Thank you, steve, I had done as your note and had described it in step 3.

I believe this ) is a bug of
OE, could someone test it on his machine as I had tested
) to verify it's not my machine's
failure?

Is there a way to report the bug to microsoft by email not by phone
(http://support.microsoft.com/gp/contactbug)?

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
You can find out the name of the dbx file that OE is using by right
clicking on the newsgroup name in the folder list and going to Properties.
That shows the path to the file.

steve

"duguru" wrote in message
...
3. The property dialog shows: "This newsgroup stores in the following
file: H:\msOE\microsoft.public.cn.announcement (3).dbx".

I don't see the point of your post.
Why would anyone want to subscribe to the same newsgroup under different
servers?
There will only be one newsgroup under one server.
Everything else will just be a mirror of the original newsgroup.
The mirror groups can have different retention times, so if the original is
available, why use a mirror site?
--
Ronald Sommer

"duguru" wrote in message
...
: Thank you, steve, I had done as your note and had described it in step 3.
:
: I believe this ) is a bug of
: OE, could someone test it on his machine as I had tested
: ) to verify it's not my
machine's
: failure?
:
: Is there a way to report the bug to microsoft by email not by phone
: (http://support.microsoft.com/gp/contactbug)?
:
: "Steve Cochran" wrote in message
: ...
: You can find out the name of the dbx file that OE is using by right
: clicking on the newsgroup name in the folder list and going to
Properties.
: That shows the path to the file.
:
: steve
:
: "duguru" wrote in message
: ...
: 3. The property dialog shows: "This newsgroup stores in the following
: file: H:\msOE\microsoft.public.cn.announcement (3).dbx".
:

I had said in that subscribing
the same newsgroup under different servers is for comparing.

"Everything else will just be a mirror of the original newsgroup" is right
in theory, but when I compare different servers, it's not so, different
servers missed different articles (in their common retention times).

"Ron Sommer" wrote
...
I don't see the point of your post.
Why would anyone want to subscribe to the same newsgroup under different
servers?
There will only be one newsgroup under one server.
Everything else will just be a mirror of the original newsgroup.
The mirror groups can have different retention times, so if the original
is
available, why use a mirror site?
--
Ronald Sommer

Your results have shown that OE uses the same dbx file for a newsgroup no
matter which server is used.
So if you really want to compare, subscribe to each server under a different
Identity.
Each Identity will have a different Store Folder.
--
Ronald Sommer

"duguru" wrote in message
...
:I had said in that subscribing
: the same newsgroup under different servers is for comparing.
:
: "Everything else will just be a mirror of the original newsgroup" is right
: in theory, but when I compare different servers, it's not so, different
: servers missed different articles (in their common retention times).
:
: "Ron Sommer" wrote
: ...
: I don't see the point of your post.
: Why would anyone want to subscribe to the same newsgroup under different
: servers?
: There will only be one newsgroup under one server.
: Everything else will just be a mirror of the original newsgroup.
: The mirror groups can have different retention times, so if the original
: is
: available, why use a mirror site?
: --
: Ronald Sommer
:

I have the same result as duguru, dbx, dbx1.

Using same identity and sign up for this newsgroup via two news servers.

The following copied from Properties....

For newserver: msnews
C:\WINDOWS\Application
Data\Identities\{E5B5F921-8528-480A-B740-4D47742B6D03}\Microsoft\Outlook
Express\microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_ outlookexpress.dbx

For newsserver: verizon news
C:\WINDOWS\Application
Data\Identities\{E5B5F921-8528-480A-B740-4D47742B6D03}\Microsoft\Outlook
Express\microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_ outlookexpress (1).dbx

Like duguru, I find posting on one server that do not appear on the other
when comparing. For instance, verizon does not display any post that has a
attachmnet.

Ken

"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
| Your results have shown that OE uses the same dbx file for a newsgroup no
| matter which server is used.
| So if you really want to compare, subscribe to each server under a
different
| Identity.
| Each Identity will have a different Store Folder.
| --
| Ronald Sommer
|
| "duguru" wrote in message
| ...
| :I had said in that subscribing
| : the same newsgroup under different servers is for comparing.
| :
| : "Everything else will just be a mirror of the original newsgroup" is
right
| : in theory, but when I compare different servers, it's not so, different
| : servers missed different articles (in their common retention times).
| :
| : "Ron Sommer" wrote
| : ...
| : I don't see the point of your post.
| : Why would anyone want to subscribe to the same newsgroup under
different
| : servers?
| : There will only be one newsgroup under one server.
| : Everything else will just be a mirror of the original newsgroup.
| : The mirror groups can have different retention times, so if the
original
| : is
| : available, why use a mirror site?
| : --
| : Ronald Sommer
| :
|

OE6 in WinXP SP2 is officially the end of the road for the application.
There will be no further development or bugs fixed according to Microsoft.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org

duguru wrote:
Thank you, steve, I had done as your note and had described it in step 3.

I believe this ) is a bug of
OE, could someone test it on his machine as I had tested
) to verify it's not my
machine's
failure?

Is there a way to report the bug to microsoft by email not by phone
(http://support.microsoft.com/gp/contactbug)?

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
You can find out the name of the dbx file that OE is using by right
clicking on the newsgroup name in the folder list and going to
Properties.
That shows the path to the file.

steve

"duguru" wrote in message
...
3. The property dialog shows: "This newsgroup stores in the following
file: H:\msOE\microsoft.public.cn.announcement (3).dbx".

Thank you for your participation, Ken, different servers miss different
articles, some missing is expectable:

1. Out its retention time, older articles certainly do not exist.

2. Binary unsupported, articles with attachments or in HTML format certainly
do not exist.

3. Cancel supported, articles which had been canceled certainly do not exist
(while they still remain on servers which prohibit cancel operation).

4. Anti-server-rules, different servers have their different rules for
accepting articles, articles with incorrect date head or spam-like will be
discarded by some servers.

While some missing is not expectable:

1. news:\\news.f.de.plusline.net missed all 21 articles that I posted in
the period of March 17-31, 2007, while other articles that I posted out of
that period are not missed.

2. In another time, news:\\news.readfreenews.net missed my original article
(plain text normal article with correct date head), but displayed the
reply-articles send by others.

My suppositions a

1. Verizon does not display any post that has an attachment may be an
expectable result if verizon only supports plain text posts.

2. OE can function properly with multiple instances of the same newsgroup in
one Identity. If you subscribe
news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress
(keep msnews and verizon instances), I suppose it will use
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress (2).dbx (if you
never subscribed it before since news:\\nntp.aioe.org account is added) and
function ok.

3. OE has a bug with newsgroup dbx file name.

3.1 If you then unsubscribe
news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress,
close and restart OE (make sure let OE to remove the unused (2).dbx,
sometimes unused dbx file will be removed immediately after unsubscribing,
sometimes will be removed only after closing OE), subscribe
news:\\news.cn99.com\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress
(or other server fast enough to test), I suppose it will use
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress (2).dbx (if you
never subscribed it before since news:\\news.cn99.com account is added) and
function ok (because
news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress
has been unsubscribed).

3.2 Then you re-subscribe
news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress, I
suppose the bug will happen, it will also use
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress (2).dbx, and it
will tangle with
news:\\news.cn99.com\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress.

"Ken" wrote
...
I have the same result as duguru, dbx, dbx1.

Using same identity and sign up for this newsgroup via two news servers.

The following copied from Properties....

For newserver: msnews
C:\WINDOWS\Application
Data\Identities\{E5B5F921-8528-480A-B740-4D47742B6D03}\Microsoft\Outlook
Express\microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_ outlookexpress.dbx

For newsserver: verizon news
C:\WINDOWS\Application
Data\Identities\{E5B5F921-8528-480A-B740-4D47742B6D03}\Microsoft\Outlook
Express\microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_ outlookexpress (1).dbx

Like duguru, I find posting on one server that do not appear on the other
when comparing. For instance, verizon does not display any post that has
a
attachmnet.

Ken

"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
| Your results have shown that OE uses the same dbx file for a newsgroup
no
| matter which server is used.
| So if you really want to compare, subscribe to each server under a
different
| Identity.
| Each Identity will have a different Store Folder.
| --
| Ronald Sommer
|
| "duguru" wrote in message
| ...
| :I had said in that
subscribing
| : the same newsgroup under different servers is for comparing.
| :
| : "Everything else will just be a mirror of the original newsgroup" is
right
| : in theory, but when I compare different servers, it's not so,
different
| : servers missed different articles (in their common retention times).
| :
| : "Ron Sommer" wrote
| : ...
| : I don't see the point of your post.
| : Why would anyone want to subscribe to the same newsgroup under
different
| : servers?
| : There will only be one newsgroup under one server.
| : Everything else will just be a mirror of the original newsgroup.
| : The mirror groups can have different retention times, so if the
original
| : is
| : available, why use a mirror site?
| : --
| : Ronald Sommer

Hi,

I tried to duplicate the problem but it did not happen, perhaps I didn't do
it correctly.

As you suspected, when I subscribed to the newsgroups you provided, they
were assigned to (2) dbx.

Anyway with this appearing to be the last version of Outlook Express,
suspect there will not be much interest to repair.

My original post was just to confirm a identity can sign up for this
newsgroup via different news servers and each will be assigned their own dbx
file.... dbx, then dbx1, then dbx2 and etc.

Ken

"duguru" wrote in message
...
| Thank you for your participation, Ken, different servers miss different
| articles, some missing is expectable:
|
| 1. Out its retention time, older articles certainly do not exist.
|
| 2. Binary unsupported, articles with attachments or in HTML format
certainly
| do not exist.
|
| 3. Cancel supported, articles which had been canceled certainly do not
exist
| (while they still remain on servers which prohibit cancel operation).
|
| 4. Anti-server-rules, different servers have their different rules for
| accepting articles, articles with incorrect date head or spam-like will be
| discarded by some servers.
|
| While some missing is not expectable:
|
| 1. news:\\news.f.de.plusline.net missed all 21 articles that I posted in
| the period of March 17-31, 2007, while other articles that I posted out of
| that period are not missed.
|
| 2. In another time, news:\\news.readfreenews.net missed my original
article
| (plain text normal article with correct date head), but displayed the
| reply-articles send by others.
|
| My suppositions a
|
| 1. Verizon does not display any post that has an attachment may be an
| expectable result if verizon only supports plain text posts.
|
| 2. OE can function properly with multiple instances of the same newsgroup
in
| one Identity. If you subscribe
|
news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress
| (keep msnews and verizon instances), I suppose it will use
| microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress (2).dbx (if you
| never subscribed it before since news:\\nntp.aioe.org account is added)
and
| function ok.
|
| 3. OE has a bug with newsgroup dbx file name.
|
| 3.1 If you then unsubscribe
|
news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress,
| close and restart OE (make sure let OE to remove the unused (2).dbx,
| sometimes unused dbx file will be removed immediately after unsubscribing,
| sometimes will be removed only after closing OE), subscribe
|
news:\\news.cn99.com\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress
| (or other server fast enough to test), I suppose it will use
| microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress (2).dbx (if you
| never subscribed it before since news:\\news.cn99.com account is added)
and
| function ok (because
|
news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress
| has been unsubscribed).
|
| 3.2 Then you re-subscribe
|
news:\\nntp.aioe.org\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress, I
| suppose the bug will happen, it will also use
| microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress (2).dbx, and it
| will tangle with
|
news:\\news.cn99.com\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress.
|
| "Ken" wrote
| ...
| I have the same result as duguru, dbx, dbx1.
|
| Using same identity and sign up for this newsgroup via two news servers.
|
| The following copied from Properties....
|
| For newserver: msnews
| C:\WINDOWS\Application
| Data\Identities\{E5B5F921-8528-480A-B740-4D47742B6D03}\Microsoft\Outlook
| Express\microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_ outlookexpress.dbx
|
| For newsserver: verizon news
| C:\WINDOWS\Application
| Data\Identities\{E5B5F921-8528-480A-B740-4D47742B6D03}\Microsoft\Outlook
| Express\microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_ outlookexpress (1).dbx
|
| Like duguru, I find posting on one server that do not appear on the
other
| when comparing. For instance, verizon does not display any post that
has
| a
| attachmnet.
|
| Ken
|
| "Ron Sommer" wrote in message
| ...
| | Your results have shown that OE uses the same dbx file for a newsgroup
| no
| | matter which server is used.
| | So if you really want to compare, subscribe to each server under a
| different
| | Identity.
| | Each Identity will have a different Store Folder.
| | --
| | Ronald Sommer
| |
| | "duguru" wrote in message
| | ...
| | :I had said in that
| subscribing
| | : the same newsgroup under different servers is for comparing.
| | :
| | : "Everything else will just be a mirror of the original newsgroup" is
| right
| | : in theory, but when I compare different servers, it's not so,
| different
| | : servers missed different articles (in their common retention times).
| | :
| | : "Ron Sommer" wrote
| | : ...
| | : I don't see the point of your post.
| | : Why would anyone want to subscribe to the same newsgroup under
| different
| | : servers?
| | : There will only be one newsgroup under one server.
| | : Everything else will just be a mirror of the original newsgroup.
| | : The mirror groups can have different retention times, so if the
| original
| | : is
| | : available, why use a mirror site?
| | : --
| | : Ronald Sommer
|

Thank you for your feedback, Ken, I wonder what happened when you subscribed
news:\\news.cn99.com\microsoft.public.windows.inet explorer.ie6_outlookexpress
in step 3.1?

When I contacted Microsoft customer service, they told me Microsoft will
officially support and update Windows XP (including OE6) in the next 7 years
(http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3223). I suspect that Microsoft
will fix serious security bugs, but will not be much interest to repair this
minor bug.

"Ken" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I tried to duplicate the problem but it did not happen, perhaps I didn't
do
it correctly.

As you suspected, when I subscribed to the newsgroups you provided, they
were assigned to (2) dbx.

Anyway with this appearing to be the last version of Outlook Express,
suspect there will not be much interest to repair.

My original post was just to confirm a identity can sign up for this
newsgroup via different news servers and each will be assigned their own
dbx
file.... dbx, then dbx1, then dbx2 and etc.

Ken

"duguru" ???????/???????? ? ???????? ?????????:
...
On WinXP SP2, Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180:

1. Subscribe a newsgroup "szGroupName" under news account A (NewsServerA),
a
"szGroupName.dbx" file is created ok, then unsubscribe it, close OE,
"szGroupName.dbx" file is deleted ok.

2. Restart OE, subscribe the same newsgroup "szGroupName" under news
account
B (NewsServerB), a "szGroupName.dbx" file is created ok.

3. Subscribe the newsgroup "szGroupName" under news account A
(NewsServerA)
again, WOW!!! It uses the same "szGroupName.dbx" file!!!

Then what a mass!

1. Click NewsServerA.GroupFolder, it deletes all messages (from
NewsServerB)
in the folder, and then downloads messages from NewsServerA.

2. Click NewsServerB.GroupFolder, it shows the messages (from
NewsServerA).

3. Unsubscribe one of them, close OE, the "szGroupName.dbx" file is
deleted,
restart OE, click the GroupFolder, it re-creates "szGroupName.dbx" file
and re-downloads messages.

It seems a BUG of OE:

1. When NewsServerA.szGroupName is subscribed, it checks if a
szDbxFileName
record already exists for NewsServerA.szGroupName, if exists, uses
szDbxFileName, if NOT, uses "szGroupName.dbx" (if "szGroupName.dbx"
already
exists in the file directory, uses "szGroupName (1).dbx").

2. When NewsServerA.szGroupName is unsubscribed, the szDbxFileName record
is
not removed!!!

3. When NewsServerB.szGroupName is subscribed, acts as step 1, uses
"szGroupName.dbx".

4. When NewsServerA.szGroupName is subscribed again, acts as step 1, uses
the
previous recorded szDbxFileName="szGroupName.dbx"!!!

The szDbxFileName record can't be removed with unsubscribing szGroupName,
it
can be removed only with deleting the news account (and all news groups
under this account).

I won't to delete all news groups under either account, so I hack this by:

1. Compact all folder (is this the only way to compact Folders.dbx?).

2. Find "szGroupName.dbx" string in Folders.dbx (compacting delete all
unused "szGroupName.dbx" strings, so the found string is the active
record).

3. Change the first "szGroupName.dbx" string to "szGroupNam1.dbx", and the
second string to "szGroupNam2.dbx", it works!

Could someone tell me if this bug has reported and fixed? And has someone
tested this bug on Windows Mail (I have no vista machine)? Why not to
give
a function of customizing the .dbx file names (both newsgroup and mail)?