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One thing I REALLY HATE about Outlook and Office.....



 
 
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  #1  
Old June 23rd 08, 09:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
ChinaLamb
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Default One thing I REALLY HATE about Outlook and Office.....

However, it IS 2008...

One would think that Microsoft could find a way to fix this issue, or at
least shut off the "Save" button and require a "Save As"...

To have hit "Save" and have it disappear is so disheartening.

/cl

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
"ChinaLamb" wrote in message
...
I really hate the fact that I open an email, open the attachment (word or
Publisher) , then spend 4 hours editing a document someone sent me.

I press save, and close the document.

I open Word or Publisher again to work on the file, and It is not in the
recent documents list.

Then I remember that it was an attachment in an email - Open that
attachment
again, but what I get is the un-edited version.

The version that I worked on for 4 hours is GONE!

This happens in Outlook, as well as Live mail.

Really sucks to be me right now.

Any way to get these documents back?

/cl




They are possibly in your Temp or Temp/internet folders......BTW, this
happens with ALL email clients, not just MS ones....

  #2  
Old June 23rd 08, 12:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Diane Poremsky {MVP}
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Posts: 1,260
Default One thing I REALLY HATE about Outlook and Office.....

No, they don't need it changed to a Save as button because it is possible to
save the updates to the attachment - plus it would be difficult for the
application to detect the document was opened from an email message.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Outlook Tips:
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** Please include your Outlook version, Account type, and Windows Version
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"ChinaLamb" wrote in message
...
However, it IS 2008...

One would think that Microsoft could find a way to fix this issue, or at
least shut off the "Save" button and require a "Save As"...

To have hit "Save" and have it disappear is so disheartening.

/cl

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
"ChinaLamb" wrote in message
...
I really hate the fact that I open an email, open the attachment (word or
Publisher) , then spend 4 hours editing a document someone sent me.

I press save, and close the document.

I open Word or Publisher again to work on the file, and It is not in the
recent documents list.

Then I remember that it was an attachment in an email - Open that
attachment
again, but what I get is the un-edited version.

The version that I worked on for 4 hours is GONE!

This happens in Outlook, as well as Live mail.

Really sucks to be me right now.

Any way to get these documents back?

/cl




They are possibly in your Temp or Temp/internet folders......BTW, this
happens with ALL email clients, not just MS ones....

  #3  
Old June 24th 08, 02:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
ChinaLamb
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Posts: 26
Default One thing I REALLY HATE about Outlook and Office.....

The main problem is that most people don't open emails anymore, they use the
preview pane...

Ideally, that functionality should also work when viewing an email from the
preview pane.



"Diane Poremsky {MVP}" wrote in message
...
No, they don't need it changed to a Save as button because it is possible
to save the updates to the attachment - plus it would be difficult for the
application to detect the document was opened from an email message.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Outlook Tips:
http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:


** Please include your Outlook version, Account type, and Windows Version
when requesting assistance **




"ChinaLamb" wrote in message
...
However, it IS 2008...

One would think that Microsoft could find a way to fix this issue, or at
least shut off the "Save" button and require a "Save As"...

To have hit "Save" and have it disappear is so disheartening.

/cl

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
"ChinaLamb" wrote in message
...
I really hate the fact that I open an email, open the attachment (word
or
Publisher) , then spend 4 hours editing a document someone sent me.

I press save, and close the document.

I open Word or Publisher again to work on the file, and It is not in
the
recent documents list.

Then I remember that it was an attachment in an email - Open that
attachment
again, but what I get is the un-edited version.

The version that I worked on for 4 hours is GONE!

This happens in Outlook, as well as Live mail.

Really sucks to be me right now.

Any way to get these documents back?

/cl




They are possibly in your Temp or Temp/internet folders......BTW, this
happens with ALL email clients, not just MS ones....


  #4  
Old June 24th 08, 04:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Diane Poremsky {MVP}
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Posts: 1,260
Default One thing I REALLY HATE about Outlook and Office.....

If users don't change messages in preview while the attachment is open it
will be saved back to the original message. Users need to learn to use the
Save as button, not Save. You can also move the securetemp folder so its
easier to find the message.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Outlook Tips:
http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:


** Please include your Outlook version, Account type, and Windows Version
when requesting assistance **




"ChinaLamb" wrote in message
...
The main problem is that most people don't open emails anymore, they use
the preview pane...

Ideally, that functionality should also work when viewing an email from
the preview pane.



"Diane Poremsky {MVP}" wrote in message
...
No, they don't need it changed to a Save as button because it is possible
to save the updates to the attachment - plus it would be difficult for
the application to detect the document was opened from an email message.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks?
http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Outlook Tips:
http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:


** Please include your Outlook version, Account type, and Windows Version
when requesting assistance **




"ChinaLamb" wrote in message
...
However, it IS 2008...

One would think that Microsoft could find a way to fix this issue, or at
least shut off the "Save" button and require a "Save As"...

To have hit "Save" and have it disappear is so disheartening.

/cl

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
"ChinaLamb" wrote in message
...
I really hate the fact that I open an email, open the attachment (word
or
Publisher) , then spend 4 hours editing a document someone sent me.

I press save, and close the document.

I open Word or Publisher again to work on the file, and It is not in
the
recent documents list.

Then I remember that it was an attachment in an email - Open that
attachment
again, but what I get is the un-edited version.

The version that I worked on for 4 hours is GONE!

This happens in Outlook, as well as Live mail.

Really sucks to be me right now.

Any way to get these documents back?

/cl




They are possibly in your Temp or Temp/internet folders......BTW, this
happens with ALL email clients, not just MS ones....


  #5  
Old June 24th 08, 03:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
ChinaLamb
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Posts: 26
Default One thing I REALLY HATE about Outlook and Office.....

Microsoft wanting the user to learn to do it the way the software needs you
to do it is one of the reasons that MAC is gaining in popularity among all
my friends.

It would be nice if little things like this could be fixed. Easy said from
a person that is not on their programming staff....


"Diane Poremsky {MVP}" wrote in message
...
If users don't change messages in preview while the attachment is open it
will be saved back to the original message. Users need to learn to use the
Save as button, not Save. You can also move the securetemp folder so its
easier to find the message.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Outlook Tips:
http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:


** Please include your Outlook version, Account type, and Windows Version
when requesting assistance **




"ChinaLamb" wrote in message
...
The main problem is that most people don't open emails anymore, they use
the preview pane...

Ideally, that functionality should also work when viewing an email from
the preview pane.



"Diane Poremsky {MVP}" wrote in message
...
No, they don't need it changed to a Save as button because it is
possible to save the updates to the attachment - plus it would be
difficult for the application to detect the document was opened from an
email message.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks?
http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Outlook Tips:
http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:


** Please include your Outlook version, Account type, and Windows
Version when requesting assistance **




"ChinaLamb" wrote in message
...
However, it IS 2008...

One would think that Microsoft could find a way to fix this issue, or
at least shut off the "Save" button and require a "Save As"...

To have hit "Save" and have it disappear is so disheartening.

/cl

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
"ChinaLamb" wrote in message
...
I really hate the fact that I open an email, open the attachment (word
or
Publisher) , then spend 4 hours editing a document someone sent me.

I press save, and close the document.

I open Word or Publisher again to work on the file, and It is not in
the
recent documents list.

Then I remember that it was an attachment in an email - Open that
attachment
again, but what I get is the un-edited version.

The version that I worked on for 4 hours is GONE!

This happens in Outlook, as well as Live mail.

Really sucks to be me right now.

Any way to get these documents back?

/cl




They are possibly in your Temp or Temp/internet folders......BTW, this
happens with ALL email clients, not just MS ones....


  #6  
Old June 24th 08, 05:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Diane Poremsky {MVP}
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Posts: 1,260
Default One thing I REALLY HATE about Outlook and Office.....

There is nothing to fix - it's a user training problem. Not everyone wants
to edit attachments and have the changes saved to the original attachment on
the message and most people know to either save the attachment first or use
Save as.

I don't think the Mac will save changes back to the original attachment
(I'll have to double check) - I know none of the applications I have
installed on the Mac will detect that I opened an email attachment and will
tell me I need to use Save as. I have a Mac and I can guarantee you it's not
an end all, be all. It sucks in its own way.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Outlook Tips:
http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:


** Please include your Outlook version, Account type, and Windows Version
when requesting assistance **




"ChinaLamb" wrote in message
...
Microsoft wanting the user to learn to do it the way the software needs
you to do it is one of the reasons that MAC is gaining in popularity among
all my friends.

It would be nice if little things like this could be fixed. Easy said
from a person that is not on their programming staff....


"Diane Poremsky {MVP}" wrote in message
...
If users don't change messages in preview while the attachment is open it
will be saved back to the original message. Users need to learn to use
the Save as button, not Save. You can also move the securetemp folder so
its easier to find the message.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks?
http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Outlook Tips:
http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:


** Please include your Outlook version, Account type, and Windows Version
when requesting assistance **




"ChinaLamb" wrote in message
...
The main problem is that most people don't open emails anymore, they use
the preview pane...

Ideally, that functionality should also work when viewing an email from
the preview pane.



"Diane Poremsky {MVP}" wrote in message
...
No, they don't need it changed to a Save as button because it is
possible to save the updates to the attachment - plus it would be
difficult for the application to detect the document was opened from an
email message.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks?
http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Outlook Tips:
http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:


** Please include your Outlook version, Account type, and Windows
Version when requesting assistance **




"ChinaLamb" wrote in message
...
However, it IS 2008...

One would think that Microsoft could find a way to fix this issue, or
at least shut off the "Save" button and require a "Save As"...

To have hit "Save" and have it disappear is so disheartening.

/cl

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
"ChinaLamb" wrote in message
...
I really hate the fact that I open an email, open the attachment
(word or
Publisher) , then spend 4 hours editing a document someone sent me.

I press save, and close the document.

I open Word or Publisher again to work on the file, and It is not in
the
recent documents list.

Then I remember that it was an attachment in an email - Open that
attachment
again, but what I get is the un-edited version.

The version that I worked on for 4 hours is GONE!

This happens in Outlook, as well as Live mail.

Really sucks to be me right now.

Any way to get these documents back?

/cl




They are possibly in your Temp or Temp/internet folders......BTW,
this happens with ALL email clients, not just MS ones....


 




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