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January 5th 10, 10:53 PM
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Hi all,
We create the new contact form and we want users to use te customized contact form for old existing and new contact. I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html to modify each indiviual user. Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form for old existing form? thank you! 
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January 6th 10, 01:05 AM
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The application that you cited does what I think you're trying to do --
convert old items to use the new form by changing the value of the MessageClass property on each item so that it points to the published form's class, e.g. IPM.Contact.MyForm. The page at http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=39 has links to other scripts and tools to do this. -- Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming: Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54 "ed" wrote in message ... Hi all, We create the new contact form and we want users to use te customized contact form for old existing and new contact. I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html to modify each indiviual user. Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form for old existing form? thank you!
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January 6th 10, 03:22 AM
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What exactly is/are your question(s)? Not clear what you mean by "user"
in all cases within your question. #1 - If it is purely on how to change existing contacts to use a new message class - then DocMsgClass is definitely all you will need to change all contacts in any given contact folder (ContactGenie Toolkit also includes a similar free message class change function) #2 - Or is your question: "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders (b) to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact folder OR ... (c) have all users use the same custom form for a public contact folder (d) without going to each user's computer?" If any part of it relates to item #2 - are you using Exchange? Karl -- __________________________________________________ __________ Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr "Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010" http://www.contactgenie.com "ed" wrote in message ... Hi all, We create the new contact form and we want users to use te customized contact form for old existing and new contact. I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html to modify each indiviual user. Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form for old existing form? thank you!
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January 6th 10, 02:51 PM
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Thank you for your great help.
sorry about that I did not state my questions clearly. Yes. my question is: "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact folder without going to each user's computer?" We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007. we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form library should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use the new customized folder? Thank you and thank you. (we have around 800 users ) "Karl Timmermans" wrote: What exactly is/are your question(s)? Not clear what you mean by "user" in all cases within your question. #1 - If it is purely on how to change existing contacts to use a new message class - then DocMsgClass is definitely all you will need to change all contacts in any given contact folder (ContactGenie Toolkit also includes a similar free message class change function) #2 - Or is your question: "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders (b) to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact folder OR ... (c) have all users use the same custom form for a public contact folder (d) without going to each user's computer?" If any part of it relates to item #2 - are you using Exchange? Karl -- __________________________________________________ __________ Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr "Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010" http://www.contactgenie.com "ed" wrote in message ... Hi all, We create the new contact form and we want users to use te customized contact form for old existing and new contact. I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html to modify each indiviual user. Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form for old existing form? thank you! .
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January 6th 10, 04:34 PM
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Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but from
where I sit - #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch admin will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the "Default Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of anything off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk since the folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only. #3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be accessing all the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since DocMsgClass (as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that matter) requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I believe I'm correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and then processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users and would be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each user's workstation. Karl -- __________________________________________________ __________ Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr "Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010" http://www.contactgenie.com "ed" wrote in message ... Thank you for your great help. sorry about that I did not state my questions clearly. Yes. my question is: "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact folder without going to each user's computer?" We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007. we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form library should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use the new customized folder? Thank you and thank you. (we have around 800 users ) "Karl Timmermans" wrote: What exactly is/are your question(s)? Not clear what you mean by "user" in all cases within your question. #1 - If it is purely on how to change existing contacts to use a new message class - then DocMsgClass is definitely all you will need to change all contacts in any given contact folder (ContactGenie Toolkit also includes a similar free message class change function) #2 - Or is your question: "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders (b) to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact folder OR ... (c) have all users use the same custom form for a public contact folder (d) without going to each user's computer?" If any part of it relates to item #2 - are you using Exchange? Karl -- __________________________________________________ __________ Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr "Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010" http://www.contactgenie.com "ed" wrote in message ... Hi all, We create the new contact form and we want users to use te customized contact form for old existing and new contact. I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html to modify each indiviual user. Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form for old existing form? thank you! .
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January 6th 10, 04:53 PM
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#2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object or with
any low-level API addressing Outlook. An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method (see http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new form the default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is no longer available at some future date. If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form region would be the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture, form regions aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in Express tool might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business need has raised the idea of using a custom form. -- Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming: Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54 "Karl Timmermans" wrote in message ... Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but from where I sit - #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch admin will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the "Default Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of anything off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk since the folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only. #3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be accessing all the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since DocMsgClass (as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that matter) requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I believe I'm correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and then processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users and would be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each user's workstation. "ed" wrote in message ... "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact folder without going to each user's computer?" We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007. we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form library should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use the new customized folder?
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January 6th 10, 05:44 PM
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By low-level API - are you referring to things like Redemption? The default
folder MCls property shows as "read-only" or am I missing something painfully obvious (very likely)? Karl -- __________________________________________________ __________ Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr "Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010" http://www.contactgenie.com "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote in message ... #2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object or with any low-level API addressing Outlook. An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method (see http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new form the default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is no longer available at some future date. If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form region would be the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture, form regions aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in Express tool might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business need has raised the idea of using a custom form. -- Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming: Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54 "Karl Timmermans" wrote in message ... Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but from where I sit - #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch admin will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the "Default Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of anything off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk since the folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only. #3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be accessing all the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since DocMsgClass (as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that matter) requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I believe I'm correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and then processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users and would be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each user's workstation. "ed" wrote in message ... "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact folder without going to each user's computer?" We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007. we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form library should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use the new customized folder?
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January 6th 10, 06:39 PM
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Sue,
Thanks for your help. 99% of users are using outlook 2003. any alternate way? what's the registry change? I did not see in the link. "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote: #2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object or with any low-level API addressing Outlook. An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method (see http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new form the default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is no longer available at some future date. If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form region would be the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture, form regions aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in Express tool might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business need has raised the idea of using a custom form. -- Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming: Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54 "Karl Timmermans" wrote in message ... Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but from where I sit - #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch admin will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the "Default Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of anything off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk since the folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only. #3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be accessing all the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since DocMsgClass (as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that matter) requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I believe I'm correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and then processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users and would be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each user's workstation. "ed" wrote in message ... "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact folder without going to each user's computer?" We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007. we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form library should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use the new customized folder? .
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January 6th 10, 06:37 PM
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Great thanks.
#1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library will it change the new contact form for all users if I publish to the exch org? Change Folder Default To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder or to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've published the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select your form from the When posting to this folder list I have to go toeach workstation to change folder default too, right? any automatic way? Thank you for your time and help. "Karl Timmermans" wrote: Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but from where I sit - #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch admin will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the "Default Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of anything off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk since the folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only. #3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be accessing all the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since DocMsgClass (as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that matter) requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I believe I'm correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and then processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users and would be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each user's workstation. Karl -- __________________________________________________ __________ Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr "Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010" http://www.contactgenie.com "ed" wrote in message ... Thank you for your great help. sorry about that I did not state my questions clearly. Yes. my question is: "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact folder without going to each user's computer?" We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007. we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form library should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use the new customized folder? Thank you and thank you. (we have around 800 users ) "Karl Timmermans" wrote: What exactly is/are your question(s)? Not clear what you mean by "user" in all cases within your question. #1 - If it is purely on how to change existing contacts to use a new message class - then DocMsgClass is definitely all you will need to change all contacts in any given contact folder (ContactGenie Toolkit also includes a similar free message class change function) #2 - Or is your question: "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders (b) to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact folder OR ... (c) have all users use the same custom form for a public contact folder (d) without going to each user's computer?" If any part of it relates to item #2 - are you using Exchange? Karl -- __________________________________________________ __________ Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr "Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010" http://www.contactgenie.com "ed" wrote in message ... Hi all, We create the new contact form and we want users to use te customized contact form for old existing and new contact. I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html to modify each indiviual user. Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form for old existing form? thank you! . .
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January 6th 10, 10:11 PM
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With no intention of duplicating answers already posted by Sue....
#1 - Changing workstations Bottomline - each individual workstation needs to be changed in terms of the default folder msgclass - either directly (which ever method is chosen based on other responses) or via the method I described in original answer #2 - Automatic method to change default for folders? None that I am aware of at present with anything that exists but will easily stand corrected on that if someone knows of something. And remember, once the default msg class has been changed - still need to run something like DocMsgClass or the MCls Change function in CG Toolkit to change existing contact items. There is going to be functionality added to CG Toolkit to address both of the issues described in item#2 at some point but that unfortunately doesn't help you with the task at hand today. Karl -- __________________________________________________ __________ Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr "Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010" http://www.contactgenie.com "ed" wrote in message ... Great thanks. #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library will it change the new contact form for all users if I publish to the exch org? Change Folder Default To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder or to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've published the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select your form from the When posting to this folder list I have to go toeach workstation to change folder default too, right? any automatic way? Thank you for your time and help. "Karl Timmermans" wrote: Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but from where I sit - #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch admin will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the "Default Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of anything off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk since the folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only. #3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be accessing all the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since DocMsgClass (as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that matter) requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I believe I'm correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and then processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users and would be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each user's workstation. Karl -- __________________________________________________ __________ Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr "Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010" http://www.contactgenie.com "ed" wrote in message ... Thank you for your great help. sorry about that I did not state my questions clearly. Yes. my question is: "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact folder without going to each user's computer?" We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007. we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form library should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use the new customized folder? Thank you and thank you. (we have around 800 users ) "Karl Timmermans" wrote: What exactly is/are your question(s)? Not clear what you mean by "user" in all cases within your question. #1 - If it is purely on how to change existing contacts to use a new message class - then DocMsgClass is definitely all you will need to change all contacts in any given contact folder (ContactGenie Toolkit also includes a similar free message class change function) #2 - Or is your question: "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders (b) to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact folder OR ... (c) have all users use the same custom form for a public contact folder (d) without going to each user's computer?" If any part of it relates to item #2 - are you using Exchange? Karl -- __________________________________________________ __________ Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr "Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010" http://www.contactgenie.com "ed" wrote in message ... Hi all, We create the new contact form and we want users to use te customized contact form for old existing and new contact. I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html to modify each indiviual user. Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form for old existing form? thank you! . .
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