Sue,

Thanks for your help.

99% of users are using outlook 2003. any alternate way?
what's the registry change? I did not see in the link.


"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

#2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object or with
any low-level API addressing Outlook.

An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method (see
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new form the
default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is no longer
available at some future date.

If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form region would be
the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture, form regions
aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in Express tool
might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business need has
raised the idea of using a custom form.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"Karl Timmermans" wrote in message
...
Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but
from
where I sit -

#1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library

#2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch
admin
will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the
"Default
Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of
anything
off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk since
the
folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.

#3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be accessing
all
the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since
DocMsgClass
(as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that
matter)
requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I
believe I'm
correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and then
processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users and
would
be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each
user's
workstation.

"ed" wrote in message
...

"(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new
message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact
folder without going to each user's computer?"

We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form
library
should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use the
new
customized folder?


.

99% of users are using outlook 2003. any alternate way?

See my response to Karl's question about low-level APIs and the information
in the article in the section under Change Folder Default

what's the registry change? I did not see in the link.

Read the article's section on Substitute Default Form
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

#2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object or
with
any low-level API addressing Outlook.

An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method (see
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new form the
default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is no longer
available at some future date.

If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form region would
be
the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture, form
regions
aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in Express tool
might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business need has
raised the idea of using a custom form.

"Karl Timmermans" wrote in message
...
Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but
from
where I sit -

#1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library

#2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch
admin
will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the
"Default
Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of
anything
off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk
since
the
folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.

#3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be
accessing
all
the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since
DocMsgClass
(as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that
matter)
requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I
believe I'm
correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and
then
processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users
and
would
be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each
user's
workstation.

"ed" wrote in message
...

"(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new
message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's
contact
folder without going to each user's computer?"

We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form
library
should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use
the
new
customized folder?


.

Sue,

Thank you and I am going to check it again.

will it change the new contact form for all users if I publish to the exch
org? It seems that I have to select the customized contact form in each
user's contacts folder's Form tab?

Is this supposed to be? or am I missing something?

thank you again.



"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

99% of users are using outlook 2003. any alternate way?

See my response to Karl's question about low-level APIs and the information
in the article in the section under Change Folder Default

what's the registry change? I did not see in the link.

Read the article's section on Substitute Default Form
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

#2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object or
with
any low-level API addressing Outlook.

An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method (see
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new form the
default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is no longer
available at some future date.

If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form region would
be
the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture, form
regions
aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in Express tool
might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business need has
raised the idea of using a custom form.

"Karl Timmermans" wrote in message
...
Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but
from
where I sit -

#1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library

#2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch
admin
will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the
"Default
Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of
anything
off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk
since
the
folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.

#3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be
accessing
all
the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since
DocMsgClass
(as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that
matter)
requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I
believe I'm
correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and
then
processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users
and
would
be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each
user's
workstation.

"ed" wrote in message
...

"(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new
message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's
contact
folder without going to each user's computer?"

We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form
library
should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use
the
new
customized folder?


.



.

Publishing the form only makes it available to users. It does not change the
current behavior of existing or future contacts.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"John" wrote in message
...
Sue,

Thank you and I am going to check it again.

will it change the new contact form for all users if I publish to the exch
org? It seems that I have to select the customized contact form in each
user's contacts folder's Form tab?

Is this supposed to be? or am I missing something?

thank you again.



"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

99% of users are using outlook 2003. any alternate way?

See my response to Karl's question about low-level APIs and the
information
in the article in the section under Change Folder Default

what's the registry change? I did not see in the link.

Read the article's section on Substitute Default Form
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

#2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object or
with
any low-level API addressing Outlook.

An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method (see
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new form
the
default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is no
longer
available at some future date.

If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form region
would
be
the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture, form
regions
aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in Express
tool
might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business need
has
raised the idea of using a custom form.

"Karl Timmermans" wrote in message
...
Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer
but
from
where I sit -

#1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library

#2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the
Exch
admin
will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the
"Default
Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of
anything
off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk
since
the
folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.

#3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be
accessing
all
the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since
DocMsgClass
(as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for
that
matter)
requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile
(I
believe I'm
correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and
then
processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800
users
and
would
be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to
each
user's
workstation.

"ed" wrote in message
...

"(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a
new
message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's
contact
folder without going to each user's computer?"

We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which
form
library
should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use
the
new
customized folder?


.



.

sue,

Thank you for clearing my understandings.

So, I have to follow

Change Folder Default
To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder or
to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've published
the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select your
form from the When posting to this folder list.

to change everyone's contact folder default.

Can registry key take care of above?

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Outlook\Custom Forms
what exactly Custom Forms key value? Do you have the exact key follow
custom forms? my new form is IP.contact.NEW.
Can you help me?

Great thanks!

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

Publishing the form only makes it available to users. It does not change the
current behavior of existing or future contacts.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"John" wrote in message
...
Sue,

Thank you and I am going to check it again.

will it change the new contact form for all users if I publish to the exch
org? It seems that I have to select the customized contact form in each
user's contacts folder's Form tab?

Is this supposed to be? or am I missing something?

thank you again.



"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

99% of users are using outlook 2003. any alternate way?

See my response to Karl's question about low-level APIs and the
information
in the article in the section under Change Folder Default

what's the registry change? I did not see in the link.

Read the article's section on Substitute Default Form
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

#2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object or
with
any low-level API addressing Outlook.

An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method (see
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new form
the
default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is no
longer
available at some future date.

If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form region
would
be
the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture, form
regions
aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in Express
tool
might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business need
has
raised the idea of using a custom form.

"Karl Timmermans" wrote in message
...
Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer
but
from
where I sit -

#1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library

#2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the
Exch
admin
will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the
"Default
Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of
anything
off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk
since
the
folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.

#3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be
accessing
all
the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since
DocMsgClass
(as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for
that
matter)
requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile
(I
believe I'm
correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and
then
processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800
users
and
would
be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to
each
user's
workstation.

"ed" wrote in message
...

"(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a
new
message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's
contact
folder without going to each user's computer?"

We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which
form
library
should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use
the
new
customized folder?


.



.



.

Thanks Sue - never fails - always seems like the easiest and most
obvious is the most difficult to see.

Karl

--
__________________________________________________ __________
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr
"Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010"
http://www.contactgenie.com

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Redemption, CDO 1.21, or ExMAPI. -- PR_DEF_POST_MSGCLASS
(http://schemas.microsoft.com/mapi/proptag/0x36E5001E) and
PR_DEF_POST_DISPLAYNAME
(http://schemas.microsoft.com/mapi/proptag/0x36E6001E)
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"Karl Timmermans" wrote in message
...
By low-level API - are you referring to things like Redemption? The
default
folder MCls property shows as "read-only" or am I missing something
painfully obvious (very likely)?

Karl
--
__________________________________________________ __________
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr
"Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010"
http://www.contactgenie.com

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote in message
...
#2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object or
with any low-level API addressing Outlook.

"Karl Timmermans" wrote in message
...

#2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch
admin
will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the
"Default
Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of
anything
off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk
since the
folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.

You've mixed up two different types of defaults -- folder and global. Each
is implemented differently. You must choose which is more appropriate for
your scenario.

If you decide to change the global default by using the registry
substitution method, follow the instructions in that article about using the
Microsoft tool and exporting a .reg key. You may be able to use that .reg
data with other tools that your organization has for deploying registry
changes to users' desktops.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"ed" wrote in message
...
sue,

Thank you for clearing my understandings.

So, I have to follow

Change Folder Default
To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder or
to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've
published
the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select your
form from the When posting to this folder list.

to change everyone's contact folder default.

Can registry key take care of above?

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Outlook\Custom Forms
what exactly Custom Forms key value? Do you have the exact key follow
custom forms? my new form is IP.contact.NEW.
Can you help me?

Great thanks!

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

Publishing the form only makes it available to users. It does not change
the
current behavior of existing or future contacts.

"John" wrote in message
...
Sue,

Thank you and I am going to check it again.

will it change the new contact form for all users if I publish to the
exch
org? It seems that I have to select the customized contact form in each
user's contacts folder's Form tab?

Is this supposed to be? or am I missing something?

thank you again.



"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

99% of users are using outlook 2003. any alternate way?

See my response to Karl's question about low-level APIs and the
information
in the article in the section under Change Folder Default

what's the registry change? I did not see in the link.

Read the article's section on Substitute Default Form
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

#2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object
or
with
any low-level API addressing Outlook.

An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method
(see
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new form
the
default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is no
longer
available at some future date.

If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form region
would
be
the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture,
form
regions
aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in Express
tool
might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business need
has
raised the idea of using a custom form.

"Karl Timmermans" wrote in message
...
Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete
answer
but
from
where I sit -

#1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library

#2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the
Exch
admin
will need to access each individual's contact folder to change
the
"Default
Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware
of
anything
off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in
bulk
since
the
folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.

#3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be
accessing
all
the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since
DocMsgClass
(as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for
that
matter)
requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook
profile
(I
believe I'm
correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile
and
then
processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800
users
and
would
be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to
each
user's
workstation.

"ed" wrote in message
...

"(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a
new
message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's
contact
folder without going to each user's computer?"

We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which
form
library
should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to
use
the
new
customized folder?


.



.



.

With no intention of duplicating answers already posted by Sue....

#1 - Changing workstations

Bottomline - each individual workstation needs to be changed in
terms of the default folder msgclass - either directly (which ever
method is chosen based on other responses) or via the method I
described in original answer

#2 - Automatic method to change default for folders?

None that I am aware of at present with anything that exists but will
easily stand corrected on that if someone knows of something. And
remember, once the default msg class has been changed - still need
to run something like DocMsgClass or the MCls Change function in
CG Toolkit to change existing contact items.

There is going to be functionality added to CG Toolkit to address
both of the issues described in item#2 at some point but that
unfortunately doesn't help you with the task at hand today.

Karl
--
__________________________________________________ __________
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr
"Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010"
http://www.contactgenie.com


"ed" wrote in message
...
Great thanks.
#1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library
will it change the new contact form for all users if I publish to the exch
org?

Change Folder Default
To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder or
to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've
published
the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select your
form from the When posting to this folder list

I have to go toeach workstation to change folder default too, right? any
automatic way?

Thank you for your time and help.


"Karl Timmermans" wrote:

Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but
from
where I sit -

#1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library

#2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch
admin
will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the
"Default
Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of
anything
off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk since
the
folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.

#3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be accessing
all
the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since
DocMsgClass
(as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that
matter)
requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I
believe I'm
correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and then
processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users and
would
be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each
user's
workstation.

Karl
--
__________________________________________________ __________
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr
"Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010"
http://www.contactgenie.com


"ed" wrote in message
...
Thank you for your great help.
sorry about that I did not state my questions clearly.
Yes. my question is:


"(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new
message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's
contact
folder without going to each user's computer?"

We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form
library
should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use the
new
customized folder?

Thank you and thank you. (we have around 800 users )
"Karl Timmermans" wrote:

What exactly is/are your question(s)? Not clear what you mean by
"user"
in all cases within your question.

#1 - If it is purely on how to change existing contacts to use a new
message
class - then DocMsgClass is definitely all you will need to change all
contacts in any given contact folder (ContactGenie Toolkit also
includes
a
similar free message class change function)

#2 - Or is your question:
"(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders
(b) to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts
in
each user's contact folder OR ...
(c) have all users use the same custom form for a public contact
folder
(d) without going to each user's computer?"

If any part of it relates to item #2 - are you using Exchange?

Karl
--
__________________________________________________ __________
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact
Mgr
"Contact import/export/data management tools for Outlook '2000/2010"
http://www.contactgenie.com



"ed" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

We create the new contact form and we want users to use te
customized
contact form for old existing and new contact.

I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html
to modify each indiviual user.

Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form
for
old
existing form?

thank you!




.




.

Thank you! I really do not know two different types of defaults -- folder
and global

If I publish the new contact form to the exch. org form, I need to change
the folder
default as the follows and then conver the existing contacts if needed

Change Folder Default
To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder or
to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've
published
the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select your
form from the When posting to this folder list.

to change everyone's contact folder default

Any automatic way to change folder default?

thank you for your time and knowledge.

I really appreciate it.

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

You've mixed up two different types of defaults -- folder and global. Each
is implemented differently. You must choose which is more appropriate for
your scenario.

If you decide to change the global default by using the registry
substitution method, follow the instructions in that article about using the
Microsoft tool and exporting a .reg key. You may be able to use that .reg
data with other tools that your organization has for deploying registry
changes to users' desktops.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"ed" wrote in message
...
sue,

Thank you for clearing my understandings.

So, I have to follow

Change Folder Default
To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder or
to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've
published
the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select your
form from the When posting to this folder list.

to change everyone's contact folder default.

Can registry key take care of above?

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Outlook\Custom Forms
what exactly Custom Forms key value? Do you have the exact key follow
custom forms? my new form is IP.contact.NEW.
Can you help me?

Great thanks!

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

Publishing the form only makes it available to users. It does not change
the
current behavior of existing or future contacts.

"John" wrote in message
...
Sue,

Thank you and I am going to check it again.

will it change the new contact form for all users if I publish to the
exch
org? It seems that I have to select the customized contact form in each
user's contacts folder's Form tab?

Is this supposed to be? or am I missing something?

thank you again.



"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

99% of users are using outlook 2003. any alternate way?

See my response to Karl's question about low-level APIs and the
information
in the article in the section under Change Folder Default

what's the registry change? I did not see in the link.

Read the article's section on Substitute Default Form
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

#2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object
or
with
any low-level API addressing Outlook.

An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method
(see
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new form
the
default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is no
longer
available at some future date.

If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form region
would
be
the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture,
form
regions
aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in Express
tool
might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business need
has
raised the idea of using a custom form.

"Karl Timmermans" wrote in message
...
Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete
answer
but
from
where I sit -

#1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library

#2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the
Exch
admin
will need to access each individual's contact folder to change
the
"Default
Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware
of
anything
off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in
bulk
since
the
folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.

#3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be
accessing
all
the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since
DocMsgClass
(as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for
that
matter)
requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook
profile
(I
believe I'm
correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile
and
then
processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800
users
and
would
be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to
each
user's
workstation.

"ed" wrote in message
...

"(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a
new
message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's
contact
folder without going to each user's computer?"

We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which
form
library
should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to
use
the
new
customized folder?


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Any automatic way to change folder default?

As we've already discussed in this thread, no.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"ed" wrote in message
...
Thank you! I really do not know two different types of defaults -- folder
and global

If I publish the new contact form to the exch. org form, I need to change
the folder
default as the follows and then conver the existing contacts if needed

Change Folder Default
To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder
or
to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've
published
the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select
your
form from the When posting to this folder list.

to change everyone's contact folder default

Any automatic way to change folder default?

thank you for your time and knowledge.

I really appreciate it.

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

You've mixed up two different types of defaults -- folder and global.
Each
is implemented differently. You must choose which is more appropriate for
your scenario.

If you decide to change the global default by using the registry
substitution method, follow the instructions in that article about using
the
Microsoft tool and exporting a .reg key. You may be able to use that .reg
data with other tools that your organization has for deploying registry
changes to users' desktops.


"ed" wrote in message
...
sue,

Thank you for clearing my understandings.

So, I have to follow

Change Folder Default
To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder
or
to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've
published
the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select
your
form from the When posting to this folder list.

to change everyone's contact folder default.

Can registry key take care of above?

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Outlook\Custom Forms
what exactly Custom Forms key value? Do you have the exact key follow
custom forms? my new form is IP.contact.NEW.
Can you help me?

Great thanks!

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

Publishing the form only makes it available to users. It does not
change
the
current behavior of existing or future contacts.

"John" wrote in message
...
Sue,

Thank you and I am going to check it again.

will it change the new contact form for all users if I publish to
the
exch
org? It seems that I have to select the customized contact form in
each
user's contacts folder's Form tab?

Is this supposed to be? or am I missing something?

thank you again.



"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

99% of users are using outlook 2003. any alternate way?

See my response to Karl's question about low-level APIs and the
information
in the article in the section under Change Folder Default

what's the registry change? I did not see in the link.

Read the article's section on Substitute Default Form
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

#2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor
object
or
with
any low-level API addressing Outlook.

An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method
(see
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new
form
the
default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is
no
longer
available at some future date.

If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form
region
would
be
the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture,
form
regions
aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in
Express
tool
might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business
need
has
raised the idea of using a custom form.

"Karl Timmermans" wrote in message
...
Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete
answer
but
from
where I sit -

#1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library

#2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then
the
Exch
admin
will need to access each individual's contact folder to change
the
"Default
Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not
aware
of
anything
off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in
bulk
since
the
folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.

#3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to
be
accessing
all
the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts
since
DocMsgClass
(as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function
for
that
matter)
requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook
profile
(I
believe I'm
correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a
profile
and
then
processing the contact folder. That could take a while with
800
users
and
would
be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going
to
each
user's
workstation.

"ed" wrote in message
...

"(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to
use a
new
message class for both new and existing contacts in each
user's
contact
folder without going to each user's computer?"

We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
we need to change users's oulook default contact folder.
Which
form
library
should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder
to
use
the
new
customized folder?


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