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Hello,
Hopefully I can find some help here. I’m currently in utter disbelief with this situation. I just installed Outlook 2007, and I can’t believe what a hassle it is. I have been running Outlook Express for the last 12 years. I now have five email accounts, three that are for my business, one for bill pay purposes, and another personal. I thought by now, since 1998 when I first started using Outlook Express, that Microsoft would have developed into Outlook the basics of a good functional email program, something that was a “step-up” from Outlook Express, and so I decided to try Outlook. I have been told that Outlook would give me better organization and efficiency when it comes to my email needs. However so far it looks as if Outlook is waste of time compared to Outlook Express. There appears to be no real efficient and organized way for me to separate my five email addresses and the associated email within Outlook 2007, as I have been able to do in Outlook Express. With Outlook Express I was able to create five separate identities, one for each of my email addresses. I was able to then seamlessly switch back and forth between email addresses in the blink of an eye with no problems. Each identity had its own inbox, outbox, sent folder, and deleted folder. For organization, I could then also create dozens of individual sub-folders and name them accordingly as needed within each of my five identities. Apparently none of this is really possible with Outlook 2007, at least not in any way that is efficient and organized. First, as I started to configure Outlook for my five email addresses, my worst fears were realized. Outlook will only allow me to hit one “send/receive” button, and then all of my email from my five different email addresses is dumped into one inbox. What a joke. Five email addresses that have no choice but to share the same inbox, outbox, sent & deleted folders. Who in their right mind would want to have their business email mixed up with their personal email and vice-versa, only to then have to spend the time to sort it out? As I explored a little further, I found out that if I wanted to spend some further time, I would have to set up some kind of “system of rules” for each email address, that would somehow direct my different email into different folders…..a further hassle. I was hoping for a better, more organized and efficient email program, only I’m finding out that Outlook Express makes Outlook 2007 look inefficient in comparison. I could see if someone only had one email address, or did not care about organization when it came to many emails coming and going each day, then Outlook might be acceptable, but this is ridiculous. Who in business only has one email address? Who doesn’t care about organizing, efficiency, and keeping separation between different email addresses? I’m at a loss to where the benefit is for me to switch to Outlook from Outlook Express, unless I’m missing something here, (which is possible since I’m new to Outlook). Before submitting this post, I started searching this forum as well as on the internet for answers, and was informed that if I wanted to start paying a monthly fee, I could pay for something called an “exchange server or service”? Paying to have me email sorted or organized would be a further rip off. I also found a post that said I can set up separate “profiles”, one for each email address, within Outlook that would give me some separation between email accounts, (which started to sound encouraging) but then the post went on to say in that order to switch from one profile to another within Outlook, I would need to actually shut-down and close-out the Outlook program completely each time I wanted to switch between profiles. That isn’t efficient and doesn’t make sense. So I wanted to see what this forum had to say before going through all that hassle first. Is it unreasonable for someone in business to have five email addresses and want to be able to have some efficiency, separation, and organization with the five email addresses? How could Microsoft have blown it so bad on this one? Of course I am comparing Outlook to Outlook Express where all the issues I’ve raised don't produce not even a hiccup. So what am I missing here with Outlook? Isn’t Outlook supposed to be a step-up and not a step-down from Outlook Express when it comes to efficiency, organization, and time savings? Isn’t Outlook supposed to be “better” than Outlook Express for someone who needs some functionality? I was told this is the forum to come to? ? ? Please Help. in utter disbelief, Christine K. |
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OE is now dead, superceeded by WLM, OE doesnt have calander, tasks and other
information services. Exchange is not going to do anything that you cannot allready do in Outlook, once you have taken the trouble to configure it. http://www.howto-outlook.com/howto/sortmail.htm Scroll down to the bottom, 'Directly assign.............' "Kristen K." wrote in message ... Hello, Hopefully I can find some help here. I'm currently in utter disbelief with this situation. I just installed Outlook 2007, and I can't believe what a hassle it is. I have been running Outlook Express for the last 12 years. I now have five email accounts, three that are for my business, one for bill pay purposes, and another personal. I thought by now, since 1998 when I first started using Outlook Express, that Microsoft would have developed into Outlook the basics of a good functional email program, something that was a "step-up" from Outlook Express, and so I decided to try Outlook. I have been told that Outlook would give me better organization and efficiency when it comes to my email needs. However so far it looks as if Outlook is waste of time compared to Outlook Express. There appears to be no real efficient and organized way for me to separate my five email addresses and the associated email within Outlook 2007, as I have been able to do in Outlook Express. With Outlook Express I was able to create five separate identities, one for each of my email addresses. I was able to then seamlessly switch back and forth between email addresses in the blink of an eye with no problems. Each identity had its own inbox, outbox, sent folder, and deleted folder. For organization, I could then also create dozens of individual sub-folders and name them accordingly as needed within each of my five identities. Apparently none of this is really possible with Outlook 2007, at least not in any way that is efficient and organized. First, as I started to configure Outlook for my five email addresses, my worst fears were realized. Outlook will only allow me to hit one "send/receive" button, and then all of my email from my five different addresses is dumped into one inbox. What a joke. Five email addresses that have no choice but to share the same inbox, outbox, sent & deleted folders. Who in their right mind would want to have their business email mixed up with their personal email and vice-versa, only to then have to spend the time to sort it out? As I explored a little further, I found out that if I wanted to spend some further time, I would have to set up some kind of "system of rules" for each email address, that would somehow direct my different email into different folders...a further hassle. I was hoping for a better, more organized and efficient email program, only I'm finding out that Outlook Express makes Outlook 2007 look inefficient in comparison. I could see if someone only had one email address, or did not care about organization when it came to many emails coming and going each day, then Outlook might be acceptable, but this is ridiculous. Who in business only has one email address? Who doesn't care about organizing, efficiency, and keeping separation between different email addresses? I'm at a loss to where the benefit is for me to switch to Outlook from Outlook Express, unless I'm missing something here, (which is possible since I'm new to Outlook). Before submitting this post, I started searching this forum as well as on the internet for answers, and was informed that if I wanted to start paying a monthly fee, I could pay for something called an "exchange server or service"? Paying to have me email sorted or organized would be a further rip off. I also found a post that said I can set up separate "profiles", one for each email address, within Outlook that would give me some separation between email accounts, (which started to sound encouraging) but then the post went on to say in that order to switch from one profile to another within Outlook, I would need to actually shut-down and close-out the Outlook program completely each time I wanted to switch between profiles. That isn't efficient and doesn't make sense. So I wanted to see what this forum had to say before going through all that hassle first. Is it unreasonable for someone in business to have five email addresses and want to be able to have some efficiency, separation, and organization with the five email addresses? How could Microsoft have blown it so bad on this one? Of course I am comparing Outlook to Outlook Express where all the issues I've raised don't produce not even a hiccup. So what am I missing here with Outlook? Isn't Outlook supposed to be a step-up and not a step-down from Outlook Express when it comes to efficiency, organization, and time savings? Isn't Outlook supposed to be "better" than Outlook Express for someone who needs some functionality? I was told this is the forum to come to? ? ? Please Help. in utter disbelief, Christine K. |
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Hello DL,
Outlook Express may be dead, but Outlook 2007 apparently can't handle something as basic as downloading email into separate email accounts as I described Outlook Express is currently doing to this day. Outlook can't seem to handle my five emails without dumping everything into one inbox, which is what I would have expected from Microsoft if this was 1994 when email was really just starting up. The link to the site you provided in your post does not address any of the specific issues I raised, so why did you provide it? I went to that site before I posted to look specifically for the issues I posted about. If you're not going to read my post and speak toward the issues I raised, with all due respect, what's the point of you posting? I'm sure and I'm hoping there are others out there who know how to help. Thanks anyways, you were allot of help DL. "DL" wrote: OE is now dead, superceeded by WLM, OE doesnt have calander, tasks and other information services. Exchange is not going to do anything that you cannot allready do in Outlook, once you have taken the trouble to configure it. http://www.howto-outlook.com/howto/sortmail.htm Scroll down to the bottom, 'Directly assign.............' "Kristen K." wrote in message ... Hello, Hopefully I can find some help here. I'm currently in utter disbelief with this situation. I just installed Outlook 2007, and I can't believe what a hassle it is. I have been running Outlook Express for the last 12 years. I now have five email accounts, three that are for my business, one for bill pay purposes, and another personal. I thought by now, since 1998 when I first started using Outlook Express, that Microsoft would have developed into Outlook the basics of a good functional email program, something that was a "step-up" from Outlook Express, and so I decided to try Outlook. I have been told that Outlook would give me better organization and efficiency when it comes to my email needs. However so far it looks as if Outlook is waste of time compared to Outlook Express. There appears to be no real efficient and organized way for me to separate my five email addresses and the associated email within Outlook 2007, as I have been able to do in Outlook Express. With Outlook Express I was able to create five separate identities, one for each of my email addresses. I was able to then seamlessly switch back and forth between email addresses in the blink of an eye with no problems. Each identity had its own inbox, outbox, sent folder, and deleted folder. For organization, I could then also create dozens of individual sub-folders and name them accordingly as needed within each of my five identities. Apparently none of this is really possible with Outlook 2007, at least not in any way that is efficient and organized. First, as I started to configure Outlook for my five email addresses, my worst fears were realized. Outlook will only allow me to hit one "send/receive" button, and then all of my email from my five different addresses is dumped into one inbox. What a joke. Five email addresses that have no choice but to share the same inbox, outbox, sent & deleted folders. Who in their right mind would want to have their business email mixed up with their personal email and vice-versa, only to then have to spend the time to sort it out? As I explored a little further, I found out that if I wanted to spend some further time, I would have to set up some kind of "system of rules" for each email address, that would somehow direct my different email into different folders...a further hassle. I was hoping for a better, more organized and efficient email program, only I'm finding out that Outlook Express makes Outlook 2007 look inefficient in comparison. I could see if someone only had one email address, or did not care about organization when it came to many emails coming and going each day, then Outlook might be acceptable, but this is ridiculous. Who in business only has one email address? Who doesn't care about organizing, efficiency, and keeping separation between different email addresses? I'm at a loss to where the benefit is for me to switch to Outlook from Outlook Express, unless I'm missing something here, (which is possible since I'm new to Outlook). Before submitting this post, I started searching this forum as well as on the internet for answers, and was informed that if I wanted to start paying a monthly fee, I could pay for something called an "exchange server or service"? Paying to have me email sorted or organized would be a further rip off. I also found a post that said I can set up separate "profiles", one for each email address, within Outlook that would give me some separation between email accounts, (which started to sound encouraging) but then the post went on to say in that order to switch from one profile to another within Outlook, I would need to actually shut-down and close-out the Outlook program completely each time I wanted to switch between profiles. That isn't efficient and doesn't make sense. So I wanted to see what this forum had to say before going through all that hassle first. Is it unreasonable for someone in business to have five email addresses and want to be able to have some efficiency, separation, and organization with the five email addresses? How could Microsoft have blown it so bad on this one? Of course I am comparing Outlook to Outlook Express where all the issues I've raised don't produce not even a hiccup. So what am I missing here with Outlook? Isn't Outlook supposed to be a step-up and not a step-down from Outlook Express when it comes to efficiency, organization, and time savings? Isn't Outlook supposed to be "better" than Outlook Express for someone who needs some functionality? I was told this is the forum to come to? ? ? Please Help. in utter disbelief, Christine K. . |
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The link I posted, and the particular heading, specifically deals with the
seperation of data, if you cannot see / understand this, you need to think again. OE is a mail application only Outlook is a PIM With respect to Lenoid I dont believe Exchange will give you anything extra, that is not allready available (excluding access from other locations) "Christine K." wrote in message ... Hello DL, Outlook Express may be dead, but Outlook 2007 apparently can't handle something as basic as downloading email into separate email accounts as I described Outlook Express is currently doing to this day. Outlook can't seem to handle my five emails without dumping everything into one inbox, which is what I would have expected from Microsoft if this was 1994 when email was really just starting up. The link to the site you provided in your post does not address any of the specific issues I raised, so why did you provide it? I went to that site before I posted to look specifically for the issues I posted about. If you're not going to read my post and speak toward the issues I raised, with all due respect, what's the point of you posting? I'm sure and I'm hoping there are others out there who know how to help. Thanks anyways, you were allot of help DL. "DL" wrote: OE is now dead, superceeded by WLM, OE doesnt have calander, tasks and other information services. Exchange is not going to do anything that you cannot allready do in Outlook, once you have taken the trouble to configure it. http://www.howto-outlook.com/howto/sortmail.htm Scroll down to the bottom, 'Directly assign.............' "Kristen K." wrote in message ... Hello, Hopefully I can find some help here. I'm currently in utter disbelief with this situation. I just installed Outlook 2007, and I can't believe what a hassle it is. I have been running Outlook Express for the last 12 years. I now have five email accounts, three that are for my business, one for bill pay purposes, and another personal. I thought by now, since 1998 when I first started using Outlook Express, that Microsoft would have developed into Outlook the basics of a good functional email program, something that was a "step-up" from Outlook Express, and so I decided to try Outlook. I have been told that Outlook would give me better organization and efficiency when it comes to my email needs. However so far it looks as if Outlook is waste of time compared to Outlook Express. There appears to be no real efficient and organized way for me to separate my five email addresses and the associated email within Outlook 2007, as I have been able to do in Outlook Express. With Outlook Express I was able to create five separate identities, one for each of my email addresses. I was able to then seamlessly switch back and forth between email addresses in the blink of an eye with no problems. Each identity had its own inbox, outbox, sent folder, and deleted folder. For organization, I could then also create dozens of individual sub-folders and name them accordingly as needed within each of my five identities. Apparently none of this is really possible with Outlook 2007, at least not in any way that is efficient and organized. First, as I started to configure Outlook for my five email addresses, my worst fears were realized. Outlook will only allow me to hit one "send/receive" button, and then all of my email from my five different addresses is dumped into one inbox. What a joke. Five email addresses that have no choice but to share the same inbox, outbox, sent & deleted folders. Who in their right mind would want to have their business email mixed up with their personal email and vice-versa, only to then have to spend the time to sort it out? As I explored a little further, I found out that if I wanted to spend some further time, I would have to set up some kind of "system of rules" for each email address, that would somehow direct my different email into different folders...a further hassle. I was hoping for a better, more organized and efficient email program, only I'm finding out that Outlook Express makes Outlook 2007 look inefficient in comparison. I could see if someone only had one email address, or did not care about organization when it came to many emails coming and going each day, then Outlook might be acceptable, but this is ridiculous. Who in business only has one email address? Who doesn't care about organizing, efficiency, and keeping separation between different email addresses? I'm at a loss to where the benefit is for me to switch to Outlook from Outlook Express, unless I'm missing something here, (which is possible since I'm new to Outlook). Before submitting this post, I started searching this forum as well as on the internet for answers, and was informed that if I wanted to start paying a monthly fee, I could pay for something called an "exchange server or service"? Paying to have me email sorted or organized would be a further rip off. I also found a post that said I can set up separate "profiles", one for each email address, within Outlook that would give me some separation between email accounts, (which started to sound encouraging) but then the post went on to say in that order to switch from one profile to another within Outlook, I would need to actually shut-down and close-out the Outlook program completely each time I wanted to switch between profiles. That isn't efficient and doesn't make sense. So I wanted to see what this forum had to say before going through all that hassle first. Is it unreasonable for someone in business to have five email addresses and want to be able to have some efficiency, separation, and organization with the five email addresses? How could Microsoft have blown it so bad on this one? Of course I am comparing Outlook to Outlook Express where all the issues I've raised don't produce not even a hiccup. So what am I missing here with Outlook? Isn't Outlook supposed to be a step-up and not a step-down from Outlook Express when it comes to efficiency, organization, and time savings? Isn't Outlook supposed to be "better" than Outlook Express for someone who needs some functionality? I was told this is the forum to come to? ? ? Please Help. in utter disbelief, Christine K. . |
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On 3/2/2010 4:22 AM, Kristen K. wrote:
Hello, Hopefully I can find some help here. I’m currently in utter disbelief with this situation. I just installed Outlook 2007, and I can’t believe what a hassle it is. I have been running Outlook Express for the last 12 years. I now have five email accounts, three that are for my business, one for bill pay purposes, and another personal. I thought by now, since 1998 when I first started using Outlook Express, that Microsoft would have developed into Outlook the basics of a good functional email program, something that was a “step-up” from Outlook Express, and so I decided to try Outlook. I have been told that Outlook would give me better organization and efficiency when it comes to my email needs. However so far it looks as if Outlook is waste of time compared to Outlook Express. There appears to be no real efficient and organized way for me to separate my five email addresses and the associated email within Outlook 2007, as I have been able to do in Outlook Express. With Outlook Express I was able to create five separate identities, one for each of my email addresses. I was able to then seamlessly switch back and forth between email addresses in the blink of an eye with no problems. Each identity had its own inbox, outbox, sent folder, and deleted folder. For organization, I could then also create dozens of individual sub-folders and name them accordingly as needed within each of my five identities. Apparently none of this is really possible with Outlook 2007, at least not in any way that is efficient and organized. First, as I started to configure Outlook for my five email addresses, my worst fears were realized. Outlook will only allow me to hit one “send/receive” button, and then all of my email from my five different email addresses is dumped into one inbox. What a joke. Five email addresses that have no choice but to share the same inbox, outbox, sent& deleted folders. Who in their right mind would want to have their business email mixed up with their personal email and vice-versa, only to then have to spend the time to sort it out? As I explored a little further, I found out that if I wanted to spend some further time, I would have to set up some kind of “system of rules” for each email address, that would somehow direct my different email into different folders…..a further hassle. I was hoping for a better, more organized and efficient email program, only I’m finding out that Outlook Express makes Outlook 2007 look inefficient in comparison. I could see if someone only had one email address, or did not care about organization when it came to many emails coming and going each day, then Outlook might be acceptable, but this is ridiculous. Who in business only has one email address? Who doesn’t care about organizing, efficiency, and keeping separation between different email addresses? I’m at a loss to where the benefit is for me to switch to Outlook from Outlook Express, unless I’m missing something here, (which is possible since I’m new to Outlook). Before submitting this post, I started searching this forum as well as on the internet for answers, and was informed that if I wanted to start paying a monthly fee, I could pay for something called an “exchange server or service”? Paying to have me email sorted or organized would be a further rip off. I also found a post that said I can set up separate “profiles”, one for each email address, within Outlook that would give me some separation between email accounts, (which started to sound encouraging) but then the post went on to say in that order to switch from one profile to another within Outlook, I would need to actually shut-down and close-out the Outlook program completely each time I wanted to switch between profiles. That isn’t efficient and doesn’t make sense. So I wanted to see what this forum had to say before going through all that hassle first. Is it unreasonable for someone in business to have five email addresses and want to be able to have some efficiency, separation, and organization with the five email addresses? How could Microsoft have blown it so bad on this one? Of course I am comparing Outlook to Outlook Express where all the issues I’ve raised don't produce not even a hiccup. So what am I missing here with Outlook? Isn’t Outlook supposed to be a step-up and not a step-down from Outlook Express when it comes to efficiency, organization, and time savings? Isn’t Outlook supposed to be “better” than Outlook Express for someone who needs some functionality? I was told this is the forum to come to? ? ? Please Help. in utter disbelief, Christine K. Christine, It's not that bad. ![]() First, please familiarize yourself with: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/287532 While it is true that by default Outlook 2007 dumps everything into one folder, it also supports multiple mail stores, similar to Outlook Express identities. Here is how you can fix this problem. I am assuming you are using POP3 accounts in this case. There are two scenarios possible in your case. 1. You imported your identities from Outlook Express. 2. You re-created everything manually in Outlook 2007. Scenario 1 is easy. Go to Tools - Accounts Settings You should now see all of your accounts defined At the bottom of that window, you will see "Select account delivers new e-mail messages to the following location" For IMAP accounts, that's not change-able and they have the right behavior anyway. For POP3 accounts, there is a "Change Folder" button. 1. Click "Change Folder" 2. Choose the desired delivery folder. By default you will see Archive Folders and Personal Folders. You will want to click on "New Outlook Data File" 3. Instead of Personal Folders, change the name to something more appropriate, such as your e-mail address. That will let you see it at a glance. 4. Click on OK 5. Expand the newly created folder and choose Inbox as your "New E-mail Delivery Location" 6. Click OK and then Close. 7. Right-click on the new Inbox under your mail folders tree and choose "Add to favorites". That will make it easier to see that folder at the top of Mail pane. This takes care of your "everything is dumped into one place" complaint. The next concern will be keeping Sent mail separately. That is actually not strictly necessary as you can use one Sent Items box but sort it so it separates all accounts. Just right-click on the "Arranged By:" column header and set it to "From". Because you separated inbound mail in the previous step, your outbound mail will be automatically stored in that accounts Sent Items folder. However, there is one more thing you need to do and that is to select the correct account to send your mail as. When you reply to a message in an account's mailbox, Outlook will choose by default to use the outbound mail settings configured for that account. However, you can also override that by clicking on the "Account" button under the "Send" button. Outlook 2007 visually tells you which account it will use to send your message in the event that more than one e-mail account can be used. For the sake of completeness, IMAP accounts can be configured to use the account's "sent items" mailbox instead of the default Sent Items box. This does not apply to you but will to some people who will find this message via search later. If you want to make sure the mail remains on the server or if you need to configure advanced settings such as SMTP authentication on POP3 accounts, go to Tools - Account Settings - (choose an account) - Change - More Settings - Advanced and then check the "Leave a copy of messages on the server" in the delivery section. More questions? ![]() -- Leonid S. Knyshov Crashproof Solutions 510-282-1008 Twitter: @wiseleo http://crashproofsolutions.com Microsoft Small Business Specialist Please vote "helpful" if I helped you ![]() |
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Hi Leonid,
Thank you very much for quickly responding with what looks like some good answers. Since I was just setting up Outlook for the first time and getting used to the basics, I was performing your "scenario 2" that is I was creating everything manually. I wanted to see how well Outlook was going to work with my five email addresses before jumping into it with everything. I was hoping I would be able to separate email, (sort email) in the same manner I have been able to in Outlook Express. That is, as it comes in, I would create a folder for that particular person, or topic, or company, and I would store specific email in each persons, each topics, or each company's specific folders. I created a folder "tree" much like how the tree in windows explorer looks. A tree of folders for whatever quantity and names of folders I want to create. I would want to create a separate tree with folders for each of my five email addresses.....I would hope each folder tree has it's own inbox, outbox, sent, deleted, drafts, and then all the custom folder I create and name. Currently, in OE, this is how you set can set it up. It makes things neat, clean and simple when it comes to sorting email. No need to keep hundreds of email in one folder, each email goes into it's own separately created folder. With hundreds of business emails, a folder tree seems to be one of the better ways to organize email, like with Outlook Express Is all this possible, and feasible, in Outlook 2007 Also, I haven't tried it yet, but as another option to the advice you suggested, what about creating separate profiles for each email address? Is that a viable option, or a waste of time? Do you really have to close the Outlook program each time you want to switch profiles? Thanks Leonid, you have been a great help with the information you have provided, sincerely, Christine K. "Leonid S. Knyshov // SBS Expert" wrote: On 3/2/2010 4:22 AM, Kristen K. wrote: Hello, Hopefully I can find some help here. I’m currently in utter disbelief with this situation. I just installed Outlook 2007, and I can’t believe what a hassle it is. I have been running Outlook Express for the last 12 years. I now have five email accounts, three that are for my business, one for bill pay purposes, and another personal. I thought by now, since 1998 when I first started using Outlook Express, that Microsoft would have developed into Outlook the basics of a good functional email program, something that was a “step-up” from Outlook Express, and so I decided to try Outlook. I have been told that Outlook would give me better organization and efficiency when it comes to my email needs. However so far it looks as if Outlook is waste of time compared to Outlook Express. There appears to be no real efficient and organized way for me to separate my five email addresses and the associated email within Outlook 2007, as I have been able to do in Outlook Express. With Outlook Express I was able to create five separate identities, one for each of my email addresses. I was able to then seamlessly switch back and forth between email addresses in the blink of an eye with no problems. Each identity had its own inbox, outbox, sent folder, and deleted folder. For organization, I could then also create dozens of individual sub-folders and name them accordingly as needed within each of my five identities. Apparently none of this is really possible with Outlook 2007, at least not in any way that is efficient and organized. First, as I started to configure Outlook for my five email addresses, my worst fears were realized. Outlook will only allow me to hit one “send/receive” button, and then all of my email from my five different email addresses is dumped into one inbox. What a joke. Five email addresses that have no choice but to share the same inbox, outbox, sent& deleted folders. Who in their right mind would want to have their business email mixed up with their personal email and vice-versa, only to then have to spend the time to sort it out? As I explored a little further, I found out that if I wanted to spend some further time, I would have to set up some kind of “system of rules” for each email address, that would somehow direct my different email into different folders…..a further hassle. I was hoping for a better, more organized and efficient email program, only I’m finding out that Outlook Express makes Outlook 2007 look inefficient in comparison. I could see if someone only had one email address, or did not care about organization when it came to many emails coming and going each day, then Outlook might be acceptable, but this is ridiculous. Who in business only has one email address? Who doesn’t care about organizing, efficiency, and keeping separation between different email addresses? I’m at a loss to where the benefit is for me to switch to Outlook from Outlook Express, unless I’m missing something here, (which is possible since I’m new to Outlook). Before submitting this post, I started searching this forum as well as on the internet for answers, and was informed that if I wanted to start paying a monthly fee, I could pay for something called an “exchange server or service”? Paying to have me email sorted or organized would be a further rip off. I also found a post that said I can set up separate “profiles”, one for each email address, within Outlook that would give me some separation between email accounts, (which started to sound encouraging) but then the post went on to say in that order to switch from one profile to another within Outlook, I would need to actually shut-down and close-out the Outlook program completely each time I wanted to switch between profiles. That isn’t efficient and doesn’t make sense. So I wanted to see what this forum had to say before going through all that hassle first. Is it unreasonable for someone in business to have five email addresses and want to be able to have some efficiency, separation, and organization with the five email addresses? How could Microsoft have blown it so bad on this one? Of course I am comparing Outlook to Outlook Express where all the issues I’ve raised don't produce not even a hiccup. So what am I missing here with Outlook? Isn’t Outlook supposed to be a step-up and not a step-down from Outlook Express when it comes to efficiency, organization, and time savings? Isn’t Outlook supposed to be “better” than Outlook Express for someone who needs some functionality? I was told this is the forum to come to? ? ? Please Help. in utter disbelief, Christine K. Christine, It's not that bad. ![]() First, please familiarize yourself with: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/287532 While it is true that by default Outlook 2007 dumps everything into one folder, it also supports multiple mail stores, similar to Outlook Express identities. Here is how you can fix this problem. I am assuming you are using POP3 accounts in this case. There are two scenarios possible in your case. 1. You imported your identities from Outlook Express. 2. You re-created everything manually in Outlook 2007. Scenario 1 is easy. Go to Tools - Accounts Settings You should now see all of your accounts defined At the bottom of that window, you will see "Select account delivers new e-mail messages to the following location" For IMAP accounts, that's not change-able and they have the right behavior anyway. For POP3 accounts, there is a "Change Folder" button. 1. Click "Change Folder" 2. Choose the desired delivery folder. By default you will see Archive Folders and Personal Folders. You will want to click on "New Outlook Data File" 3. Instead of Personal Folders, change the name to something more appropriate, such as your e-mail address. That will let you see it at a glance. 4. Click on OK 5. Expand the newly created folder and choose Inbox as your "New E-mail Delivery Location" 6. Click OK and then Close. 7. Right-click on the new Inbox under your mail folders tree and choose "Add to favorites". That will make it easier to see that folder at the top of Mail pane. This takes care of your "everything is dumped into one place" complaint. The next concern will be keeping Sent mail separately. That is actually not strictly necessary as you can use one Sent Items box but sort it so it separates all accounts. Just right-click on the "Arranged By:" column header and set it to "From". Because you separated inbound mail in the previous step, your outbound mail will be automatically stored in that accounts Sent Items folder. However, there is one more thing you need to do and that is to select the correct account to send your mail as. When you reply to a message in an account's mailbox, Outlook will choose by default to use the outbound mail settings configured for that account. However, you can also override that by clicking on the "Account" button under the "Send" button. Outlook 2007 visually tells you which account it will use to send your message in the event that more than one e-mail account can be used. For the sake of completeness, IMAP accounts can be configured to use the account's "sent items" mailbox instead of the default Sent Items box. This does not apply to you but will to some people who will find this message via search later. If you want to make sure the mail remains on the server or if you need to configure advanced settings such as SMTP authentication on POP3 accounts, go to Tools - Account Settings - (choose an account) - Change - More Settings - Advanced and then check the "Leave a copy of messages on the server" in the delivery section. More questions? ![]() -- Leonid S. Knyshov Crashproof Solutions 510-282-1008 Twitter: @wiseleo http://crashproofsolutions.com Microsoft Small Business Specialist Please vote "helpful" if I helped you ![]() . |
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DL pretty much gave you the answer. Check the link that he supplied and follow the instructions. What you like to achieve as you did in OE is very possible with Outlook. Exchange Server will not give you any advantage over Outlook. Do you have Exchange stand alone or do you have it with SBS or do you know at all what it is all about and capable of ? -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "Christine K." wrote in message ... Hi Leonid, Thank you very much for quickly responding with what looks like some good answers. Since I was just setting up Outlook for the first time and getting used to the basics, I was performing your "scenario 2" that is I was creating everything manually. I wanted to see how well Outlook was going to work with my five email addresses before jumping into it with everything. I was hoping I would be able to separate email, (sort email) in the same manner I have been able to in Outlook Express. That is, as it comes in, I would create a folder for that particular person, or topic, or company, and I would store specific email in each persons, each topics, or each company's specific folders. I created a folder "tree" much like how the tree in windows explorer looks. A tree of folders for whatever quantity and names of folders I want to create. I would want to create a separate tree with folders for each of my five email addresses.....I would hope each folder tree has it's own inbox, outbox, sent, deleted, drafts, and then all the custom folder I create and name. Currently, in OE, this is how you set can set it up. It makes things neat, clean and simple when it comes to sorting email. No need to keep hundreds of email in one folder, each email goes into it's own separately created folder. With hundreds of business emails, a folder tree seems to be one of the better ways to organize email, like with Outlook Express Is all this possible, and feasible, in Outlook 2007 Also, I haven't tried it yet, but as another option to the advice you suggested, what about creating separate profiles for each email address? Is that a viable option, or a waste of time? Do you really have to close the Outlook program each time you want to switch profiles? Thanks Leonid, you have been a great help with the information you have provided, sincerely, Christine K. "Leonid S. Knyshov // SBS Expert" wrote: On 3/2/2010 4:22 AM, Kristen K. wrote: Hello, Hopefully I can find some help here. I’m currently in utter disbelief with this situation. I just installed Outlook 2007, and I can’t believe what a hassle it is. I have been running Outlook Express for the last 12 years. I now have five email accounts, three that are for my business, one for bill pay purposes, and another personal. I thought by now, since 1998 when I first started using Outlook Express, that Microsoft would have developed into Outlook the basics of a good functional email program, something that was a “step-up” from Outlook Express, and so I decided to try Outlook. I have been told that Outlook would give me better organization and efficiency when it comes to my email needs. However so far it looks as if Outlook is waste of time compared to Outlook Express. There appears to be no real efficient and organized way for me to separate my five email addresses and the associated email within Outlook 2007, as I have been able to do in Outlook Express. With Outlook Express I was able to create five separate identities, one for each of my email addresses. I was able to then seamlessly switch back and forth between email addresses in the blink of an eye with no problems. Each identity had its own inbox, outbox, sent folder, and deleted folder. For organization, I could then also create dozens of individual sub-folders and name them accordingly as needed within each of my five identities. Apparently none of this is really possible with Outlook 2007, at least not in any way that is efficient and organized. First, as I started to configure Outlook for my five email addresses, my worst fears were realized. Outlook will only allow me to hit one “send/receive” button, and then all of my email from my five different email addresses is dumped into one inbox. What a joke. Five email addresses that have no choice but to share the same inbox, outbox, sent& deleted folders. Who in their right mind would want to have their business email mixed up with their personal email and vice-versa, only to then have to spend the time to sort it out? As I explored a little further, I found out that if I wanted to spend some further time, I would have to set up some kind of “system of rules” for each email address, that would somehow direct my different email into different folders…..a further hassle. I was hoping for a better, more organized and efficient email program, only I’m finding out that Outlook Express makes Outlook 2007 look inefficient in comparison. I could see if someone only had one email address, or did not care about organization when it came to many emails coming and going each day, then Outlook might be acceptable, but this is ridiculous. Who in business only has one email address? Who doesn’t care about organizing, efficiency, and keeping separation between different email addresses? I’m at a loss to where the benefit is for me to switch to Outlook from Outlook Express, unless I’m missing something here, (which is possible since I’m new to Outlook). Before submitting this post, I started searching this forum as well as on the internet for answers, and was informed that if I wanted to start paying a monthly fee, I could pay for something called an “exchange server or service”? Paying to have me email sorted or organized would be a further rip off. I also found a post that said I can set up separate “profiles”, one for each email address, within Outlook that would give me some separation between email accounts, (which started to sound encouraging) but then the post went on to say in that order to switch from one profile to another within Outlook, I would need to actually shut-down and close-out the Outlook program completely each time I wanted to switch between profiles. That isn’t efficient and doesn’t make sense. So I wanted to see what this forum had to say before going through all that hassle first. Is it unreasonable for someone in business to have five email addresses and want to be able to have some efficiency, separation, and organization with the five email addresses? How could Microsoft have blown it so bad on this one? Of course I am comparing Outlook to Outlook Express where all the issues I’ve raised don't produce not even a hiccup. So what am I missing here with Outlook? Isn’t Outlook supposed to be a step-up and not a step-down from Outlook Express when it comes to efficiency, organization, and time savings? Isn’t Outlook supposed to be “better” than Outlook Express for someone who needs some functionality? I was told this is the forum to come to? ? ? Please Help. in utter disbelief, Christine K. Christine, It's not that bad. ![]() First, please familiarize yourself with: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/287532 While it is true that by default Outlook 2007 dumps everything into one folder, it also supports multiple mail stores, similar to Outlook Express identities. Here is how you can fix this problem. I am assuming you are using POP3 accounts in this case. There are two scenarios possible in your case. 1. You imported your identities from Outlook Express. 2. You re-created everything manually in Outlook 2007. Scenario 1 is easy. Go to Tools - Accounts Settings You should now see all of your accounts defined At the bottom of that window, you will see "Select account delivers new e-mail messages to the following location" For IMAP accounts, that's not change-able and they have the right behavior anyway. For POP3 accounts, there is a "Change Folder" button. 1. Click "Change Folder" 2. Choose the desired delivery folder. By default you will see Archive Folders and Personal Folders. You will want to click on "New Outlook Data File" 3. Instead of Personal Folders, change the name to something more appropriate, such as your e-mail address. That will let you see it at a glance. 4. Click on OK 5. Expand the newly created folder and choose Inbox as your "New E-mail Delivery Location" 6. Click OK and then Close. 7. Right-click on the new Inbox under your mail folders tree and choose "Add to favorites". That will make it easier to see that folder at the top of Mail pane. This takes care of your "everything is dumped into one place" complaint. The next concern will be keeping Sent mail separately. That is actually not strictly necessary as you can use one Sent Items box but sort it so it separates all accounts. Just right-click on the "Arranged By:" column header and set it to "From". Because you separated inbound mail in the previous step, your outbound mail will be automatically stored in that accounts Sent Items folder. However, there is one more thing you need to do and that is to select the correct account to send your mail as. When you reply to a message in an account's mailbox, Outlook will choose by default to use the outbound mail settings configured for that account. However, you can also override that by clicking on the "Account" button under the "Send" button. Outlook 2007 visually tells you which account it will use to send your message in the event that more than one e-mail account can be used. For the sake of completeness, IMAP accounts can be configured to use the account's "sent items" mailbox instead of the default Sent Items box. This does not apply to you but will to some people who will find this message via search later. If you want to make sure the mail remains on the server or if you need to configure advanced settings such as SMTP authentication on POP3 accounts, go to Tools - Account Settings - (choose an account) - Change - More Settings - Advanced and then check the "Leave a copy of messages on the server" in the delivery section. More questions? ![]() -- Leonid S. 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On 3/2/2010 6:49 AM, Christine K. wrote:
Hi Leonid, Thank you very much for quickly responding with what looks like some good answers. Since I was just setting up Outlook for the first time and getting used to the basics, I was performing your "scenario 2" that is I was creating everything manually. I wanted to see how well Outlook was going to work with my five email addresses before jumping into it with everything. I was hoping I would be able to separate email, (sort email) in the same manner I have been able to in Outlook Express. That is, as it comes in, I would create a folder for that particular person, or topic, or company, and I would store specific email in each persons, each topics, or each company's specific folders. I created a folder "tree" much like how the tree in windows explorer looks. A tree of folders for whatever quantity and names of folders I want to create. I would want to create a separate tree with folders for each of my five email addresses.....I would hope each folder tree has it's own inbox, outbox, sent, deleted, drafts, and then all the custom folder I create and name. Currently, in OE, this is how you set can set it up. It makes things neat, clean and simple when it comes to sorting email. No need to keep hundreds of email in one folder, each email goes into it's own separately created folder. With hundreds of business emails, a folder tree seems to be one of the better ways to organize email, like with Outlook Express Is all this possible, and feasible, in Outlook 2007 Also, I haven't tried it yet, but as another option to the advice you suggested, what about creating separate profiles for each email address? Is that a viable option, or a waste of time? Do you really have to close the Outlook program each time you want to switch profiles? Thanks Leonid, you have been a great help with the information you have provided, sincerely, Christine K. I wrote a huge article on doing it manually yesterday only to basically kick myself when the standard import process worked much better and pulled in all messages, folders etc. I've tested this pretty extensively. Trust the wizards... http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/286116 You may need to switch between identities to complete this. Since you are new to the product, I think you will benefit from reading this site: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/ou...647191033.aspx and from taking free video training from http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...654581033.aspx -- Leonid S. Knyshov Crashproof Solutions 510-282-1008 Twitter: @wiseleo http://crashproofsolutions.com Microsoft Small Business Specialist Please vote "helpful" if I helped you ![]() |
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I've been told that a better solution is to export Outlook Express.
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If you import OE msgs from OL the modified dates will all be set to the
Import date, which can create havoc with any Archive "Leonid S. Knyshov // SBS Expert" wrote in message ... I've been told that a better solution is to export Outlook Express. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/196347 -- Leonid S. Knyshov Crashproof Solutions 510-282-1008 Twitter: @wiseleo http://crashproofsolutions.com Microsoft Small Business Specialist Please vote "helpful" if I helped you ![]() |
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