It's not a matter of what programming I want, it's if you want your code to
work you have to debug it. All programming requires that. No one can do it
for you. I think it could work, but things need debugging.

--
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Professional Programming Outlook 2007.
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options.
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"DLGolfs" wrote in message
...
Sorry that I cannot do the programming that you want; but it does run
without
errors, it is just that the "rule" does not run, when I mean "nothing" I
mean
that the rulle does not run, it does not delete the spam in the junk
folder.
No boxes open, nothing happens, like I did nothing.

I guess it just can't be done with a macro, thatnks for trying anyway,
I'll
just have to do it manually, which is a real pain, but so be it.

I am sorry, I did not mean that you should debug it; I just don't know what I
am doing. I went to 'help" and found out what the 'locals window" is. b/c I
did not kow what it was.
I thought that I could copy /paste the result in this e-mail but I do not
see an avenue to do that.

So, I ran it w/o breaks and it just shows this but, this is probably not
helpful:

ONs nothing Name space
Ostore nothing store
colrules nothing rules
orule nothing rule

then when I put a breakpoint at the end of the set colrules o store linee,
it gives me a ton of lines, what should I look for? Most have "+" signs and
I able to expand it

At least I understand now what you want me to do.

"Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

Open the Locals window, that will show all variables in scope and their
values. I mentioned that earlier in the thread.

--
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Professional Programming Outlook 2007.
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options.
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm


"DLGolfs" wrote in message
...
What are values of the vairables? Is there a way to see that?

All I know is if I run it and/or brekapoint it , then it either does
nothing, that is litterally nothing happens OR it opens VB and shows me
the
first line in yellow

.

If you looked at locals when the code had finished they would all be Nothing
(null). What you want to do is to put the breakpoint on the line after
colRules is set.

You should then see valid objects for NameSpace, Store and Rules objects.
For example instead of Nothing you'd be able to expand the value and see
settings such as Name.

That tells you the base objects you need are all set. Then using F8 to step
the code one executable line at a time you can execute that line of code and
see what other variables are doing. Does the rule you want get found and
instantiated as oRule, etc.

--
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Professional Programming Outlook 2007.
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options.
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm


"DLGolfs" wrote in message
...
I am sorry, I did not mean that you should debug it; I just don't know what
I
am doing. I went to 'help" and found out what the 'locals window" is. b/c
I
did not kow what it was.
I thought that I could copy /paste the result in this e-mail but I do not
see an avenue to do that.

So, I ran it w/o breaks and it just shows this but, this is probably not
helpful:

ONs nothing Name space
Ostore nothing store
colrules nothing rules
orule nothing rule

then when I put a breakpoint at the end of the set colrules o store linee,
it gives me a ton of lines, what should I look for? Most have "+" signs
and
I able to expand it

At least I understand now what you want me to do.

OK, I put my cursor at the end of the line
Set colRules = oStore.GetRules()
right click, toggle , breakpoint, it turns brown,
click run and it shows

+module4 module4/module4
no variables
+ : oNS : : NameSpace/NameSpace
+ : oStore : : Store/Store
: colRules : Nothing : Rules
: oRule : Nothing : Rule

So I don't see Namespace, store and rules, I see what is above.

Now what? I cannot expand colRules or oRule there is no + sign

orules nothing

"Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

If you looked at locals when the code had finished they would all be Nothing
(null). What you want to do is to put the breakpoint on the line after
colRules is set.

You should then see valid objects for NameSpace, Store and Rules objects.
For example instead of Nothing you'd be able to expand the value and see
settings such as Name.

That tells you the base objects you need are all set. Then using F8 to step
the code one executable line at a time you can execute that line of code and
see what other variables are doing. Does the rule you want get found and
instantiated as oRule, etc.

--
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Professional Programming Outlook 2007.
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options.
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm


"DLGolfs" wrote in message
...
I am sorry, I did not mean that you should debug it; I just don't know what
I
am doing. I went to 'help" and found out what the 'locals window" is. b/c
I
did not kow what it was.
I thought that I could copy /paste the result in this e-mail but I do not
see an avenue to do that.

So, I ran it w/o breaks and it just shows this but, this is probably not
helpful:

ONs nothing Name space
Ostore nothing store
colrules nothing rules
orule nothing rule

then when I put a breakpoint at the end of the set colrules o store linee,
it gives me a ton of lines, what should I look for? Most have "+" signs
and
I able to expand it

At least I understand now what you want me to do.

.

So what happens if you press F8 after you hit the breakpoint? You should be
in the line after setting colRules and colRules should not be Nothing and
should now have a + that you can expand to see properties such as Count,
which should have a number. Another F8 should instantiate your oRule object
and that then should not be Nothing and should be expandable to show
properties such as Name.

--
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Professional Programming Outlook 2007.
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options.
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm


"DLGolfs" wrote in message
...
OK, I put my cursor at the end of the line
Set colRules = oStore.GetRules()
right click, toggle , breakpoint, it turns brown,
click run and it shows

+module4 module4/module4
no variables
+ : oNS : : NameSpace/NameSpace
+ : oStore : : Store/Store
: colRules : Nothing : Rules
: oRule : Nothing : Rule

So I don't see Namespace, store and rules, I see what is above.

Now what? I cannot expand colRules or oRule there is no + sign

orules nothing

"Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

So what happens if you press F8 after you hit the breakpoint? You should be
in the line after setting colRules and colRules should not be Nothing and
should now have a + that you can expand to see properties such as Count, THERE IS NO "PROPERTIES" AND NO "COUNT"

I GET THE FOLLOWING AND WHEN i EXPAND THE ONS THERE IS NO 'COUNT" JUST
ACCOUNTS, ADDRESS LISTS, APPLICATIONS, CATERGORIES, CURRENT USER, DEFAULT
STORE, FOLDERS MAPIOBJECT, PARENT SESSION, STORES, AND SYNCOBJECTS ...DO YOU
MEAN ACCOUNT OR COUNT? THIS IS WHAT I SEE EVERYTIME, :
- : Module4 : : Module4/Module4
: oStore : Nothing : Store
: oNS : Nothing : NameSpace
: colRules : Nothing : Rules
: oRule : Nothing : Rule
OK, THEN F8 AND IT HIGHLIGHTS THE FIRST LINE AND NOTHING CHANGES AS YOU SEE
ABOVE
THEN ANOTHER F8 AND IT HIGHLIGHTS THE SET ONS LINE AND NOTHING CHANGES AS
YOU SEE ABOVE
THEN ANOTHER F8 AND IT HIGHLIGHTS THE SET OSTORE LINE AND AGAIN NOTHING
CHANGES AS YOU SEE ABOVE AND SO ON
IF SOMETHING IS CHANGING IN THE EXPANSION, IT WOULD IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO
TELL UNLESS YOU DIRECT ME TO A CERTAIN PLACE


which should have a number WHERE?
.. Another F8 should instantiate your oRule object
and that then should not be Nothing and should be expandable to show
properties such as Name.

--
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Professional Programming Outlook 2007.
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options.
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm


"DLGolfs" wrote in message
...
OK, I put my cursor at the end of the line
Set colRules = oStore.GetRules()
right click, toggle , breakpoint, it turns brown,
click run and it shows

+module4 module4/module4
no variables
+ : oNS : : NameSpace/NameSpace
+ : oStore : : Store/Store
: colRules : Nothing : Rules
: oRule : Nothing : Rule

So I don't see Namespace, store and rules, I see what is above.

Now what? I cannot expand colRules or oRule there is no + sign

orules nothing

.

In case you didn't know it all caps is hard to read and is considered as
shouting.

I have no idea what's going on. If you never get valid NameSpace, Store or
Rules collection objects obviously the code will never fire the rule. But
the code to get those objects should just work.

You are running this in Outlook 2007, with nothing in the code other than
what's been shown, and no errors are fired?

Select Tools, Trust Center and select the Macro Security tab. What is the
setting there? What about on the Programmatic Access tab?

Something is drastically wrong with your setup or there's something going on
that we're not being told about. Otherwise at minimum the line setting
NameSpace would work.

--
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Professional Programming Outlook 2007.
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options.
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm


"DLGolfs" wrote in message
...


"Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

So what happens if you press F8 after you hit the breakpoint? You should
be
in the line after setting colRules and colRules should not be Nothing and
should now have a + that you can expand to see properties such as Count,
THERE IS NO "PROPERTIES" AND NO "COUNT"

I GET THE FOLLOWING AND WHEN i EXPAND THE ONS THERE IS NO 'COUNT" JUST
ACCOUNTS, ADDRESS LISTS, APPLICATIONS, CATERGORIES, CURRENT USER, DEFAULT
STORE, FOLDERS MAPIOBJECT, PARENT SESSION, STORES, AND SYNCOBJECTS ...DO
YOU
MEAN ACCOUNT OR COUNT? THIS IS WHAT I SEE EVERYTIME, :
- : Module4 : : Module4/Module4
: oStore : Nothing : Store
: oNS : Nothing : NameSpace
: colRules : Nothing : Rules
: oRule : Nothing : Rule
OK, THEN F8 AND IT HIGHLIGHTS THE FIRST LINE AND NOTHING CHANGES AS YOU
SEE
ABOVE
THEN ANOTHER F8 AND IT HIGHLIGHTS THE SET ONS LINE AND NOTHING CHANGES AS
YOU SEE ABOVE
THEN ANOTHER F8 AND IT HIGHLIGHTS THE SET OSTORE LINE AND AGAIN NOTHING
CHANGES AS YOU SEE ABOVE AND SO ON
IF SOMETHING IS CHANGING IN THE EXPANSION, IT WOULD IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO
TELL UNLESS YOU DIRECT ME TO A CERTAIN PLACE

Well , I answered you some time ago so I guess you have given up on me.
Sorry I don't know how to program, I put what you wrote and it did not work.
I really thought that is what the disussion groups are for, to help people
like me who know nothing about programming. I guess I'll have to try someone
else to give me the answer.

If you were offended by the CAPS, then I don't kow what to say about that!
WHy would I do someone to offend someone who is helping me? Truth is, i
wouldn't.
Oh well so be it.



"Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

Open the Locals window, that will show all variables in scope and their
values. I mentioned that earlier in the thread.

--
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Professional Programming Outlook 2007.
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options.
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm


"DLGolfs" wrote in message
...
What are values of the vairables? Is there a way to see that?

All I know is if I run it and/or brekapoint it , then it either does
nothing, that is litterally nothing happens OR it opens VB and shows me
the
first line in yellow

.

I had answered each one of your posts. Then you started a new thread and I
figured you decided to try to get answers from someone else. So I left that
thread alone.

I'm certainly willing to continue to try to help, but I'm really at a loss.
As I said in my last post, other than the information about caps, which did
not offend me:

I have no idea what's going on. If you never get valid NameSpace, Store or
Rules collection objects obviously the code will never fire the rule. But
the code to get those objects should just work.

You are running this in Outlook 2007, with nothing in the code other than
what's been shown, and no errors are fired?

Select Tools, Trust Center and select the Macro Security tab. What is the
setting there? What about on the Programmatic Access tab?

Something is drastically wrong with your setup or there's something going on
that we're not being told about. Otherwise at minimum the line setting
NameSpace would work.

The first thing, before any rules stuff, is that you should be getting a
valid NameSpace object. If you aren't then something is drastically wrong
that must be corrected before any of your code will run at all. I'd be
curious about the security settings as I asked, and I'd also be curious to
see if you are running an anti-virus program that maybe is breaking code
with a script stopper.

--
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Professional Programming Outlook 2007.
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options.
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm


"DLGolfs" wrote in message
...
Well , I answered you some time ago so I guess you have given up on me.
Sorry I don't know how to program, I put what you wrote and it did not
work.
I really thought that is what the disussion groups are for, to help people
like me who know nothing about programming. I guess I'll have to try
someone
else to give me the answer.

If you were offended by the CAPS, then I don't kow what to say about that!
WHy would I do someone to offend someone who is helping me? Truth is, i
wouldn't.
Oh well so be it.

Ken:
First, I went to someone else b/c I left my reply on 3/16 and had not heard
anyting and gave up on 3/22, that is why I tried someone else.

Secondly, I gave you all these security settings already in an earlier post.
from 3/16 but here it is again: So I'll do it this way:
Yes, OUtlook 2007, no errors, when I run the macro through OUtlook, it opens
VB and highlights the Setcol Rules line, that is it, not errors

Programming says "warn me about suspicious.....(recommended)"

Warnings for all macros
Warn me about suspecious activity when my , etc etc
Bottom line, is that you wrote the program, not me, and I used a lot of time
to figure out what you were asking and tried to answer the best of my
ability. I gave up b/c I had not heard from you in 6 days, hey maybe you
were on vacation, but I just figured you got ****ed off and was frustrated
that I was SO dumb about this.

My rule runs fine manually, it is call Delete Spam, I copied and pasted your
programming into VBA, enabled macros. Opened the junk folder, clicked on
macros, run the delete spam macro and all it does is highlight my first
e-mail in the junk folder, no errors nothing.

So maybe delete everything and start over. I have not gotten a response
from my other posts, just ignored me, oh well, so be it.
So whatever you want to do is fine with me.


You wrote:

The first thing, before any rules stuff, is that you should be getting a
valid NameSpace object. I If you aren't then something is drastically wrong
that must be corrected before any of your code will run at all. I'd be
curious about the security settings as I asked, and I'd also be curious to
see if you are running an anti-virus program that maybe is breaking code
with a script stopper.
I don't know what a valid NameSpace object looks like
I do run an anti-virus program called Avira, I can look to see if it is
stopping scripts but doubt it b/c I would have other indications of this,
don't you think?
Sorry about all this, but I just thought that you had given up on me!
"Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

I had answered each one of your posts. Then you started a new thread and I
figured you decided to try to get answers from someone else. So I left that
thread alone.

I'm certainly willing to continue to try to help, but I'm really at a loss.
As I said in my last post, other than the information about caps, which did
not offend me:

I have no idea what's going on. If you never get valid NameSpace, Store or
Rules collection objects obviously the code will never fire the rule. But
the code to get those objects should just work.

You are running this in Outlook 2007, with nothing in the code other than
what's been shown, and no errors are fired?

Select Tools, Trust Center and select the Macro Security tab. What is the
setting there? What about on the Programmatic Access tab?

Something is drastically wrong with your setup or there's something going on
that we're not being told about. Otherwise at minimum the line setting
NameSpace would work.

The first thing, before any rules stuff, is that you should be getting a
valid NameSpace object. If you aren't then something is drastically wrong
that must be corrected before any of your code will run at all. I'd be
curious about the security settings as I asked, and I'd also be curious to
see if you are running an anti-virus program that maybe is breaking code
with a script stopper.

--
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Professional Programming Outlook 2007.
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options.
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm


"DLGolfs" wrote in message
...
Well , I answered you some time ago so I guess you have given up on me.
Sorry I don't know how to program, I put what you wrote and it did not
work.
I really thought that is what the disussion groups are for, to help people
like me who know nothing about programming. I guess I'll have to try
someone
else to give me the answer.

If you were offended by the CAPS, then I don't kow what to say about that!
WHy would I do someone to offend someone who is helping me? Truth is, i
wouldn't.
Oh well so be it.

.