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  #1  
Old January 5th 10, 10:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.program_vba
ed
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Default use customizedform for the exsisting contacts

Hi all,

We create the new contact form and we want users to use te customized
contact form for old existing and new contact.

I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html
to modify each indiviual user.

Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form for old
existing form?

thank you!

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Old January 6th 10, 01:05 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.program_vba
Sue Mosher [MVP][_4_]
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Default use customizedform for the exsisting contacts

The application that you cited does what I think you're trying to do --
convert old items to use the new form by changing the value of the
MessageClass property on each item so that it points to the published form's
class, e.g. IPM.Contact.MyForm. The page at
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=39 has links to other scripts and
tools to do this.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"ed" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

We create the new contact form and we want users to use te customized
contact form for old existing and new contact.

I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html
to modify each indiviual user.

Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form for old
existing form?

thank you!



  #3  
Old January 6th 10, 03:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.program_vba
Karl Timmermans
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Posts: 789
Default use customizedform for the exsisting contacts

What exactly is/are your question(s)? Not clear what you mean by "user"
in all cases within your question.

#1 - If it is purely on how to change existing contacts to use a new message
class - then DocMsgClass is definitely all you will need to change all
contacts in any given contact folder (ContactGenie Toolkit also includes a
similar free message class change function)

#2 - Or is your question:
"(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders
(b) to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in
each user's contact folder OR ...
(c) have all users use the same custom form for a public contact folder
(d) without going to each user's computer?"

If any part of it relates to item #2 - are you using Exchange?

Karl
--
__________________________________________________ __________
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr
"Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010"
http://www.contactgenie.com



"ed" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

We create the new contact form and we want users to use te customized
contact form for old existing and new contact.

I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html
to modify each indiviual user.

Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form for old
existing form?

thank you!




  #4  
Old January 6th 10, 02:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.program_vba
ed
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Posts: 114
Default use customizedform for the exsisting contacts

Thank you for your great help.
sorry about that I did not state my questions clearly.
Yes. my question is:


"(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact folder without going to each user's computer?"


We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form library
should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use the new
customized folder?

Thank you and thank you. (we have around 800 users )
"Karl Timmermans" wrote:

What exactly is/are your question(s)? Not clear what you mean by "user"
in all cases within your question.

#1 - If it is purely on how to change existing contacts to use a new message
class - then DocMsgClass is definitely all you will need to change all
contacts in any given contact folder (ContactGenie Toolkit also includes a
similar free message class change function)

#2 - Or is your question:
"(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders
(b) to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in
each user's contact folder OR ...
(c) have all users use the same custom form for a public contact folder
(d) without going to each user's computer?"

If any part of it relates to item #2 - are you using Exchange?

Karl
--
__________________________________________________ __________
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr
"Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010"
http://www.contactgenie.com



"ed" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

We create the new contact form and we want users to use te customized
contact form for old existing and new contact.

I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html
to modify each indiviual user.

Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form for old
existing form?

thank you!




.

  #5  
Old January 6th 10, 02:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.program_vba
ed
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Posts: 114
Default use customizedform for the exsisting contacts

Sorry and yes, my question is related to item #2.
We are using exchange 2003/outlook2003.

(c) have all users use the same custom form for a public contact folder

You mean each user's outlook default contact folder and then yes. (not
public folders)

"Karl Timmermans" wrote:

What exactly is/are your question(s)? Not clear what you mean by "user"
in all cases within your question.

#1 - If it is purely on how to change existing contacts to use a new message
class - then DocMsgClass is definitely all you will need to change all
contacts in any given contact folder (ContactGenie Toolkit also includes a
similar free message class change function)

#2 - Or is your question:
"(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders
(b) to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in
each user's contact folder OR ...
(c) have all users use the same custom form for a public contact folder
(d) without going to each user's computer?"

If any part of it relates to item #2 - are you using Exchange?

Karl
--
__________________________________________________ __________
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr
"Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010"
http://www.contactgenie.com



"ed" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

We create the new contact form and we want users to use te customized
contact form for old existing and new contact.

I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html
to modify each indiviual user.

Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form for old
existing form?

thank you!




.

  #6  
Old January 6th 10, 04:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.program_vba
Karl Timmermans
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Posts: 789
Default use customizedform for the exsisting contacts

Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but from
where I sit -

#1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library

#2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch admin
will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the "Default
Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of anything
off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk since the
folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.

#3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be accessing
all
the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since DocMsgClass
(as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that
matter)
requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I
believe I'm
correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and then
processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users and
would
be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each
user's
workstation.

Karl
--
__________________________________________________ __________
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr
"Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010"
http://www.contactgenie.com


"ed" wrote in message
...
Thank you for your great help.
sorry about that I did not state my questions clearly.
Yes. my question is:


"(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new
message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact
folder without going to each user's computer?"


We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form
library
should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use the
new
customized folder?

Thank you and thank you. (we have around 800 users )
"Karl Timmermans" wrote:

What exactly is/are your question(s)? Not clear what you mean by "user"
in all cases within your question.

#1 - If it is purely on how to change existing contacts to use a new
message
class - then DocMsgClass is definitely all you will need to change all
contacts in any given contact folder (ContactGenie Toolkit also includes
a
similar free message class change function)

#2 - Or is your question:
"(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders
(b) to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in
each user's contact folder OR ...
(c) have all users use the same custom form for a public contact
folder
(d) without going to each user's computer?"

If any part of it relates to item #2 - are you using Exchange?

Karl
--
__________________________________________________ __________
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr
"Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010"
http://www.contactgenie.com



"ed" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

We create the new contact form and we want users to use te customized
contact form for old existing and new contact.

I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html
to modify each indiviual user.

Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form for
old
existing form?

thank you!




.




  #7  
Old January 6th 10, 04:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.program_vba
Sue Mosher [MVP][_4_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 552
Default use customizedform for the exsisting contacts

#2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object or with
any low-level API addressing Outlook.

An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method (see
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new form the
default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is no longer
available at some future date.

If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form region would be
the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture, form regions
aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in Express tool
might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business need has
raised the idea of using a custom form.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"Karl Timmermans" wrote in message
...
Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but
from
where I sit -

#1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library

#2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch
admin
will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the
"Default
Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of
anything
off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk since
the
folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.

#3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be accessing
all
the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since
DocMsgClass
(as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that
matter)
requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I
believe I'm
correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and then
processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users and
would
be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each
user's
workstation.

"ed" wrote in message
...

"(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new
message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact
folder without going to each user's computer?"


We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form
library
should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use the
new
customized folder?



  #8  
Old January 6th 10, 05:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.program_vba
Karl Timmermans
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Posts: 789
Default use customizedform for the exsisting contacts

By low-level API - are you referring to things like Redemption? The default
folder MCls property shows as "read-only" or am I missing something
painfully obvious (very likely)?

Karl
--
__________________________________________________ __________
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr
"Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010"
http://www.contactgenie.com

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote in message
...
#2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object or
with any low-level API addressing Outlook.

An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method (see
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new form the
default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is no longer
available at some future date.

If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form region would
be the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture, form
regions aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in Express
tool might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business need
has raised the idea of using a custom form.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"Karl Timmermans" wrote in message
...
Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but
from
where I sit -

#1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library

#2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch
admin
will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the
"Default
Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of
anything
off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk since
the
folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.

#3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be accessing
all
the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since
DocMsgClass
(as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that
matter)
requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I
believe I'm
correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and then
processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users and
would
be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each
user's
workstation.

"ed" wrote in message
...

"(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new
message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact
folder without going to each user's computer?"

We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form
library
should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use the
new
customized folder?





  #9  
Old January 6th 10, 06:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.program_vba
ed
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Posts: 114
Default use customizedform for the exsisting contacts

Great thanks.
#1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library

will it change the new contact form for all users if I publish to the exch
org?

Change Folder Default

To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder or
to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've published
the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select your
form from the When posting to this folder list

I have to go toeach workstation to change folder default too, right? any
automatic way?

Thank you for your time and help.


"Karl Timmermans" wrote:

Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but from
where I sit -

#1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library

#2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch admin
will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the "Default
Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of anything
off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk since the
folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.

#3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be accessing
all
the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since DocMsgClass
(as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that
matter)
requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I
believe I'm
correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and then
processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users and
would
be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each
user's
workstation.

Karl
--
__________________________________________________ __________
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr
"Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010"
http://www.contactgenie.com


"ed" wrote in message
...
Thank you for your great help.
sorry about that I did not state my questions clearly.
Yes. my question is:


"(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new
message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact
folder without going to each user's computer?"


We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form
library
should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use the
new
customized folder?

Thank you and thank you. (we have around 800 users )
"Karl Timmermans" wrote:

What exactly is/are your question(s)? Not clear what you mean by "user"
in all cases within your question.

#1 - If it is purely on how to change existing contacts to use a new
message
class - then DocMsgClass is definitely all you will need to change all
contacts in any given contact folder (ContactGenie Toolkit also includes
a
similar free message class change function)

#2 - Or is your question:
"(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders
(b) to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in
each user's contact folder OR ...
(c) have all users use the same custom form for a public contact
folder
(d) without going to each user's computer?"

If any part of it relates to item #2 - are you using Exchange?

Karl
--
__________________________________________________ __________
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr
"Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010"
http://www.contactgenie.com



"ed" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

We create the new contact form and we want users to use te customized
contact form for old existing and new contact.

I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html
to modify each indiviual user.

Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form for
old
existing form?

thank you!




.




.

  #10  
Old January 6th 10, 06:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.program_vba
Sue Mosher [MVP][_4_]
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Posts: 552
Default use customizedform for the exsisting contacts

Redemption, CDO 1.21, or ExMAPI. -- PR_DEF_POST_MSGCLASS
(http://schemas.microsoft.com/mapi/proptag/0x36E5001E) and
PR_DEF_POST_DISPLAYNAME
(http://schemas.microsoft.com/mapi/proptag/0x36E6001E)
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"Karl Timmermans" wrote in message
...
By low-level API - are you referring to things like Redemption? The
default
folder MCls property shows as "read-only" or am I missing something
painfully obvious (very likely)?

Karl
--
__________________________________________________ __________
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr
"Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010"
http://www.contactgenie.com

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote in message
...
#2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object or
with any low-level API addressing Outlook.

"Karl Timmermans" wrote in message
...

#2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch
admin
will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the
"Default
Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of
anything
off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk since
the
folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.



 




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