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February 18th 07, 07:49 PM
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Rules to categorize mail OL2007
I have Outlook 2007. I have setup a rule to categorize my mail when it
arrives in the Inbox. Inexplicably this fails. It fails in spite of the fact that if I run the rule manually it works perfectly. I have the rule set with the highest priority. Does anyone know why this fails? JW 
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February 18th 07, 08:38 PM
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what type of email account? how does the rule read?
-- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/ Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/ Outlook Tips by email: Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: "Jerry West" wrote in message ... I have Outlook 2007. I have setup a rule to categorize my mail when it arrives in the Inbox. Inexplicably this fails. It fails in spite of the fact that if I run the rule manually it works perfectly. I have the rule set with the highest priority. Does anyone know why this fails? JW
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February 19th 07, 11:51 AM
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Jerry,
My 2007 experience is that message rules cannot be applied to HTTP accounts and have to be applied manually to POP accounts. John "Jerry West" wrote in message ... It is a POP3 account. how does the rule read? I assume you mean this located in the Rule description text box? "Apply this rule after the message arrives from assign it to the z category" Like I said, if I run the rule manually it works perfectly. JW "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message ... what type of email account? how does the rule read? -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/ Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/ Outlook Tips by email: Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: "Jerry West" wrote in message ... I have Outlook 2007. I have setup a rule to categorize my mail when it arrives in the Inbox. Inexplicably this fails. It fails in spite of the fact that if I run the rule manually it works perfectly. I have the rule set with the highest priority. Does anyone know why this fails? JW
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February 19th 07, 02:49 PM
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Rules to categorize mail OL2007
You experience is correct on HTTP, not on POP3. POP3, provided the entire
message is downloaded, should work fine on download. -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/ Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/ Outlook Tips by email: Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: "John Butler" wrote in message ... Jerry, My 2007 experience is that message rules cannot be applied to HTTP accounts and have to be applied manually to POP accounts. John "Jerry West" wrote in message ... It is a POP3 account. how does the rule read? I assume you mean this located in the Rule description text box? "Apply this rule after the message arrives from assign it to the z category" Like I said, if I run the rule manually it works perfectly. JW "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message ... what type of email account? how does the rule read? -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/ Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/ Outlook Tips by email: Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: "Jerry West" wrote in message ... I have Outlook 2007. I have setup a rule to categorize my mail when it arrives in the Inbox. Inexplicably this fails. It fails in spite of the fact that if I run the rule manually it works perfectly. I have the rule set with the highest priority. Does anyone know why this fails? JW
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February 19th 07, 03:08 PM
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Diane
Aye, there is the big snag. You have to download the whole message for the message rules to be applied! Better do it manually before scanning the messages, John "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message ... You experience is correct on HTTP, not on POP3. POP3, provided the entire message is downloaded, should work fine on download. -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/ Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/ Outlook Tips by email: Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: "John Butler" wrote in message ... Jerry, My 2007 experience is that message rules cannot be applied to HTTP accounts and have to be applied manually to POP accounts. John "Jerry West" wrote in message ... It is a POP3 account. how does the rule read? I assume you mean this located in the Rule description text box? "Apply this rule after the message arrives from assign it to the z category" Like I said, if I run the rule manually it works perfectly. JW "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message ... what type of email account? how does the rule read? -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/ Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/ Outlook Tips by email: Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: "Jerry West" wrote in message ... I have Outlook 2007. I have setup a rule to categorize my mail when it arrives in the Inbox. Inexplicably this fails. It fails in spite of the fact that if I run the rule manually it works perfectly. I have the rule set with the highest priority. Does anyone know why this fails? JW
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February 19th 07, 03:21 PM
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Rules to categorize mail OL2007
Well, rules really aren't intended to be an anti-spam solution, so if that
is your need, then yes, might as well go through the headers and delete what you want deleted. But for other purposes, like moving or tagging messages with categories, the full message is required whether you do it via rules or manually. -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/ Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/ Outlook Tips by email: Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: "John Butler" wrote in message ... Diane Aye, there is the big snag. You have to download the whole message for the message rules to be applied! Better do it manually before scanning the messages, John "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message ... You experience is correct on HTTP, not on POP3. POP3, provided the entire message is downloaded, should work fine on download. -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/ Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/ Outlook Tips by email: Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: "John Butler" wrote in message ... Jerry, My 2007 experience is that message rules cannot be applied to HTTP accounts and have to be applied manually to POP accounts. John "Jerry West" wrote in message ... It is a POP3 account. how does the rule read? I assume you mean this located in the Rule description text box? "Apply this rule after the message arrives from assign it to the z category" Like I said, if I run the rule manually it works perfectly. JW "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message ... what type of email account? how does the rule read? -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/ Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/ Outlook Tips by email: Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: "Jerry West" wrote in message ... I have Outlook 2007. I have setup a rule to categorize my mail when it arrives in the Inbox. Inexplicably this fails. It fails in spite of the fact that if I run the rule manually it works perfectly. I have the rule set with the highest priority. Does anyone know why this fails? JW
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February 19th 07, 04:02 PM
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Diane,
Yes I agree with your point, but well designed rules are one of the best anti-spam tools. John "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message ... Well, rules really aren't intended to be an anti-spam solution, so if that is your need, then yes, might as well go through the headers and delete what you want deleted. But for other purposes, like moving or tagging messages with categories, the full message is required whether you do it via rules or manually. -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/ Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/ Outlook Tips by email: Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: "John Butler" wrote in message ... Diane Aye, there is the big snag. You have to download the whole message for the message rules to be applied! Better do it manually before scanning the messages, John "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message ... You experience is correct on HTTP, not on POP3. POP3, provided the entire message is downloaded, should work fine on download. -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/ Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/ Outlook Tips by email: Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: "John Butler" wrote in message ... Jerry, My 2007 experience is that message rules cannot be applied to HTTP accounts and have to be applied manually to POP accounts. John "Jerry West" wrote in message ... It is a POP3 account. how does the rule read? I assume you mean this located in the Rule description text box? "Apply this rule after the message arrives from assign it to the z category" Like I said, if I run the rule manually it works perfectly. JW "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message ... what type of email account? how does the rule read? -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/ Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/ Outlook Tips by email: Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: "Jerry West" wrote in message ... I have Outlook 2007. I have setup a rule to categorize my mail when it arrives in the Inbox. Inexplicably this fails. It fails in spite of the fact that if I run the rule manually it works perfectly. I have the rule set with the highest priority. Does anyone know why this fails? JW
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February 19th 07, 05:20 PM
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Rules to categorize mail OL2007
Is this just an OL2007 issue or an issue w/categorization? I've never had
any issues using rules prior to this version. Other rules run just fine that are set to process items as they hit the Inbox. The emails that are downloading --that I setup a rule on-- are work related emails that are only a few K in size. If one must go to Tools | Rules & Alerts select the rule to run from the dialog box and then run it, well, doesn't that remove several layers of usefulness from the feature? One of the cool things about a rule is that it run automatically --at least it was one of the cool things about it. JW "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message ... You experience is correct on HTTP, not on POP3. POP3, provided the entire message is downloaded, should work fine on download. -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/ Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/ Outlook Tips by email: Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: "John Butler" wrote in message ... Jerry, My 2007 experience is that message rules cannot be applied to HTTP accounts and have to be applied manually to POP accounts. John "Jerry West" wrote in message ... It is a POP3 account. how does the rule read? I assume you mean this located in the Rule description text box? "Apply this rule after the message arrives from assign it to the z category" Like I said, if I run the rule manually it works perfectly. JW "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message ... what type of email account? how does the rule read? -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/ Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/ Outlook Tips by email: Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: "Jerry West" wrote in message ... I have Outlook 2007. I have setup a rule to categorize my mail when it arrives in the Inbox. Inexplicably this fails. It fails in spite of the fact that if I run the rule manually it works perfectly. I have the rule set with the highest priority. Does anyone know why this fails? JW
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February 20th 07, 12:21 PM
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Jerry
Just categorisation I think, reviewing the previous posts and my own experience "Jerry West" wrote in message ... Is this just an OL2007 issue or an issue w/categorization? I've never had any issues using rules prior to this version. Other rules run just fine that are set to process items as they hit the Inbox. The emails that are downloading --that I setup a rule on-- are work related emails that are only a few K in size. If one must go to Tools | Rules & Alerts select the rule to run from the dialog box and then run it, well, doesn't that remove several layers of usefulness from the feature? One of the cool things about a rule is that it run automatically --at least it was one of the cool things about it. JW "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message ... You experience is correct on HTTP, not on POP3. POP3, provided the entire message is downloaded, should work fine on download. -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/ Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/ Outlook Tips by email: Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: "John Butler" wrote in message ... Jerry, My 2007 experience is that message rules cannot be applied to HTTP accounts and have to be applied manually to POP accounts. John "Jerry West" wrote in message ... It is a POP3 account. how does the rule read? I assume you mean this located in the Rule description text box? "Apply this rule after the message arrives from assign it to the z category" Like I said, if I run the rule manually it works perfectly. JW "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message ... what type of email account? how does the rule read? -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/ Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/ Outlook Tips by email: Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: "Jerry West" wrote in message ... I have Outlook 2007. I have setup a rule to categorize my mail when it arrives in the Inbox. Inexplicably this fails. It fails in spite of the fact that if I run the rule manually it works perfectly. I have the rule set with the highest priority. Does anyone know why this fails? JW
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