking for
certain
messages.
Is the recovery process the same?

Regards,

Steve







  #14  
Old April 11th 07, 09:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
i_takeuti
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 393
Default Files missing after compact


"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
news
Thanks for the link. I like free software. I'll check it out.

Please define the process of storing my messages from my Inbox and Sent to
"local" folders. I've made folders in OE. Are these "local folders"?

Regards,

Steve


"Steve Cochran" wrote:

Glad to hear it.

Whenever you back something up to CD, ALWAYS set it to verify the written
data so you are ensured that the backup was valid.

You might also consider getting my OETool program that works in
conjunction
with OEQB to backup with a single button click with 3 layers of
redundancy.
See www.oehelp.com/OETool/

Both of those programs are free.

steve

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
The DBXpress worked and I have put the missing messages back into my
Inbox.
Thanks for everyone's assistance.

I also realized during this, that my backup procedure is flawed so I'm
going
to go work on that now.

Regards,

Steve


"Steve Cochran" wrote:

The success of DBXpress depends on whether or not the disk clusters
that
contained the messages have been overwritten or not. There is no way
of
knowing that until one runs the program. As others have indicated, if
you
have no backup, its the only chance you have.

steve

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
Yes, I'm on XP/SP2. There are no .bak files in my recycle bin, as I
have
CCleaner installed and it cleans my recycle bin at boot up. I
didn't
realize
my messages were missing when I shut down last night. No, I haven't
purchased DBXpress, but it sounds like I may need to, to get the
messages.
Before I purchase it, are we fairly confident it will get the
missing
messages?

Question...if I do a manual compact in the future, will the compact
feature
remove messages from my Inbox as it did yesterday, or did this only
happen
because I cancelled it?

Regards,

Steve


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Are you running a fully patched XP/SP2? Any BAK files in the
Recycle
Bin?

Did you use DBXpress in Extract From Disk mode? That is the only
program,
and feature of it, that will recover the messages after compacting.

The messages disappeared because you interrupted the compact
process.
Compacting doesn't put them any place, it only reclaims wasted
space.

Compacting again will not recover the messages.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"DVD-Newbie" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the help, but it didn't recover my missing messages.
I
followed
the steps in: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx, but it only
brought
back
the date range of files I already have in my Inbox. Is there any
other
way
to recover my messages? When the compact runs, where does it put
the
messages? Should I run the compact manually and see if the
problem
gets
fixed?

Regards,

Steve

"PA Bear" wrote:

OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I
clicked
OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It
completely
tied
up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30
seconds.

Tip: Don't /touch/ the machine until compacting has finished.

Windows version? (Sounds like WinXP SP2)

Why it happens:

http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/probl...s.htm#mailgone

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovering the missing data: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx
(#2
and
#4)
and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069 (Notes section
under
Resolution)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DBXpress (faster, more powerful, with even greater
functionality)
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Avoiding Such Corruption in Futu

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them
to
local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and
frequently
perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline".
More
at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
automatically compacting your message store.

- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also
cause
such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


DVD-Newbie wrote:
OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I
clicked
OK,
thinking it would do something in the background. It
completely
tied
up
my
PC to the point that changing window views took about 30
seconds.
I
was
busy with another project so I clicked on the cancel button to
stop
the
process.
After reading some of the questions in here, I now realize I
probably
shouldn't have cancelled it.

Anyway, I'm now trying to find an E-mail receipt for some
plane
tickets
and
I just realized my Inbox messages from 04/03/07 through
12/17/06,
and
from
12/16/06 through 7/6/06, are missing from my Inbox. I did a
full
backup
2-3
days ago. Is there a way to recover the messages that are
missing?
I've
read other responses to this type of question, but they appear
to
be
for a
folder of messages that is missing. I'm just looking for
certain
messages.
Is the recovery process the same?

Regards,

Steve







 




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