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June 21st 09, 04:11 AM
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Making custom form default for contacts
Hello:
I am a beginner with Outlook. I am a new hire in a department that uses Outlook contact information in a Word Mail Merge process. I am teaching myself how this all works, and have been doing ok, but I am struggling with forms, particularly the form used for contacts. I don't have any problems modifying the form (for example to add FirstName and LastName fields), but I am very confused about how to get Outlook to use my modified form instead of the default custom contacts form. It seems to me that this should be a simple property setting, but I've had no luck tinkering with the various menu options. I've seen post suggesting registry changes are needed. Is it really this complicated to make my form the default? Any links to a tutorial on how to do this? Thanks! -- Fred Boer - Amateur Access Enthusiast Interests: Library software / Z39.50 / Web Services Freeware Small Library Application available he http://www3.sympatico.ca/lornarourke/ 
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June 21st 09, 04:39 AM
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Making custom form default for contacts
Ok, I am closer... I was confused by the behaviour of the forms. I *have*
been able to modify a form and then set it as the default. I have tested this and when I add a new contact, the modified form is used. BUT... when I click on an *existing* contact, it doesn't use the new "default" form, but uses a different (older) form. Shouldn't all contacts use the "default" form? This behaviour had convinced me that my forms weren't being used as the "default" - when older contacts didn't display using the modified form, I assumed the "default" had not been set. So, does setting the "default" form only apply then to new contacts? If so, how do I force/import the older contacts to use the new form? Thanks! Fred "Fred Boer" wrote in message ... Hello: I am a beginner with Outlook. I am a new hire in a department that uses Outlook contact information in a Word Mail Merge process. I am teaching myself how this all works, and have been doing ok, but I am struggling with forms, particularly the form used for contacts. I don't have any problems modifying the form (for example to add FirstName and LastName fields), but I am very confused about how to get Outlook to use my modified form instead of the default custom contacts form. It seems to me that this should be a simple property setting, but I've had no luck tinkering with the various menu options. I've seen post suggesting registry changes are needed. Is it really this complicated to make my form the default? Any links to a tutorial on how to do this? Thanks! -- Fred Boer - Amateur Access Enthusiast Interests: Library software / Z39.50 / Web Services Freeware Small Library Application available he http://www3.sympatico.ca/lornarourke/
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June 21st 09, 11:57 AM
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Making custom form default for contacts
A contact is assigned a "MessageClass" at the time of creation (the
default for the folder) which is used when the item is displayed. You'll need a 3rd party utility to change the MessageClass for any contacts that existed prior to changing the Default for the folder. Either of the 2 free utilities below will do what you need: ContactGenie Message Class Modifier http://www.contactgenie.com/cgtmcm.htm DocMessageClass http://www.publicshareware.com/publi...-utilities.php Karl __________________________________________________ _ Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group ContactGenie - Importer 1.3 / DataPorter 2.0 / Exporter "Power contact importers/exporters for MS Outlook '2000/2007" http://www.contactgenie.com "Fred Boer" wrote in message ... Ok, I am closer... I was confused by the behaviour of the forms. I *have* been able to modify a form and then set it as the default. I have tested this and when I add a new contact, the modified form is used. BUT... when I click on an *existing* contact, it doesn't use the new "default" form, but uses a different (older) form. Shouldn't all contacts use the "default" form? This behaviour had convinced me that my forms weren't being used as the "default" - when older contacts didn't display using the modified form, I assumed the "default" had not been set. So, does setting the "default" form only apply then to new contacts? If so, how do I force/import the older contacts to use the new form? Thanks! Fred "Fred Boer" wrote in message ... Hello: I am a beginner with Outlook. I am a new hire in a department that uses Outlook contact information in a Word Mail Merge process. I am teaching myself how this all works, and have been doing ok, but I am struggling with forms, particularly the form used for contacts. I don't have any problems modifying the form (for example to add FirstName and LastName fields), but I am very confused about how to get Outlook to use my modified form instead of the default custom contacts form. It seems to me that this should be a simple property setting, but I've had no luck tinkering with the various menu options. I've seen post suggesting registry changes are needed. Is it really this complicated to make my form the default? Any links to a tutorial on how to do this? Thanks! -- Fred Boer - Amateur Access Enthusiast Interests: Library software / Z39.50 / Web Services Freeware Small Library Application available he http://www3.sympatico.ca/lornarourke/
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June 21st 09, 01:49 PM
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Making custom form default for contacts
Dear Karl:
Thank you very much. I will be trying this out later today. Obviously the forms in Outlook are quite unlike forms I am used to in Microsoft Access! Cheers! Fred "Karl Timmermans" wrote in message ... A contact is assigned a "MessageClass" at the time of creation (the default for the folder) which is used when the item is displayed. You'll need a 3rd party utility to change the MessageClass for any contacts that existed prior to changing the Default for the folder. Either of the 2 free utilities below will do what you need: ContactGenie Message Class Modifier http://www.contactgenie.com/cgtmcm.htm DocMessageClass http://www.publicshareware.com/publi...-utilities.php Karl __________________________________________________ _ Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group ContactGenie - Importer 1.3 / DataPorter 2.0 / Exporter "Power contact importers/exporters for MS Outlook '2000/2007" http://www.contactgenie.com "Fred Boer" wrote in message ... Ok, I am closer... I was confused by the behaviour of the forms. I *have* been able to modify a form and then set it as the default. I have tested this and when I add a new contact, the modified form is used. BUT... when I click on an *existing* contact, it doesn't use the new "default" form, but uses a different (older) form. Shouldn't all contacts use the "default" form? This behaviour had convinced me that my forms weren't being used as the "default" - when older contacts didn't display using the modified form, I assumed the "default" had not been set. So, does setting the "default" form only apply then to new contacts? If so, how do I force/import the older contacts to use the new form? Thanks! Fred "Fred Boer" wrote in message ... Hello: I am a beginner with Outlook. I am a new hire in a department that uses Outlook contact information in a Word Mail Merge process. I am teaching myself how this all works, and have been doing ok, but I am struggling with forms, particularly the form used for contacts. I don't have any problems modifying the form (for example to add FirstName and LastName fields), but I am very confused about how to get Outlook to use my modified form instead of the default custom contacts form. It seems to me that this should be a simple property setting, but I've had no luck tinkering with the various menu options. I've seen post suggesting registry changes are needed. Is it really this complicated to make my form the default? Any links to a tutorial on how to do this? Thanks! -- Fred Boer - Amateur Access Enthusiast Interests: Library software / Z39.50 / Web Services Freeware Small Library Application available he http://www3.sympatico.ca/lornarourke/
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June 22nd 09, 01:18 AM
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Making custom form default for contacts
Thank you for telling me about this - and for making it available! Worked
great! Fred "Karl Timmermans" wrote in message ... A contact is assigned a "MessageClass" at the time of creation (the default for the folder) which is used when the item is displayed. You'll need a 3rd party utility to change the MessageClass for any contacts that existed prior to changing the Default for the folder. Either of the 2 free utilities below will do what you need: ContactGenie Message Class Modifier http://www.contactgenie.com/cgtmcm.htm DocMessageClass http://www.publicshareware.com/publi...-utilities.php Karl __________________________________________________ _ Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group ContactGenie - Importer 1.3 / DataPorter 2.0 / Exporter "Power contact importers/exporters for MS Outlook '2000/2007" http://www.contactgenie.com "Fred Boer" wrote in message ... Ok, I am closer... I was confused by the behaviour of the forms. I *have* been able to modify a form and then set it as the default. I have tested this and when I add a new contact, the modified form is used. BUT... when I click on an *existing* contact, it doesn't use the new "default" form, but uses a different (older) form. Shouldn't all contacts use the "default" form? This behaviour had convinced me that my forms weren't being used as the "default" - when older contacts didn't display using the modified form, I assumed the "default" had not been set. So, does setting the "default" form only apply then to new contacts? If so, how do I force/import the older contacts to use the new form? Thanks! Fred "Fred Boer" wrote in message ... Hello: I am a beginner with Outlook. I am a new hire in a department that uses Outlook contact information in a Word Mail Merge process. I am teaching myself how this all works, and have been doing ok, but I am struggling with forms, particularly the form used for contacts. I don't have any problems modifying the form (for example to add FirstName and LastName fields), but I am very confused about how to get Outlook to use my modified form instead of the default custom contacts form. It seems to me that this should be a simple property setting, but I've had no luck tinkering with the various menu options. I've seen post suggesting registry changes are needed. Is it really this complicated to make my form the default? Any links to a tutorial on how to do this? Thanks! -- Fred Boer - Amateur Access Enthusiast Interests: Library software / Z39.50 / Web Services Freeware Small Library Application available he http://www3.sympatico.ca/lornarourke/
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