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![]() "duguru" ???????/???????? ? ???????? ?????????: ... On WinXP SP2, Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180: 1. Subscribe a newsgroup "szGroupName" under news account A (NewsServerA), a "szGroupName.dbx" file is created ok, then unsubscribe it, close OE, "szGroupName.dbx" file is deleted ok. 2. Restart OE, subscribe the same newsgroup "szGroupName" under news account B (NewsServerB), a "szGroupName.dbx" file is created ok. 3. Subscribe the newsgroup "szGroupName" under news account A (NewsServerA) again, WOW!!! It uses the same "szGroupName.dbx" file!!! Then what a mass! 1. Click NewsServerA.GroupFolder, it deletes all messages (from NewsServerB) in the folder, and then downloads messages from NewsServerA. 2. Click NewsServerB.GroupFolder, it shows the messages (from NewsServerA). 3. Unsubscribe one of them, close OE, the "szGroupName.dbx" file is deleted, restart OE, click the GroupFolder, it re-creates "szGroupName.dbx" file and re-downloads messages. It seems a BUG of OE: 1. When NewsServerA.szGroupName is subscribed, it checks if a szDbxFileName record already exists for NewsServerA.szGroupName, if exists, uses szDbxFileName, if NOT, uses "szGroupName.dbx" (if "szGroupName.dbx" already exists in the file directory, uses "szGroupName (1).dbx"). 2. When NewsServerA.szGroupName is unsubscribed, the szDbxFileName record is not removed!!! 3. When NewsServerB.szGroupName is subscribed, acts as step 1, uses "szGroupName.dbx". 4. When NewsServerA.szGroupName is subscribed again, acts as step 1, uses the previous recorded szDbxFileName="szGroupName.dbx"!!! The szDbxFileName record can't be removed with unsubscribing szGroupName, it can be removed only with deleting the news account (and all news groups under this account). I won't to delete all news groups under either account, so I hack this by: 1. Compact all folder (is this the only way to compact Folders.dbx?). 2. Find "szGroupName.dbx" string in Folders.dbx (compacting delete all unused "szGroupName.dbx" strings, so the found string is the active record). 3. Change the first "szGroupName.dbx" string to "szGroupNam1.dbx", and the second string to "szGroupNam2.dbx", it works! Could someone tell me if this bug has reported and fixed? And has someone tested this bug on Windows Mail (I have no vista machine)? Why not to give a function of customizing the .dbx file names (both newsgroup and mail)? |
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![]() "duguru" ???????/???????? ? ???????? ?????????: ... On WinXP SP2, Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180: 1. Subscribe a newsgroup "szGroupName" under news account A (NewsServerA), a "szGroupName.dbx" file is created ok, then unsubscribe it, close OE, "szGroupName.dbx" file is deleted ok. 2. Restart OE, subscribe the same newsgroup "szGroupName" under news account B (NewsServerB), a "szGroupName.dbx" file is created ok. 3. Subscribe the newsgroup "szGroupName" under news account A (NewsServerA) again, WOW!!! It uses the same "szGroupName.dbx" file!!! Then what a mass! 1. Click NewsServerA.GroupFolder, it deletes all messages (from NewsServerB) in the folder, and then downloads messages from NewsServerA. 2. Click NewsServerB.GroupFolder, it shows the messages (from NewsServerA). 3. Unsubscribe one of them, close OE, the "szGroupName.dbx" file is deleted, restart OE, click the GroupFolder, it re-creates "szGroupName.dbx" file and re-downloads messages. It seems a BUG of OE: 1. When NewsServerA.szGroupName is subscribed, it checks if a szDbxFileName record already exists for NewsServerA.szGroupName, if exists, uses szDbxFileName, if NOT, uses "szGroupName.dbx" (if "szGroupName.dbx" already exists in the file directory, uses "szGroupName (1).dbx"). 2. When NewsServerA.szGroupName is unsubscribed, the szDbxFileName record is not removed!!! 3. When NewsServerB.szGroupName is subscribed, acts as step 1, uses "szGroupName.dbx". 4. When NewsServerA.szGroupName is subscribed again, acts as step 1, uses the previous recorded szDbxFileName="szGroupName.dbx"!!! The szDbxFileName record can't be removed with unsubscribing szGroupName, it can be removed only with deleting the news account (and all news groups under this account). I won't to delete all news groups under either account, so I hack this by: 1. Compact all folder (is this the only way to compact Folders.dbx?). 2. Find "szGroupName.dbx" string in Folders.dbx (compacting delete all unused "szGroupName.dbx" strings, so the found string is the active record). 3. Change the first "szGroupName.dbx" string to "szGroupNam1.dbx", and the second string to "szGroupNam2.dbx", it works! Could someone tell me if this bug has reported and fixed? And has someone tested this bug on Windows Mail (I have no vista machine)? Why not to give a function of customizing the .dbx file names (both newsgroup and mail)? |
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![]() "duguru" ???????/???????? ? ???????? ?????????: ... On WinXP SP2, Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180: 1. Subscribe a newsgroup "szGroupName" under news account A (NewsServerA), a "szGroupName.dbx" file is created ok, then unsubscribe it, close OE, "szGroupName.dbx" file is deleted ok. 2. Restart OE, subscribe the same newsgroup "szGroupName" under news account B (NewsServerB), a "szGroupName.dbx" file is created ok. 3. Subscribe the newsgroup "szGroupName" under news account A (NewsServerA) again, WOW!!! It uses the same "szGroupName.dbx" file!!! Then what a mass! 1. Click NewsServerA.GroupFolder, it deletes all messages (from NewsServerB) in the folder, and then downloads messages from NewsServerA. 2. Click NewsServerB.GroupFolder, it shows the messages (from NewsServerA). 3. Unsubscribe one of them, close OE, the "szGroupName.dbx" file is deleted, restart OE, click the GroupFolder, it re-creates "szGroupName.dbx" file and re-downloads messages. It seems a BUG of OE: 1. When NewsServerA.szGroupName is subscribed, it checks if a szDbxFileName record already exists for NewsServerA.szGroupName, if exists, uses szDbxFileName, if NOT, uses "szGroupName.dbx" (if "szGroupName.dbx" already exists in the file directory, uses "szGroupName (1).dbx"). 2. When NewsServerA.szGroupName is unsubscribed, the szDbxFileName record is not removed!!! 3. When NewsServerB.szGroupName is subscribed, acts as step 1, uses "szGroupName.dbx". 4. When NewsServerA.szGroupName is subscribed again, acts as step 1, uses the previous recorded szDbxFileName="szGroupName.dbx"!!! The szDbxFileName record can't be removed with unsubscribing szGroupName, it can be removed only with deleting the news account (and all news groups under this account). I won't to delete all news groups under either account, so I hack this by: 1. Compact all folder (is this the only way to compact Folders.dbx?). 2. Find "szGroupName.dbx" string in Folders.dbx (compacting delete all unused "szGroupName.dbx" strings, so the found string is the active record). 3. Change the first "szGroupName.dbx" string to "szGroupNam1.dbx", and the second string to "szGroupNam2.dbx", it works! Could someone tell me if this bug has reported and fixed? And has someone tested this bug on Windows Mail (I have no vista machine)? Why not to give a function of customizing the .dbx file names (both newsgroup and mail)? |
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![]() "duguru" ???????/???????? ? ???????? ?????????: ... On WinXP SP2, Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180: 1. Subscribe a newsgroup "szGroupName" under news account A (NewsServerA), a "szGroupName.dbx" file is created ok, then unsubscribe it, close OE, "szGroupName.dbx" file is deleted ok. 2. Restart OE, subscribe the same newsgroup "szGroupName" under news account B (NewsServerB), a "szGroupName.dbx" file is created ok. 3. Subscribe the newsgroup "szGroupName" under news account A (NewsServerA) again, WOW!!! It uses the same "szGroupName.dbx" file!!! Then what a mass! 1. Click NewsServerA.GroupFolder, it deletes all messages (from NewsServerB) in the folder, and then downloads messages from NewsServerA. 2. Click NewsServerB.GroupFolder, it shows the messages (from NewsServerA). 3. Unsubscribe one of them, close OE, the "szGroupName.dbx" file is deleted, restart OE, click the GroupFolder, it re-creates "szGroupName.dbx" file and re-downloads messages. It seems a BUG of OE: 1. When NewsServerA.szGroupName is subscribed, it checks if a szDbxFileName record already exists for NewsServerA.szGroupName, if exists, uses szDbxFileName, if NOT, uses "szGroupName.dbx" (if "szGroupName.dbx" already exists in the file directory, uses "szGroupName (1).dbx"). 2. When NewsServerA.szGroupName is unsubscribed, the szDbxFileName record is not removed!!! 3. When NewsServerB.szGroupName is subscribed, acts as step 1, uses "szGroupName.dbx". 4. When NewsServerA.szGroupName is subscribed again, acts as step 1, uses the previous recorded szDbxFileName="szGroupName.dbx"!!! The szDbxFileName record can't be removed with unsubscribing szGroupName, it can be removed only with deleting the news account (and all news groups under this account). I won't to delete all news groups under either account, so I hack this by: 1. Compact all folder (is this the only way to compact Folders.dbx?). 2. Find "szGroupName.dbx" string in Folders.dbx (compacting delete all unused "szGroupName.dbx" strings, so the found string is the active record). 3. Change the first "szGroupName.dbx" string to "szGroupNam1.dbx", and the second string to "szGroupNam2.dbx", it works! Could someone tell me if this bug has reported and fixed? And has someone tested this bug on Windows Mail (I have no vista machine)? Why not to give a function of customizing the .dbx file names (both newsgroup and mail)? |
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Thank you for your feedback, Ken, I wonder what happened when you
subscribed news:\\news.cn99.com\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress in step 3.1? Hello "duguru", I followed your instructions again, still cannot find any problem. Below is your instructions with my coments [in brackets]. Ken ---------------------------------- My suppositions a 1. Verizon does not display any post that has an attachment may be an expectable result if verizon only supports plain text posts. 2. OE can function properly with multiple instances of the same newsgroup in one Identity. If you subscribe news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress (keep msnews and verizon instances), I suppose it will use microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress (2).dbx (if you never subscribed it before since news:\\nntp.aioe.org account is added) and function ok. [subscribed, it did use (2) dbx] [news:\\nntp.aioe.org account is added] [function okay] 3. OE has a bug with newsgroup dbx file name. 3.1 If you then unsubscribe news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress, close and restart OE (make sure let OE to remove the unused (2).dbx, sometimes unused dbx file will be removed immediately after unsubscribing, sometimes will be removed only after closing OE), subscribe news:\\news.cn99.com\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress (or other server fast enough to test), I suppose it will use microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress (2).dbx (if you never subscribed it before since news:\\news.cn99.com account is added) and function ok (because news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress has been unsubscribed). [unsubscribed | close OE | open OE | confirmed news:\\nntp.aioe.org account, newsgroup and (2) dbx removed] [subscribed news:\\news.cn99.com\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress ] [it did use (2) dbx] [news:\\news.cn99.com account is added] [function okay] 3.2 Then you re-subscribe news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress, I suppose the bug will happen, it will also use microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress (2).dbx, and it will tangle with news:\\news.cn99.com\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress. [re-subscribed news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress] [it used (3) dbx] --------------------------------------- "duguru" wrote in message ... | Thank you for your feedback, Ken, I wonder what happened when you subscribed | news:\\news.cn99.com\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress | in step 3.1? | | When I contacted Microsoft customer service, they told me Microsoft will | officially support and update Windows XP (including OE6) in the next 7 years | (http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3223). I suspect that Microsoft | will fix serious security bugs, but will not be much interest to repair this | minor bug. | | "Ken" wrote in message | ... | Hi, | | I tried to duplicate the problem but it did not happen, perhaps I didn't | do | it correctly. | | As you suspected, when I subscribed to the newsgroups you provided, they | were assigned to (2) dbx. | | Anyway with this appearing to be the last version of Outlook Express, | suspect there will not be much interest to repair. | | My original post was just to confirm a identity can sign up for this | newsgroup via different news servers and each will be assigned their own | dbx | file.... dbx, then dbx1, then dbx2 and etc. | | Ken | |
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Thank you for your patience, Ken, I suppose that you do TOO MUCH than I
described. You did [unsubscribed | close OE | open OE | confirmed news:\\nntp.aioe.org account, newsgroup and (2) dbx removed]. I described "unsubscribe | close and restart OE | confirm (2).dbx removed", NOT to delete news:\\nntp.aioe.org account. If you now delete news:\\nntp.aioe.org account (and newsgroup), delete news:\\news.cn99.com account (and newsgroup), and redo step 2-3 (only unsubscribe newsgroup, NOT to delete news account), I suppose you will reproduce the bug. "Ken" wrote in message ... Thank you for your feedback, Ken, I wonder what happened when you subscribed news:\\news.cn99.com\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress in step 3.1? Hello "duguru", I followed your instructions again, still cannot find any problem. Below is your instructions with my coments [in brackets]. Ken ---------------------------------- My suppositions a 1. Verizon does not display any post that has an attachment may be an expectable result if verizon only supports plain text posts. 2. OE can function properly with multiple instances of the same newsgroup in one Identity. If you subscribe news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress (keep msnews and verizon instances), I suppose it will use microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress (2).dbx (if you never subscribed it before since news:\\nntp.aioe.org account is added) and function ok. [subscribed, it did use (2) dbx] [news:\\nntp.aioe.org account is added] [function okay] 3. OE has a bug with newsgroup dbx file name. 3.1 If you then unsubscribe news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress, close and restart OE (make sure let OE to remove the unused (2).dbx, sometimes unused dbx file will be removed immediately after unsubscribing, sometimes will be removed only after closing OE), subscribe news:\\news.cn99.com\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress (or other server fast enough to test), I suppose it will use microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress (2).dbx (if you never subscribed it before since news:\\news.cn99.com account is added) and function ok (because news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress has been unsubscribed). [unsubscribed | close OE | open OE | confirmed news:\\nntp.aioe.org account, newsgroup and (2) dbx removed] [subscribed news:\\news.cn99.com\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress ] [it did use (2) dbx] [news:\\news.cn99.com account is added] [function okay] 3.2 Then you re-subscribe news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress, I suppose the bug will happen, it will also use microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress (2).dbx, and it will tangle with news:\\news.cn99.com\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress. [re-subscribed news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress] [it used (3) dbx] --------------------------------------- |
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I did not delete news:\\nntp.aioe.org , it was automatically removed when I unsubscribe "microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlook express". However I see your point and will try the test again, this time assuring news:\\nntp.aioe.org does not get removed. I think it may have been removed because it had not been setup thru Tools | Accounts setup wizard. It will be tomorrow May 13th before I get enough time to make the test. Ken "duguru" wrote in message ... | Thank you for your patience, Ken, I suppose that you do TOO MUCH than I | described. | | You did [unsubscribed | close OE | open OE | confirmed news:\\nntp.aioe.org | account, newsgroup and (2) dbx removed]. | | I described "unsubscribe | close and restart OE | confirm (2).dbx removed", | NOT to delete news:\\nntp.aioe.org account. | | If you now delete news:\\nntp.aioe.org account (and newsgroup), delete | news:\\news.cn99.com account (and newsgroup), and redo step 2-3 (only | unsubscribe newsgroup, NOT to delete news account), I suppose you will | reproduce the bug. | | "Ken" wrote in message | ... | Thank you for your feedback, Ken, I wonder what happened when you | subscribed | news:\\news.cn99.com\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress | in step 3.1? | | Hello "duguru", | | I followed your instructions again, still cannot find any problem. | | Below is your instructions with my coments [in brackets]. | | Ken | ---------------------------------- | | My suppositions a | | 1. Verizon does not display any post that has an attachment may be an | expectable result if verizon only supports plain text posts. | | 2. OE can function properly with multiple instances of the same newsgroup | in | one Identity. If you subscribe | news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress | (keep msnews and verizon instances), I suppose it will use | microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress (2).dbx (if you | never subscribed it before since news:\\nntp.aioe.org account is added) | and | function ok. | | [subscribed, it did use (2) dbx] | [news:\\nntp.aioe.org account is added] | [function okay] | | 3. OE has a bug with newsgroup dbx file name. | | 3.1 If you then unsubscribe | news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress, | close and restart OE (make sure let OE to remove the unused (2).dbx, | sometimes unused dbx file will be removed immediately after unsubscribing, | sometimes will be removed only after closing OE), subscribe | news:\\news.cn99.com\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress | (or other server fast enough to test), I suppose it will use | microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress (2).dbx (if you | never subscribed it before since news:\\news.cn99.com account is added) | and | function ok (because | news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress | has been unsubscribed). | | [unsubscribed | close OE | open OE | confirmed news:\\nntp.aioe.org | account, | newsgroup and (2) dbx removed] | | [subscribed | news:\\news.cn99.com\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress ] | [it did use (2) dbx] | [news:\\news.cn99.com account is added] | [function okay] | | 3.2 Then you re-subscribe | news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress, I | suppose the bug will happen, it will also use | microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress (2).dbx, and it | will tangle with | news:\\news.cn99.com\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress. | | [re-subscribed | news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress] | | [it used (3) dbx] | | --------------------------------------- | |
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It seems to be another minor bug (or bad design) of OE:
1. The news account added by clicking news:\\nntp.aioe.org or news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress, will be deleted (after closing OE) SILENTLY (without any notification!) when no newsgroup is subscribed under this account. 2. While the news account added by Account Setup Wizard always keeps unless you delete it. 3. In normal usage, the account added by clicking news:\\ link has no difference from the account added by wizard. I have treated clicking news:\\ link as a shortcut of wizard until this dark difference is found. "Ken" wrote ... FYI I did not delete news:\\nntp.aioe.org , it was automatically removed when I unsubscribe "microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlook express". However I see your point and will try the test again, this time assuring news:\\nntp.aioe.org does not get removed. I think it may have been removed because it had not been setup thru Tools | Accounts setup wizard. It will be tomorrow May 13th before I get enough time to make the test. Ken |
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Hi,
When I performed the test this morning my Outlook Express also assigned the two different news servers to the same dbx file. First I setup, via wizard, both nntp.aioe.org and news.cn99.com news servers. Then subscribed to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress for nntp.aioe.org. microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress is assigned to (2) dbx. Unsubscribed, close, then open Outlook Express, confirm newsgroup and (2) dbx removed. This time nntp.aioe.org was not removed. Then subscribed to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress for news.cn99.com. microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress is assigned to (2) dbx. Then subscribed to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress for nntp.aioe.org. This time it's microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress is also assigned to (2) dbx.. Ken "duguru" wrote in message ... | It seems to be another minor bug (or bad design) of OE: | | 1. The news account added by clicking news:\\nntp.aioe.org or | news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress, | will be deleted (after closing OE) SILENTLY (without any notification!) when | no newsgroup is subscribed under this account. | | 2. While the news account added by Account Setup Wizard always keeps unless | you delete it. | | 3. In normal usage, the account added by clicking news:\\ link has no | difference from the account added by wizard. I have treated clicking news:\\ | link as a shortcut of wizard until this dark difference is found. | | "Ken" wrote | ... | FYI | | I did not delete news:\\nntp.aioe.org , it was automatically removed when | I | unsubscribe "microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlook express". | | However I see your point and will try the test again, this time assuring | news:\\nntp.aioe.org does not get removed. I think it may have been | removed | because it had not been setup thru Tools | Accounts setup wizard. | | It will be tomorrow May 13th before I get enough time to make the test. | | Ken | |
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Thank you for your enthusiasm, Ken, Microsoft customer service had asked me
to send an email about this bug to them, if they give some feedback, I should be glad to share it with you. "Ken" wrote ... Hi, When I performed the test this morning my Outlook Express also assigned the two different news servers to the same dbx file. First I setup, via wizard, both nntp.aioe.org and news.cn99.com news servers. Then subscribed to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress for nntp.aioe.org. microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress is assigned to (2) dbx. Unsubscribed, close, then open Outlook Express, confirm newsgroup and (2) dbx removed. This time nntp.aioe.org was not removed. Then subscribed to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress for news.cn99.com. microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress is assigned to (2) dbx. Then subscribed to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress for nntp.aioe.org. This time it's microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress is also assigned to (2) dbx.. Ken |
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