I have a question realted to this subject: I DON'T use auto-dialling and just
want to use my Outlook 2002 Contacts folder to display telephone numbers in
the format of my own choice. I've read the articles Jocelyn refers to; but
I'd like to display the numbers in a + xxx yyy zzz zzzz format (where
x=international dialling code, y=STD or area code WITHOUT any preceding "0"
or "9", and z=local number). I specifically DO want to place a space between
the "+" sign and the "xxx" code and I don't want to allow Outlook to
automatically place parenthesis (brackets) around ANY STD/area code ("yyy")
numbers. Up to Outlook 2000, I could enter the data in the Outlook teleohone
number fields as I wished, but increasingly I can't get past the automatic
formatting rules applied by Outlook. Can it be done please? Thanks.

"Jocelyn Fiorello [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

Have you seen this article, which was linked from the previous article I
mentioned?

http://www.slipstick.com/config/ukbignumber.htm

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

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"DPP" wrote:

Jocelyn,

Thank you for the reference page which had a great deal of helpful
information. However, it doesn't seem to answer the simple question of "How
should I enter telephone numbers into Outlook?" or at least I couldn't figure
it out based on the information provided. (Sadly Microsoft seems not to have
this simple info posted anywhere either)

I live in the UK, have primarily US and UK contacts, with a few other
international ones. This question is increasedly more important now that I
have switched (excitedly) to a Windows enabled phone which will synchronise
contacts with Outlook and travel internationally for work. The question is
further complicated by the zero prefix (in the UK) for landlines or mobile
numbers.

I would like to be able to know the format in which to enter (or
begrudgingly edit) contacts so that it will be done once and for all and I
can use them with the mobile when traveling.

Any further suggestions?

Many thanks in advance for the advice.

"Jocelyn Fiorello [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

See if the information at http://www.slipstick.com/config/olphone.htm helps
you to troubleshoot this issue.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


"Christine" wrote:

When Outlook adds the International dialling code +44 to UK phone numbers, it
does not remove the zero from the STD (area) code. This makes the number
invalid so it cannot be used for dialling. How do I fix this? It also
applies to other European numbers.

I do this all the time in OL2003. Just type the number exactly as you want
it formatted, into the text field on the contact form. DON'T enter it by
clicking on the name of the field (e.g. "Home"), and even when it's in there
don't click "OK" if you invoke the number details box by either clicking the
field name or by double clicking the number itself. Instead always click
"Cancel".

HTH

Mark

"mytilini" wrote in message
...
I have a question realted to this subject: I DON'T use auto-dialling and
just
want to use my Outlook 2002 Contacts folder to display telephone numbers
in
the format of my own choice. I've read the articles Jocelyn refers to;
but
I'd like to display the numbers in a + xxx yyy zzz zzzz format (where
x=international dialling code, y=STD or area code WITHOUT any preceding
"0"
or "9", and z=local number). I specifically DO want to place a space
between
the "+" sign and the "xxx" code and I don't want to allow Outlook to
automatically place parenthesis (brackets) around ANY STD/area code
("yyy")
numbers. Up to Outlook 2000, I could enter the data in the Outlook
teleohone
number fields as I wished, but increasingly I can't get past the automatic
formatting rules applied by Outlook. Can it be done please? Thanks.

"Jocelyn Fiorello [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

Have you seen this article, which was linked from the previous article I
mentioned?

http://www.slipstick.com/config/ukbignumber.htm

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


"DPP" wrote:

Jocelyn,

Thank you for the reference page which had a great deal of helpful
information. However, it doesn't seem to answer the simple question of
"How
should I enter telephone numbers into Outlook?" or at least I couldn't
figure
it out based on the information provided. (Sadly Microsoft seems not to
have
this simple info posted anywhere either)

I live in the UK, have primarily US and UK contacts, with a few other
international ones. This question is increasedly more important now
that I
have switched (excitedly) to a Windows enabled phone which will
synchronise
contacts with Outlook and travel internationally for work. The question
is
further complicated by the zero prefix (in the UK) for landlines or
mobile
numbers.

I would like to be able to know the format in which to enter (or
begrudgingly edit) contacts so that it will be done once and for all
and I
can use them with the mobile when traveling.

Any further suggestions?

Many thanks in advance for the advice.

"Jocelyn Fiorello [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

See if the information at http://www.slipstick.com/config/olphone.htm
helps
you to troubleshoot this issue.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


"Christine" wrote:

When Outlook adds the International dialling code +44 to UK phone
numbers, it
does not remove the zero from the STD (area) code. This makes the
number
invalid so it cannot be used for dialling. How do I fix this? It
also
applies to other European numbers.

Hi Mark - thanks for this. I've tried entering data in the way you
suggested, via both the "Detailed Address Cards" & "Phone Lst" views within
my Outlook 2002 Contacts folder. Whilst that allows me to lose the
parenthesis, any hyphens and basically put in ANY free format numerals &
punctuation in the format I want, I still cannot do this by preceding the
number with the keystokes "+[Spacebar]"; as soon as I do that, the auto
formatting takes over e.g. I can store "1 776 654-9876", but I can't seem to
store "+ 1 776 654-9876"....do you have the same problem? I've also tried to
disassociate a number from a country, but that seems to be impossible to do -
Outlook will always invoke your default country setting's International
Direct Dialling code if you try to do that. Any further experiences would be
most helpful; as I said, you seem to be able to format as you want with all
earlier version of Outlook pre-2000, but MS seems to not allow you to use the
telephone number fields as a free-format simple data storage device any
more....frustrating!! Thanks mytilini.

"Mark R Penn" wrote:

I do this all the time in OL2003. Just type the number exactly as you want
it formatted, into the text field on the contact form. DON'T enter it by
clicking on the name of the field (e.g. "Home"), and even when it's in there
don't click "OK" if you invoke the number details box by either clicking the
field name or by double clicking the number itself. Instead always click
"Cancel".

HTH

Mark

"mytilini" wrote in message
...
I have a question realted to this subject: I DON'T use auto-dialling and
just
want to use my Outlook 2002 Contacts folder to display telephone numbers
in
the format of my own choice. I've read the articles Jocelyn refers to;
but
I'd like to display the numbers in a + xxx yyy zzz zzzz format (where
x=international dialling code, y=STD or area code WITHOUT any preceding
"0"
or "9", and z=local number). I specifically DO want to place a space
between
the "+" sign and the "xxx" code and I don't want to allow Outlook to
automatically place parenthesis (brackets) around ANY STD/area code
("yyy")
numbers. Up to Outlook 2000, I could enter the data in the Outlook
teleohone
number fields as I wished, but increasingly I can't get past the automatic
formatting rules applied by Outlook. Can it be done please? Thanks.

"Jocelyn Fiorello [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

Have you seen this article, which was linked from the previous article I
mentioned?

http://www.slipstick.com/config/ukbignumber.htm

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


"DPP" wrote:

Jocelyn,

Thank you for the reference page which had a great deal of helpful
information. However, it doesn't seem to answer the simple question of
"How
should I enter telephone numbers into Outlook?" or at least I couldn't
figure
it out based on the information provided. (Sadly Microsoft seems not to
have
this simple info posted anywhere either)

I live in the UK, have primarily US and UK contacts, with a few other
international ones. This question is increasedly more important now
that I
have switched (excitedly) to a Windows enabled phone which will
synchronise
contacts with Outlook and travel internationally for work. The question
is
further complicated by the zero prefix (in the UK) for landlines or
mobile
numbers.

I would like to be able to know the format in which to enter (or
begrudgingly edit) contacts so that it will be done once and for all
and I
can use them with the mobile when traveling.

Any further suggestions?

Many thanks in advance for the advice.

"Jocelyn Fiorello [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

See if the information at http://www.slipstick.com/config/olphone.htm
helps
you to troubleshoot this issue.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


"Christine" wrote:

When Outlook adds the International dialling code +44 to UK phone
numbers, it
does not remove the zero from the STD (area) code. This makes the
number
invalid so it cannot be used for dialling. How do I fix this? It
also
applies to other European numbers.

Ah yes, I just tried that, and can't do a + followed by a space. I'm not
sure I can offer any other help I'm afraid.

Out of interest, why do you need the space? I format mine as "+44 1425
234567", and that works fine for every use I've come across so far. That
formatting is accepted fine by Outlook.

Mark

"mytilini" wrote in message
...
Hi Mark - thanks for this. I've tried entering data in the way you
suggested, via both the "Detailed Address Cards" & "Phone Lst" views
within
my Outlook 2002 Contacts folder. Whilst that allows me to lose the
parenthesis, any hyphens and basically put in ANY free format numerals &
punctuation in the format I want, I still cannot do this by preceding the
number with the keystokes "+[Spacebar]"; as soon as I do that, the auto
formatting takes over e.g. I can store "1 776 654-9876", but I can't seem
to
store "+ 1 776 654-9876"....do you have the same problem? I've also tried
to
disassociate a number from a country, but that seems to be impossible to
do -
Outlook will always invoke your default country setting's International
Direct Dialling code if you try to do that. Any further experiences would
be
most helpful; as I said, you seem to be able to format as you want with
all
earlier version of Outlook pre-2000, but MS seems to not allow you to use
the
telephone number fields as a free-format simple data storage device any
more....frustrating!! Thanks mytilini.

"Mark R Penn" wrote:

I do this all the time in OL2003. Just type the number exactly as you
want
it formatted, into the text field on the contact form. DON'T enter it by
clicking on the name of the field (e.g. "Home"), and even when it's in
there
don't click "OK" if you invoke the number details box by either clicking
the
field name or by double clicking the number itself. Instead always click
"Cancel".

HTH

Mark

"mytilini" wrote in message
...
I have a question realted to this subject: I DON'T use auto-dialling and
just
want to use my Outlook 2002 Contacts folder to display telephone
numbers
in
the format of my own choice. I've read the articles Jocelyn refers to;
but
I'd like to display the numbers in a + xxx yyy zzz zzzz format (where
x=international dialling code, y=STD or area code WITHOUT any preceding
"0"
or "9", and z=local number). I specifically DO want to place a space
between
the "+" sign and the "xxx" code and I don't want to allow Outlook to
automatically place parenthesis (brackets) around ANY STD/area code
("yyy")
numbers. Up to Outlook 2000, I could enter the data in the Outlook
teleohone
number fields as I wished, but increasingly I can't get past the
automatic
formatting rules applied by Outlook. Can it be done please? Thanks.

"Jocelyn Fiorello [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

Have you seen this article, which was linked from the previous article
I
mentioned?

http://www.slipstick.com/config/ukbignumber.htm

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


"DPP" wrote:

Jocelyn,

Thank you for the reference page which had a great deal of helpful
information. However, it doesn't seem to answer the simple question
of
"How
should I enter telephone numbers into Outlook?" or at least I
couldn't
figure
it out based on the information provided. (Sadly Microsoft seems not
to
have
this simple info posted anywhere either)

I live in the UK, have primarily US and UK contacts, with a few
other
international ones. This question is increasedly more important now
that I
have switched (excitedly) to a Windows enabled phone which will
synchronise
contacts with Outlook and travel internationally for work. The
question
is
further complicated by the zero prefix (in the UK) for landlines or
mobile
numbers.

I would like to be able to know the format in which to enter (or
begrudgingly edit) contacts so that it will be done once and for all
and I
can use them with the mobile when traveling.

Any further suggestions?

Many thanks in advance for the advice.

"Jocelyn Fiorello [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

See if the information at
http://www.slipstick.com/config/olphone.htm
helps
you to troubleshoot this issue.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered --
please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


"Christine" wrote:

When Outlook adds the International dialling code +44 to UK
phone
numbers, it
does not remove the zero from the STD (area) code. This makes
the
number
invalid so it cannot be used for dialling. How do I fix this?
It
also
applies to other European numbers.

Hi - just personal preference & the fact that invoking the "+[NO space]"
sometimes gives incorrect area codes for international mobiles and other
formatting errors!

"Mark R Penn" wrote:

Ah yes, I just tried that, and can't do a + followed by a space. I'm not
sure I can offer any other help I'm afraid.

Out of interest, why do you need the space? I format mine as "+44 1425
234567", and that works fine for every use I've come across so far. That
formatting is accepted fine by Outlook.

Mark

"mytilini" wrote in message
...
Hi Mark - thanks for this. I've tried entering data in the way you
suggested, via both the "Detailed Address Cards" & "Phone Lst" views
within
my Outlook 2002 Contacts folder. Whilst that allows me to lose the
parenthesis, any hyphens and basically put in ANY free format numerals &
punctuation in the format I want, I still cannot do this by preceding the
number with the keystokes "+[Spacebar]"; as soon as I do that, the auto
formatting takes over e.g. I can store "1 776 654-9876", but I can't seem
to
store "+ 1 776 654-9876"....do you have the same problem? I've also tried
to
disassociate a number from a country, but that seems to be impossible to
do -
Outlook will always invoke your default country setting's International
Direct Dialling code if you try to do that. Any further experiences would
be
most helpful; as I said, you seem to be able to format as you want with
all
earlier version of Outlook pre-2000, but MS seems to not allow you to use
the
telephone number fields as a free-format simple data storage device any
more....frustrating!! Thanks mytilini.

"Mark R Penn" wrote:

I do this all the time in OL2003. Just type the number exactly as you
want
it formatted, into the text field on the contact form. DON'T enter it by
clicking on the name of the field (e.g. "Home"), and even when it's in
there
don't click "OK" if you invoke the number details box by either clicking
the
field name or by double clicking the number itself. Instead always click
"Cancel".

HTH

Mark

"mytilini" wrote in message
...
I have a question realted to this subject: I DON'T use auto-dialling and
just
want to use my Outlook 2002 Contacts folder to display telephone
numbers
in
the format of my own choice. I've read the articles Jocelyn refers to;
but
I'd like to display the numbers in a + xxx yyy zzz zzzz format (where
x=international dialling code, y=STD or area code WITHOUT any preceding
"0"
or "9", and z=local number). I specifically DO want to place a space
between
the "+" sign and the "xxx" code and I don't want to allow Outlook to
automatically place parenthesis (brackets) around ANY STD/area code
("yyy")
numbers. Up to Outlook 2000, I could enter the data in the Outlook
teleohone
number fields as I wished, but increasingly I can't get past the
automatic
formatting rules applied by Outlook. Can it be done please? Thanks.

"Jocelyn Fiorello [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

Have you seen this article, which was linked from the previous article
I
mentioned?

http://www.slipstick.com/config/ukbignumber.htm

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered -- please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


"DPP" wrote:

Jocelyn,

Thank you for the reference page which had a great deal of helpful
information. However, it doesn't seem to answer the simple question
of
"How
should I enter telephone numbers into Outlook?" or at least I
couldn't
figure
it out based on the information provided. (Sadly Microsoft seems not
to
have
this simple info posted anywhere either)

I live in the UK, have primarily US and UK contacts, with a few
other
international ones. This question is increasedly more important now
that I
have switched (excitedly) to a Windows enabled phone which will
synchronise
contacts with Outlook and travel internationally for work. The
question
is
further complicated by the zero prefix (in the UK) for landlines or
mobile
numbers.

I would like to be able to know the format in which to enter (or
begrudgingly edit) contacts so that it will be done once and for all
and I
can use them with the mobile when traveling.

Any further suggestions?

Many thanks in advance for the advice.

"Jocelyn Fiorello [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

See if the information at
http://www.slipstick.com/config/olphone.htm
helps
you to troubleshoot this issue.

--
Jocelyn Fiorello
MVP - Outlook

*** Messages sent to my e-mail address will NOT be answered --
please
reply
only to the newsgroup to preserve the message thread. ***


"Christine" wrote:

When Outlook adds the International dialling code +44 to UK
phone
numbers, it
does not remove the zero from the STD (area) code. This makes
the
number
invalid so it cannot be used for dialling. How do I fix this?
It
also
applies to other European numbers.