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You never use export and import to transfer Outlook data. You simply copy
the data file and open it in the other installation. Correct methods for data transfer are posted here frequently. Take a look at these pages for info on Outlook data backup or transfer: http://www.slipstick.com/config/backup.htm http://www.howto-outlook.com/Howto/backupandrestore.htm http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/as...771141033.aspx -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Dennis" wrote in message ... Thanks again for the information Russ. Sorry for all the back and forth. I have one final question, you mention export/import is not the best way to do an upgrade. What is? Just open the old pst and drag a copy of Contacts? Same question moving Calendar data from an old version to a new - I've often lost the recurrence field (yearly only occurs once). Dennis "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I don't know of any good solution to this, nor any third party software that can achieve what you want. You're exactly right that Contacts created in earlier versions may not behave the same way as Contacts created in the current version. Each version of Outlook handles its PST files and data somewhat differently, but those differences are not documented. It's also easy to migrate data from one version to another improperly (like by exporting and importing) which only compounds the problem. Because how PST files work is proprietary information, it has been difficult for third party developers to come up with solutions to these problems. I don't keep up with third party offerings, but there are some pretty bright people out there working on these things, so it never hurts to search, or maybe someone else know of something that might help. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Dennis" wrote in message ... "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I think you need to look for a better way to create the view you want. Business Cards isn't a very good view to do what you want if it forces you to sort on a field that is null for many of your Contacts, especially if those Contacts were created in different versions of Outlook. Why not use the By Company view to group your contacts, then sort each group the way you want? That should work. The preferences I was referring to are the settings you chose for derived fields like File As... and Full Name... Many people sort on those fields only to discover that those fields are not consistent because the Contacts were created under different conditions or in different versions. I was afraid you might have been trying to sort on views that weren't consistent and were trying to change them with your settings. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Dennis" wrote in message news ![]() Thank you for your quick response. I'm not sure what you mean by "Preferences will not be applied to existing contacts only to new". Here's more detail: I have all of my contacts in one folder. I prefer not to have business contacts and personal contacts in subfolders. Everything works quite well, my Sort order is Company name and then Last Name, First Name. This way, all personal contacts are seggregated above the 123 tab, all business contacts are broken down to each tab letter and are easy to navigate to. This way personal contacts are not intermixed with business contacts. The problem I'm experiencing is that the personal contacts are sorted in two groups. The first is my old contacts and the second are any new contacts (that is those that I create now). I would prefer to continue to organize all contacts this way but am open to suggestions if there is no way to have all contacts where Company is blank grouped together. I would also appreciate knowing why preferences are not applied to all contacts not just new. Is there a way to import (or by moving) to make all old contacts be treated as new contacts? Thanks for your time. Dennis "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Preferences will not be applied to existing Contacts. Only to those you create. Why would you choose to sort by a field that is null? Makes no sense. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Dennis" wrote in message ... In upgrading to a new machine and installing Outlook 2007, contacts are not being sorted correctly. When View=Current View=Business Cards then all Company (field is filled in) contacts are sorted correctly (Set up to sort by Company then by Last Name). BUT personal contacts (where Company field is blank), old contacts (brought in by a COPY from previous PST) appear first while New contacts (added now) appear below the last old personal contact. When looking at contacts in the View=Current View=by Company, Outlook shows two groups of Company ![]() contacts while the second are the newly added contacts. Does anyone know of a way to group the contacts where Company is none? I have tried export/import, deleting and moving back all to no avail. Thank you Russ, Thanks again for your response. The Business Card View is the best one for the way we use Outlook – more than 95% of the contacts or more are have company name, there are a small percentage which are personal and do not have a company. The other reason for using Business Cards is that all business contacts are sorted nicely and available via tabs on the right hand side and personal contacts are above the 123 tab. The business contacts are all sorted properly by business name and sorted by last name. This makes it very easy to navigate to. The By Company view is only a listing with no tabs so is unusable (and by the way there are still two groups where company is “none”). The key issue is the one you raised where personal contacts do not have a company (blank field) and the sort groups those contacts into two “none” groups (can be seen on By Company view as well).If they were sorted into one, then all would be fine. The problem you mention is that contacts created with earlier versions of Outlook must have hidden data that causes 2007 (2003 did the same) to sort into two different categories, both called none. If there was way around this, then everything would be perfect. I could enter Company as “1” but that’s a lot of editing and doesn’t display well. It appears the only way is to retype all of the information, and unfortunately there is a lot of data from over the years. Is there not some program or utility that can upgrade contacts that were entered using older versions of Outlook to the current version that would prevent this from happening? I’ve run the repair utility but that didn’t fix it. In my way of thinking a “blank field” is a valid sort (and it does work other than old contacts are in a separate group). Any further suggestions are welcomed. Thanks. Dennis |
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