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  #1  
Old May 18th 07, 02:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Charles W Davis
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Default Outlook Distribution List - scroll wheel

Outlook 2007, Windows Vista Ultimate. Distribution lists.

What happened to the scroll wheel function when a distribution list is open?
Is there a setting?

What happened to the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+W to update the distribution
list from contacts?

What happened to the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+A to save and close?


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  #2  
Old May 19th 07, 12:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
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Default Outlook Distribution List - scroll wheel

You need to understand that DL's have been out of the development cycle for
years, have never worked as designed, and will get worse with each
successive version until, finally, everyone stops using them.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Charles W Davis" wrote in message
...
Outlook 2007, Windows Vista Ultimate. Distribution lists.

What happened to the scroll wheel function when a distribution list is
open? Is there a setting?

What happened to the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+W to update the distribution
list from contacts?

What happened to the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+A to save and close?



  #3  
Old May 19th 07, 02:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Charles W Davis
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Default Outlook Distribution List - scroll wheel

If they have truly been "out of the development cycle," how did these
changes get made? Some programmer had to expend some time to accomplish the
removal of these functions. Furthermore, some programmer worked hours to add
the "ribbon" to the Distribution List Form. Distribution lists have worked
for me in every release since Office 97.

I know that I might look at categories. However, I have 1,500 addresses in
15 distribution lists that I have used for since 1998. h

I will live with moving the mouse to the scroll bar, hunting for the member,
then again to the Select Members, then to Update Now icon...
"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
You need to understand that DL's have been out of the development cycle
for years, have never worked as designed, and will get worse with each
successive version until, finally, everyone stops using them.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Charles W Davis" wrote in message
...
Outlook 2007, Windows Vista Ultimate. Distribution lists.

What happened to the scroll wheel function when a distribution list is
open? Is there a setting?

What happened to the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+W to update the distribution
list from contacts?

What happened to the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+A to save and close?




  #4  
Old May 19th 07, 04:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
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Default Outlook Distribution List - scroll wheel

None of what you report can be reproduced. I suspect none of these so called
changes were deliberate, if they even exist. They are far more likely the
result of neglect.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Charles W Davis" wrote in message
...
If they have truly been "out of the development cycle," how did these
changes get made? Some programmer had to expend some time to accomplish
the removal of these functions. Furthermore, some programmer worked hours
to add the "ribbon" to the Distribution List Form. Distribution lists have
worked for me in every release since Office 97.

I know that I might look at categories. However, I have 1,500 addresses in
15 distribution lists that I have used for since 1998. h

I will live with moving the mouse to the scroll bar, hunting for the
member, then again to the Select Members, then to Update Now icon...
"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
You need to understand that DL's have been out of the development cycle
for years, have never worked as designed, and will get worse with each
successive version until, finally, everyone stops using them.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Charles W Davis" wrote in message
...
Outlook 2007, Windows Vista Ultimate. Distribution lists.

What happened to the scroll wheel function when a distribution list is
open? Is there a setting?

What happened to the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+W to update the distribution
list from contacts?

What happened to the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+A to save and close?





  #5  
Old June 2nd 07, 05:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Charles W Davis
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Default Outlook Distribution List - scroll wheel

Russ,

Take a look at this pdf: http://www.anthemwebs.com/images/russ.pdf
It shows an image of the top of an Outlook 2003 Distribution List and an
Outlook 2007 Distribution List. Now tell me again that the "so called
changes..." don't exist and are the simple "result of neglect."

I can understand that you may not have a Trackball Explorer and can't
reproduce the inability to scroll.
"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
None of what you report can be reproduced. I suspect none of these so
called changes were deliberate, if they even exist. They are far more
likely the result of neglect.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Charles W Davis" wrote in message
...
If they have truly been "out of the development cycle," how did these
changes get made? Some programmer had to expend some time to accomplish
the removal of these functions. Furthermore, some programmer worked hours
to add the "ribbon" to the Distribution List Form. Distribution lists
have worked for me in every release since Office 97.

I know that I might look at categories. However, I have 1,500 addresses
in 15 distribution lists that I have used for since 1998. h

I will live with moving the mouse to the scroll bar, hunting for the
member, then again to the Select Members, then to Update Now icon...
"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
You need to understand that DL's have been out of the development cycle
for years, have never worked as designed, and will get worse with each
successive version until, finally, everyone stops using them.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Charles W Davis" wrote in message
...
Outlook 2007, Windows Vista Ultimate. Distribution lists.

What happened to the scroll wheel function when a distribution list is
open? Is there a setting?

What happened to the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+W to update the
distribution list from contacts?

What happened to the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+A to save and close?






  #6  
Old June 2nd 07, 07:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
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Posts: 9,348
Default Outlook Distribution List - scroll wheel

I'm sure they just tried to slap the ribbon on an old interface that was not
otherwise changed and that now works even more poorly than it did before.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Charles W Davis" wrote in message
...
Russ,

Take a look at this pdf: http://www.anthemwebs.com/images/russ.pdf
It shows an image of the top of an Outlook 2003 Distribution List and an
Outlook 2007 Distribution List. Now tell me again that the "so called
changes..." don't exist and are the simple "result of neglect."

I can understand that you may not have a Trackball Explorer and can't
reproduce the inability to scroll.
"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
None of what you report can be reproduced. I suspect none of these so
called changes were deliberate, if they even exist. They are far more
likely the result of neglect.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Charles W Davis" wrote in message
...
If they have truly been "out of the development cycle," how did these
changes get made? Some programmer had to expend some time to accomplish
the removal of these functions. Furthermore, some programmer worked
hours to add the "ribbon" to the Distribution List Form. Distribution
lists have worked for me in every release since Office 97.

I know that I might look at categories. However, I have 1,500 addresses
in 15 distribution lists that I have used for since 1998. h

I will live with moving the mouse to the scroll bar, hunting for the
member, then again to the Select Members, then to Update Now icon...
"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
You need to understand that DL's have been out of the development cycle
for years, have never worked as designed, and will get worse with each
successive version until, finally, everyone stops using them.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Charles W Davis" wrote in message
...
Outlook 2007, Windows Vista Ultimate. Distribution lists.

What happened to the scroll wheel function when a distribution list is
open? Is there a setting?

What happened to the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+W to update the
distribution list from contacts?

What happened to the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+A to save and close?








  #7  
Old June 2nd 07, 07:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Brian Tillman
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Default Outlook Distribution List - scroll wheel

Charles W Davis wrote:

Take a look at this pdf: http://www.anthemwebs.com/images/russ.pdf
It shows an image of the top of an Outlook 2003 Distribution List and
an Outlook 2007 Distribution List. Now tell me again that the "so
called changes..." don't exist and are the simple "result of neglect."


The changes shown in the pictures you supply are GUI changes and have
nothing to do with the functioning of the DLs themselves.

However, I just compared OL 2003 and OL 2007. When a DL is open, ALT+F4 or
ALTFC is Close for both versions and you'll be asked if you want to save
the changes.. ALT+W is Update Now for OL 2003 and ALTHU is Update Now for
OL 2007. Save and Close is ALTHAV in OL 2007 and ALT+S in OL 2003.
You're correct for the mouse wheel. It is available in OL 2003 for an open
DL but not for OL 2007, or at least that's the way it is for me.
--
Brian Tillman

  #8  
Old June 2nd 07, 11:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Charles W Davis
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Posts: 132
Default Outlook Distribution List - scroll wheel

Thank you Brian. Especially the ALTHU for Update Now, and the ALTHAV
for Save & Close. It is interesting that since nothing happens when ALT+W
and ALT+S are pressed, they could have left well enough alone. Certainly
took a bit of programmer activity to accomplish that. I started programming
on an IBM 705 Data Processing Machine in 1957 and worked in the industry
until I retired from IBM.
"Brian Tillman" wrote in message
...
Charles W Davis wrote:

Take a look at this pdf: http://www.anthemwebs.com/images/russ.pdf
It shows an image of the top of an Outlook 2003 Distribution List and
an Outlook 2007 Distribution List. Now tell me again that the "so
called changes..." don't exist and are the simple "result of neglect."


The changes shown in the pictures you supply are GUI changes and have
nothing to do with the functioning of the DLs themselves.

However, I just compared OL 2003 and OL 2007. When a DL is open, ALT+F4
or ALTFC is Close for both versions and you'll be asked if you want to
save the changes.. ALT+W is Update Now for OL 2003 and ALTHU is Update
Now for OL 2007. Save and Close is ALTHAV in OL 2007 and ALT+S in OL
2003. You're correct for the mouse wheel. It is available in OL 2003 for
an open DL but not for OL 2007, or at least that's the way it is for me.
--
Brian Tillman


 




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