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  #1  
Old January 21st 09, 09:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general,microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
K. Orland
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Default Scanning Email With An Anti-Virus Program

That's a question I wouldn't want to answer on their behalf.

I also think another issue in the email scanning question/problem/discussion
is a direct result of so many users polling for mail far too frequently to
allow AV to adequately perform its task. Since the real time scanner would
catch whatever it's updated for, why scan email and risk send/receive
problems?

In addition, actively scanning incoming and outgoing email forces AV to act
as a proxy between the mail server and Outlook which adds another step into
the process. The more complicated you make something the more errors you are
likely to incur.

--
Kathleen Orland - MVP Outlook
Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
http://www.howto-outlook.com/



"D. Spencer Hines" wrote:

Thank you kindly...

That's a succinct, intelligent answer.

Is anti-virus scanning of e-mail in fact done on ALL the MSN servers -- so
that doing it on the client is redundant?
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...

If anything, WLM is less likely to have problems with e-mail scanning than
OE. Its message store is much more robust than OE's.

And many people do use e-mail scanning without any problems.

But the issue boils down to 2 things.

#1) Anti-virus scanning of e-mail ON THE CLIENT during send/receive does
NOT provide any more security than the normal background anti-virus
scanning that occurs as files are opened.

#2) Anti-virus scanning of e-mail ON THE CLIENT during send/receive does
SOMETIMES cause problems. It may cause the Send/Receive to fail or it may
lead to corruption of the message store.

Taking 1 and 2 together leads to the conclusion that e-mail scanning
doesn't make any sense ON THE CLIENT during send/receive.

It does make a lot of sense ON THE MAIL SERVER where it works well.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...


People keep saying we must stop scanning email with an anti-virus
program -- both incoming and outgoing.

I have been scanning my email with an anti-virus program for years --
currently Norton Internet Security.

No Problems At All With Outlook Express -- nor with Outlook.

And the programs doesn't run slower either.

NOW...

Why can't the folks who design and develop Windows Live Mail be smart
enough to design a program for us that has the same robust, flexible
nature as OE?

Why have they designed a program that is so ruddy weak and fragile it
can't interact with a program that scans incoming and outgoing emails?

Because they are dumber and less technically competent than the Good
Folks who designed Outlook Express?
--
D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote in message
...

Make sure your antivirus is not configured to scan email. See
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)




  #2  
Old January 21st 09, 10:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general,microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
D. Spencer Hines
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Default Scanning Email With An Anti-Virus Program

Yes...

Good Points All.

But if MSN [or some other ISP] is NOT doing the scanning at the server --
because of some screw up by a careless technician on a weekend or holiday --
then I want to be doing it at the client.

And I never know when that technician is going to screw up...

So, better to scan all the time.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"K. Orland" wrote in message
news
That's a question I wouldn't want to answer on their behalf.

I also think another issue in the email scanning
question/problem/discussion
is a direct result of so many users polling for mail far too frequently to
allow AV to adequately perform its task. Since the real time scanner would
catch whatever it's updated for, why scan email and risk send/receive
problems?

In addition, actively scanning incoming and outgoing email forces AV to
act
as a proxy between the mail server and Outlook which adds another step
into
the process. The more complicated you make something the more errors you
are
likely to incur.

--
Kathleen Orland - MVP Outlook
Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
http://www.howto-outlook.com/

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote:

Thank you kindly...

That's a succinct, intelligent answer.

Is anti-virus scanning of e-mail in fact done on ALL the MSN servers --
so
that doing it on the client is redundant?
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...

If anything, WLM is less likely to have problems with e-mail scanning
than
OE. Its message store is much more robust than OE's.

And many people do use e-mail scanning without any problems.

But the issue boils down to 2 things.

#1) Anti-virus scanning of e-mail ON THE CLIENT during send/receive
does
NOT provide any more security than the normal background anti-virus
scanning that occurs as files are opened.

#2) Anti-virus scanning of e-mail ON THE CLIENT during send/receive
does
SOMETIMES cause problems. It may cause the Send/Receive to fail or it
may
lead to corruption of the message store.

Taking 1 and 2 together leads to the conclusion that e-mail scanning
doesn't make any sense ON THE CLIENT during send/receive.

It does make a lot of sense ON THE MAIL SERVER where it works well.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...


People keep saying we must stop scanning email with an anti-virus
program -- both incoming and outgoing.

I have been scanning my email with an anti-virus program for years --
currently Norton Internet Security.

No Problems At All With Outlook Express -- nor with Outlook.

And the programs doesn't run slower either.

NOW...

Why can't the folks who design and develop Windows Live Mail be smart
enough to design a program for us that has the same robust, flexible
nature as OE?

Why have they designed a program that is so ruddy weak and fragile it
can't interact with a program that scans incoming and outgoing emails?

Because they are dumber and less technically competent than the Good
Folks who designed Outlook Express?
--
D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote in message
...

Make sure your antivirus is not configured to scan email. See
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)



  #3  
Old January 22nd 09, 01:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general,microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
Peter Foldes[_2_]
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Default Scanning Email With An Anti-Virus Program

You were doing the MS Knowledge Base game a few years back. Now you are doing this .
Troll and always will be a troll

--
Peter

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"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
Yes...

Good Points All.

But if MSN [or some other ISP] is NOT doing the scanning at the server -- because
of some screw up by a careless technician on a weekend or holiday -- then I want
to be doing it at the client.

And I never know when that technician is going to screw up...

So, better to scan all the time.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"K. Orland" wrote in message
news
That's a question I wouldn't want to answer on their behalf.

I also think another issue in the email scanning question/problem/discussion
is a direct result of so many users polling for mail far too frequently to
allow AV to adequately perform its task. Since the real time scanner would
catch whatever it's updated for, why scan email and risk send/receive
problems?

In addition, actively scanning incoming and outgoing email forces AV to act
as a proxy between the mail server and Outlook which adds another step into
the process. The more complicated you make something the more errors you are
likely to incur.

--
Kathleen Orland - MVP Outlook
Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
http://www.howto-outlook.com/

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote:

Thank you kindly...

That's a succinct, intelligent answer.

Is anti-virus scanning of e-mail in fact done on ALL the MSN servers -- so
that doing it on the client is redundant?
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...

If anything, WLM is less likely to have problems with e-mail scanning than
OE. Its message store is much more robust than OE's.

And many people do use e-mail scanning without any problems.

But the issue boils down to 2 things.

#1) Anti-virus scanning of e-mail ON THE CLIENT during send/receive does
NOT provide any more security than the normal background anti-virus
scanning that occurs as files are opened.

#2) Anti-virus scanning of e-mail ON THE CLIENT during send/receive does
SOMETIMES cause problems. It may cause the Send/Receive to fail or it may
lead to corruption of the message store.

Taking 1 and 2 together leads to the conclusion that e-mail scanning
doesn't make any sense ON THE CLIENT during send/receive.

It does make a lot of sense ON THE MAIL SERVER where it works well.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...

People keep saying we must stop scanning email with an anti-virus
program -- both incoming and outgoing.

I have been scanning my email with an anti-virus program for years --
currently Norton Internet Security.

No Problems At All With Outlook Express -- nor with Outlook.

And the programs doesn't run slower either.

NOW...

Why can't the folks who design and develop Windows Live Mail be smart
enough to design a program for us that has the same robust, flexible
nature as OE?

Why have they designed a program that is so ruddy weak and fragile it
can't interact with a program that scans incoming and outgoing emails?

Because they are dumber and less technically competent than the Good
Folks who designed Outlook Express?
--
D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote in message
...

Make sure your antivirus is not configured to scan email. See
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)




  #4  
Old January 22nd 09, 03:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general,microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
D. Spencer Hines
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Posts: 215
Default Scanning Email With An Anti-Virus Program

Foldes thinks a TROLL is anyone who asks a question he can't answer or which
EMBARRASSES him.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"Peter Foldes" wrote in message
...

You were doing the MS Knowledge Base game a few years back. Now you are
doing this .
Troll and always will be a troll



 




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