"GESY" wrote in message
...
I downloaded the Magic Mail Monitor but I dont see the instructions
on how to used......

Where I find that, the help file talks about the making and filters,
that's all.


In Magic, start by right-clicking in the upper pane (used to display the
accounts) and add a new account. The File - New menu is used to create
a new profile rather than to add accounts within a profile. There is no
support for the product despite the author claiming it is not a defunct
product. He doesn't spend much time on it (he actually inherited it
from the original author and isn't very motivated). PopTray may do you
better since they have active forums (although the server is undersized
so response is slow) and the author does visit them.

I've tried PopTray several times but went back to Magic each time. The
first time was because their header filter did not work which is what I
use to check for a tag header added by SpamPal to denote which mails are
spam. Another defect was that there is no stop-clause that you can add
in PopTray's rules so ALL of them get exercised against each mail and
that may have undesirable effect. In Magic, the stop-clause is on by
default for every rule and you have to enable it to run other rules past
the one that triggers (to OR the rules together after that point).
Magic will cache a copy of a message when you choose to preview it
whereas PopTray will re-retrieve the mail each time you want to review
the same message (sometimes you'll view a message, do something, and
have to come back and look at the message again). However, that also
means that Magic can use up more memory than PopTray to retain the
cached copy of the downloaded mail (it doesn't download all mails but
only those you actually select to view within Magic). Although RFC 2822
says the maximum physical line length for each line within the raw data
for the body of a mail is 998 characters, some mail servers violate that
rule. When I found one of those (AJB for job listings) which made their
lines 1024 characters long, PopTray spewed a "max line length exceeded"
error when retrieving those e-mails. The max line length in the RFC is
only a recommendation, not a requirement. I can enable an option in
PopTray to ignore the error but that doesn't stop the error from
happening which means PopTray cannot retrieve that e-mail from my mail
server. PopTray has a problem if spammers attach a .gif file (in which
is the content of their spew) but the MIME part does not contain a
multiple of 4 octets as expected for Base64 decoding. Supposedly the
Base64 decoding problem was fixed in a beta version but I prefer not to
waste time on beta software. I don't remember the other problems with
PopTray but each time I ended up back to Magic Mail Monitor. The rules
are much better in PopTray plus I can have more than 2 conditions per
rule which is the maximum in Magic but Magic has been more than capable
of doing the job for me. So there are problems with PopTray but you may
not hit them and PopTray has an active forum where you can get help.
Other than PopTray and Magic, I don't know of other e-mail monitor
utilities that let you define rules and where they allow regular
expressions in their rules.

The help file (magic.chm, the same one called when you use the Help menu
within the program) explains more than just filters.

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Thanks, I got it going, I dint try Poptrail, and Magic looks like it is more
simple.
Anyway, the only reason I will used, is for what I told you before, now I
can see
( Tested already ) that person that I wanted to block, and can erase the
mail at the
server, then go with Outlook and get my mail like always.....

Thanks for your help !

"Vanguard" wrote in message
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"GESY" wrote in message
...
I downloaded the Magic Mail Monitor but I dont see the instructions
on how to used......

Where I find that, the help file talks about the making and filters,
that's all.


In Magic, start by right-clicking in the upper pane (used to display the
accounts) and add a new account. The File - New menu is used to create a
new profile rather than to add accounts within a profile. There is no
support for the product despite the author claiming it is not a defunct
product. He doesn't spend much time on it (he actually inherited it from
the original author and isn't very motivated). PopTray may do you better
since they have active forums (although the server is undersized so
response is slow) and the author does visit them.

I've tried PopTray several times but went back to Magic each time. The
first time was because their header filter did not work which is what I
use to check for a tag header added by SpamPal to denote which mails are
spam. Another defect was that there is no stop-clause that you can add in
PopTray's rules so ALL of them get exercised against each mail and that
may have undesirable effect. In Magic, the stop-clause is on by default
for every rule and you have to enable it to run other rules past the one
that triggers (to OR the rules together after that point). Magic will
cache a copy of a message when you choose to preview it whereas PopTray
will re-retrieve the mail each time you want to review the same message
(sometimes you'll view a message, do something, and have to come back and
look at the message again). However, that also means that Magic can use
up more memory than PopTray to retain the cached copy of the downloaded
mail (it doesn't download all mails but only those you actually select to
view within Magic). Although RFC 2822 says the maximum physical line
length for each line within the raw data for the body of a mail is 998
characters, some mail servers violate that rule. When I found one of
those (AJB for job listings) which made their lines 1024 characters long,
PopTray spewed a "max line length exceeded" error when retrieving those
e-mails. The max line length in the RFC is only a recommendation, not a
requirement. I can enable an option in PopTray to ignore the error but
that doesn't stop the error from happening which means PopTray cannot
retrieve that e-mail from my mail server. PopTray has a problem if
spammers attach a .gif file (in which is the content of their spew) but
the MIME part does not contain a multiple of 4 octets as expected for
Base64 decoding. Supposedly the Base64 decoding problem was fixed in a
beta version but I prefer not to waste time on beta software. I don't
remember the other problems with PopTray but each time I ended up back to
Magic Mail Monitor. The rules are much better in PopTray plus I can have
more than 2 conditions per rule which is the maximum in Magic but Magic
has been more than capable of doing the job for me. So there are problems
with PopTray but you may not hit them and PopTray has an active forum
where you can get help. Other than PopTray and Magic, I don't know of
other e-mail monitor utilities that let you define rules and where they
allow regular expressions in their rules.

The help file (magic.chm, the same one called when you use the Help menu
within the program) explains more than just filters.

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