A Microsoft Outlook email forum. Outlook Banter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » Outlook Banter forum » Microsoft Outlook Express Email Newsgroup » Outlook Express
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Messages Disappear when OE6 compacts



 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old December 20th 08, 02:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
[email protected]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1
Default Messages Disappear when OE6 compacts

For the 3rd time in 3 years, approximately 2 months worth of messages
just disappeared from my Outlook Express Inbox following a compact
process. I cannot find them anywhere, but perhaps I don't know the
correct place to look? All messages older than 2 months are still
there in the Inbox. I compact somewhat routinely, therefore this
isn't a frequent or consistent problem. And since it has occurred
over a 3-year window, it spans various update versions. I am
currently using OE6, 6.00.2900.2180 on a Dell XPS 400 PC (Windows XP
Home).
Thanks for any help or suggestions!
Ads
  #2  
Old December 20th 08, 03:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Bruce Hagen
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 10,210
Default Messages Disappear when OE6 compacts

The third time and you still don't back up OE? It would be less likely to
happen if you kept the Inbox empty.

The two most common reasons for what you describe is disruption of the
compacting process, (never touch anything until it's finished), or bloated
folders. More on that below.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

Why Mail Disappears:
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovery tools:

If you are running XP/SP2, or SP3, and are fully patched, then you should
have a backup of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, (or possibly the message
store), copied as bak files.

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first find the location
of the Message Store.

Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
your Outlook Express files. Write the location down and navigate to it in
Windows Explorer or, copy and paste it into Start | Run.

In WinXP, the .dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files in Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders under Start
| Control Panel | Folder Options | View.

Close OE and then in Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the
missing, or empty, folder and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted
later once you have successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the Message
Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the *exact* same
name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg: If the
file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the new folder
and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty, continue on to
the next step.

First, check if there is a bak file already in the message store. If there
is, and you removed the dbx file, go ahead and rename it to dbx.

If it isn't already in the message store, open the Recycle bin and right
click on the bak file for the folder in question and click Restore. Open the
message store back up and change the file extension from .bak to .dbx. Close
the message store and open OE. The messages should now be back in the
folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete the
old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

If you do not have bak copies of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, then:

DBXpress run in Extract From Disk Mode is the best chance to recover
messages:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

And see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4

A general warning to help avoid this in the futu

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant layer
of protection that eats up CPUs, slows down sending and receiving, and
causes a multitude of problems such as time-outs, account setting changes
and has even been responsible for lose of messages. Your up-to-date A/V
program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

And backup often.

Backup and Resto

http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

And this good one click backup program.

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB):

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


wrote in message
...
For the 3rd time in 3 years, approximately 2 months worth of messages
just disappeared from my Outlook Express Inbox following a compact
process. I cannot find them anywhere, but perhaps I don't know the
correct place to look? All messages older than 2 months are still
there in the Inbox. I compact somewhat routinely, therefore this
isn't a frequent or consistent problem. And since it has occurred
over a 3-year window, it spans various update versions. I am
currently using OE6, 6.00.2900.2180 on a Dell XPS 400 PC (Windows XP
Home).
Thanks for any help or suggestions!


  #3  
Old December 20th 08, 05:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear [MS MVP]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,647
Default Messages Disappear when OE6 compacts

Why it happens:

http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/probl...s.htm#mailgone
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovering the missing data: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx (#2 and #4)
and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069 (see Notes section under
Resolution)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DBXpress (faster, more powerful, with even greater functionality)
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Avoiding Such Corruption in Futu

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not attempt to
close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic Compacting
is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional protection:

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

wrote:
For the 3rd time in 3 years, approximately 2 months worth of messages
just disappeared from my Outlook Express Inbox following a compact
process. I cannot find them anywhere, but perhaps I don't know the
correct place to look? All messages older than 2 months are still
there in the Inbox. I compact somewhat routinely, therefore this
isn't a frequent or consistent problem. And since it has occurred
over a 3-year window, it spans various update versions. I am
currently using OE6, 6.00.2900.2180 on a Dell XPS 400 PC (Windows XP
Home).
Thanks for any help or suggestions!


  #4  
Old January 22nd 09, 03:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PhotoMan
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3
Default Messages Disappear when OE6 compacts

Whereas I can't help you with your problem, I have a similar one. Everytime
OE decides to do a compact / compression to save disc space, I end up losing
a complete month or two worth of (read) messages from my "IN" box. Today's
compression cost me the entire contents for October and November (2008).

This happens EVERY time OE compacts things.

OE version 6.00.290o.5512. XP Media Edition SP3


  #5  
Old January 22nd 09, 03:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Bruce Hagen
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 10,210
Default Messages Disappear when OE6 compacts

Who were you replying to? Never mind.

First, check the obvious. Go to the Inbox and click View | Current View |
Show All Messages.

If that was checked, then read on.

The two most common reasons for what you describe is disruption of the
compacting process, (never touch anything until it's finished), or bloated
folders. More on that below.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

Why Mail Disappears:
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovery tools:

If you are running XP/SP2, or SP3, and are fully patched, then you should
have a backup of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, (or possibly the message
store), copied as bak files.

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first find the location
of the Message Store.

Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
your Outlook Express files. Write the location down and navigate to it in
Windows Explorer or, copy and paste it into Start | Run.

In WinXP, the .dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files in Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders under Start
| Control Panel | Folder Options | View.

Close OE and then in Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the
missing, or empty, folder and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted
later once you have successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the Message
Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the *exact* same
name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg: If the
file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the new folder
and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty, continue on to
the next step.

First, check if there is a bak file already in the message store. If there
is, and you removed the dbx file, go ahead and rename it to dbx.

If it isn't already in the message store, open the Recycle bin and right
click on the bak file for the folder in question and click Restore. Open the
message store back up and change the file extension from .bak to .dbx. Close
the message store and open OE. The messages should now be back in the
folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete the
old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

If you do not have bak copies of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, then:

DBXpress run in Extract From Disk Mode is the best chance to recover
messages:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

And see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4

A general warning to help avoid this in the futu

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant layer
of protection that eats up CPUs, slows down sending and receiving, and
causes a multitude of problems such as time-outs, account setting changes
and has even been responsible for lose of messages. Your up-to-date A/V
program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

And backup often.

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB Freeware)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"PhotoMan" wrote in message
...
Whereas I can't help you with your problem, I have a similar one.
Everytime
OE decides to do a compact / compression to save disc space, I end up
losing
a complete month or two worth of (read) messages from my "IN" box.
Today's
compression cost me the entire contents for October and November (2008).

This happens EVERY time OE compacts things.

OE version 6.00.290o.5512. XP Media Edition SP3



  #6  
Old January 22nd 09, 04:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
D. Spencer Hines
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 215
Default Messages Disappear when OE6 compacts

Don't WAIT for it to compact.

Compact it YOURSELF -- frequently.

And move important messages to a unique folder you create -- as well as
backing them up.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"PhotoMan" wrote in message
...

Whereas I can't help you with your problem, I have a similar one.
Everytime
OE decides to do a compact / compression to save disc space, I end up
losing
a complete month or two worth of (read) messages from my "IN" box.
Today's
compression cost me the entire contents for October and November (2008).

This happens EVERY time OE compacts things.

OE version 6.00.290o.5512. XP Media Edition SP3



  #7  
Old January 22nd 09, 09:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PhotoMan
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3
Default Messages Disappear when OE6 compacts

Hello Bruce,

-XP w / SP3 and fully patched. All setting correct to show "all mesages".
-No work done on computer while (auto) compacting.
-Error message re can not compact -file is in use by another application
comes up twice. Click on "ok".
-Message Store is empty but .bak files are in the "Recycle Bin".
-There is no folder / entry there for OE's "Inbox" (Hotmail, yes, but not
OE. "Drafts" and "Sent Items" folders under Outlook Express / Local Folders
are also absent from the Recycle Bins' .bak entries).

Ted


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Who were you replying to? Never mind.

First, check the obvious. Go to the Inbox and click View | Current View |
Show All Messages.

If that was checked, then read on.

The two most common reasons for what you describe is disruption of the
compacting process, (never touch anything until it's finished), or bloated
folders. More on that below.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

Why Mail Disappears:
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovery tools:

If you are running XP/SP2, or SP3, and are fully patched, then you should
have a backup of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, (or possibly the message
store), copied as bak files.

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first find the location
of the Message Store.

Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
your Outlook Express files. Write the location down and navigate to it in
Windows Explorer or, copy and paste it into Start | Run.

In WinXP, the .dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files in Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders under Start
| Control Panel | Folder Options | View.

Close OE and then in Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the
missing, or empty, folder and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted
later once you have successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the Message
Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the *exact* same
name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg: If the
file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the new folder
and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty, continue on to
the next step.

First, check if there is a bak file already in the message store. If there
is, and you removed the dbx file, go ahead and rename it to dbx.

If it isn't already in the message store, open the Recycle bin and right
click on the bak file for the folder in question and click Restore. Open the
message store back up and change the file extension from .bak to .dbx. Close
the message store and open OE. The messages should now be back in the
folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete the
old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

If you do not have bak copies of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, then:

DBXpress run in Extract From Disk Mode is the best chance to recover
messages:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

And see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4

A general warning to help avoid this in the futu

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant layer
of protection that eats up CPUs, slows down sending and receiving, and
causes a multitude of problems such as time-outs, account setting changes
and has even been responsible for lose of messages. Your up-to-date A/V
program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

And backup often.

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB Freeware)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"PhotoMan" wrote in message
...
Whereas I can't help you with your problem, I have a similar one.
Everytime
OE decides to do a compact / compression to save disc space, I end up
losing
a complete month or two worth of (read) messages from my "IN" box.
Today's
compression cost me the entire contents for October and November (2008).

This happens EVERY time OE compacts things.

OE version 6.00.290o.5512. XP Media Edition SP3




  #8  
Old January 22nd 09, 01:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Steve Cochran
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,353
Default Messages Disappear when OE6 compacts

Its likely your antivirus software is responsible for this. Next time you
wish to compact, disable the antivirus software completely and then try
compacting and see if that fixes it. See www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

steve

"PhotoMan" wrote in message
...
Hello Bruce,

-XP w / SP3 and fully patched. All setting correct to show "all mesages".
-No work done on computer while (auto) compacting.
-Error message re can not compact -file is in use by another application
comes up twice. Click on "ok".
-Message Store is empty but .bak files are in the "Recycle Bin".
-There is no folder / entry there for OE's "Inbox" (Hotmail, yes, but not
OE. "Drafts" and "Sent Items" folders under Outlook Express / Local
Folders
are also absent from the Recycle Bins' .bak entries).

Ted


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Who were you replying to? Never mind.

First, check the obvious. Go to the Inbox and click View | Current View |
Show All Messages.

If that was checked, then read on.

The two most common reasons for what you describe is disruption of the
compacting process, (never touch anything until it's finished), or
bloated
folders. More on that below.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

Why Mail Disappears:
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovery tools:

If you are running XP/SP2, or SP3, and are fully patched, then you should
have a backup of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, (or possibly the
message
store), copied as bak files.

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first find the
location
of the Message Store.

Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
your Outlook Express files. Write the location down and navigate to it in
Windows Explorer or, copy and paste it into Start | Run.

In WinXP, the .dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files in Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders under
Start
| Control Panel | Folder Options | View.

Close OE and then in Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the
missing, or empty, folder and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted
later once you have successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the
Message
Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the *exact*
same
name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg: If the
file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the new
folder
and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty, continue on to
the next step.

First, check if there is a bak file already in the message store. If
there
is, and you removed the dbx file, go ahead and rename it to dbx.

If it isn't already in the message store, open the Recycle bin and right
click on the bak file for the folder in question and click Restore. Open
the
message store back up and change the file extension from .bak to .dbx.
Close
the message store and open OE. The messages should now be back in the
folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete
the
old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

If you do not have bak copies of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, then:

DBXpress run in Extract From Disk Mode is the best chance to recover
messages:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

And see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4

A general warning to help avoid this in the futu

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer
of protection that eats up CPUs, slows down sending and receiving, and
causes a multitude of problems such as time-outs, account setting changes
and has even been responsible for lose of messages. Your up-to-date A/V
program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

And backup often.

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB Freeware)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"PhotoMan" wrote in message
...
Whereas I can't help you with your problem, I have a similar one.
Everytime
OE decides to do a compact / compression to save disc space, I end up
losing
a complete month or two worth of (read) messages from my "IN" box.
Today's
compression cost me the entire contents for October and November
(2008).

This happens EVERY time OE compacts things.

OE version 6.00.290o.5512. XP Media Edition SP3





  #9  
Old January 22nd 09, 01:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PhotoMan
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3
Default Messages Disappear when OE6 compacts

I thought of that as well....about 10 seconds AFTER the last compacting (
running Norton Internet Security 2009. I was using Kaspersky &
Spysweeeper....with the same results)

Ted

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

Its likely your antivirus software is responsible for this. Next time you
wish to compact, disable the antivirus software completely and then try
compacting and see if that fixes it. See www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

steve

"PhotoMan" wrote in message
...
Hello Bruce,

-XP w / SP3 and fully patched. All setting correct to show "all mesages".
-No work done on computer while (auto) compacting.
-Error message re can not compact -file is in use by another application
comes up twice. Click on "ok".
-Message Store is empty but .bak files are in the "Recycle Bin".
-There is no folder / entry there for OE's "Inbox" (Hotmail, yes, but not
OE. "Drafts" and "Sent Items" folders under Outlook Express / Local
Folders
are also absent from the Recycle Bins' .bak entries).

Ted


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Who were you replying to? Never mind.

First, check the obvious. Go to the Inbox and click View | Current View |
Show All Messages.

If that was checked, then read on.

The two most common reasons for what you describe is disruption of the
compacting process, (never touch anything until it's finished), or
bloated
folders. More on that below.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

Why Mail Disappears:
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovery tools:

If you are running XP/SP2, or SP3, and are fully patched, then you should
have a backup of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, (or possibly the
message
store), copied as bak files.

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first find the
location
of the Message Store.

Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
your Outlook Express files. Write the location down and navigate to it in
Windows Explorer or, copy and paste it into Start | Run.

In WinXP, the .dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files in Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders under
Start
| Control Panel | Folder Options | View.

Close OE and then in Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the
missing, or empty, folder and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted
later once you have successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the
Message
Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the *exact*
same
name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg: If the
file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the new
folder
and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty, continue on to
the next step.

First, check if there is a bak file already in the message store. If
there
is, and you removed the dbx file, go ahead and rename it to dbx.

If it isn't already in the message store, open the Recycle bin and right
click on the bak file for the folder in question and click Restore. Open
the
message store back up and change the file extension from .bak to .dbx.
Close
the message store and open OE. The messages should now be back in the
folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete
the
old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

If you do not have bak copies of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, then:

DBXpress run in Extract From Disk Mode is the best chance to recover
messages:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

And see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4

A general warning to help avoid this in the futu

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer
of protection that eats up CPUs, slows down sending and receiving, and
causes a multitude of problems such as time-outs, account setting changes
and has even been responsible for lose of messages. Your up-to-date A/V
program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

And backup often.

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB Freeware)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"PhotoMan" wrote in message
...
Whereas I can't help you with your problem, I have a similar one.
Everytime
OE decides to do a compact / compression to save disc space, I end up
losing
a complete month or two worth of (read) messages from my "IN" box.
Today's
compression cost me the entire contents for October and November
(2008).

This happens EVERY time OE compacts things.

OE version 6.00.290o.5512. XP Media Edition SP3





  #10  
Old January 22nd 09, 03:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Bruce Hagen
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 10,210
Default Messages Disappear when OE6 compacts

Do you or do you not have bak files in the Recycle Bin? You contradict
yourself. Any bak files in the message store? We are talking non-Hotmail
folders.

If you do not have bak files for the folders with missing messages, you will
need DBXpress.

Are you using Kaspersky's anti-virus or just firewall? You do /not/ want two
AVs or firewalls running at the same time. Also, Norton is not compatible
with OE and I would advise it be removed.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"PhotoMan" wrote in message
...
Hello Bruce,

-XP w / SP3 and fully patched. All setting correct to show "all mesages".
-No work done on computer while (auto) compacting.
-Error message re can not compact -file is in use by another application
comes up twice. Click on "ok".
-Message Store is empty but .bak files are in the "Recycle Bin".
-There is no folder / entry there for OE's "Inbox" (Hotmail, yes, but not
OE. "Drafts" and "Sent Items" folders under Outlook Express / Local
Folders
are also absent from the Recycle Bins' .bak entries).

Ted


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Who were you replying to? Never mind.

First, check the obvious. Go to the Inbox and click View | Current View |
Show All Messages.

If that was checked, then read on.

The two most common reasons for what you describe is disruption of the
compacting process, (never touch anything until it's finished), or
bloated
folders. More on that below.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

Why Mail Disappears:
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovery tools:

If you are running XP/SP2, or SP3, and are fully patched, then you should
have a backup of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, (or possibly the
message
store), copied as bak files.

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first find the
location
of the Message Store.

Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
your Outlook Express files. Write the location down and navigate to it in
Windows Explorer or, copy and paste it into Start | Run.

In WinXP, the .dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files in Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders under
Start
| Control Panel | Folder Options | View.

Close OE and then in Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the
missing, or empty, folder and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted
later once you have successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the
Message
Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the *exact*
same
name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg: If the
file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the new
folder
and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty, continue on to
the next step.

First, check if there is a bak file already in the message store. If
there
is, and you removed the dbx file, go ahead and rename it to dbx.

If it isn't already in the message store, open the Recycle bin and right
click on the bak file for the folder in question and click Restore. Open
the
message store back up and change the file extension from .bak to .dbx.
Close
the message store and open OE. The messages should now be back in the
folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete
the
old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

If you do not have bak copies of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, then:

DBXpress run in Extract From Disk Mode is the best chance to recover
messages:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

And see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4

A general warning to help avoid this in the futu

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer
of protection that eats up CPUs, slows down sending and receiving, and
causes a multitude of problems such as time-outs, account setting changes
and has even been responsible for lose of messages. Your up-to-date A/V
program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

And backup often.

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB Freeware)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"PhotoMan" wrote in message
...
Whereas I can't help you with your problem, I have a similar one.
Everytime
OE decides to do a compact / compression to save disc space, I end up
losing
a complete month or two worth of (read) messages from my "IN" box.
Today's
compression cost me the entire contents for October and November
(2008).

This happens EVERY time OE compacts things.

OE version 6.00.290o.5512. XP Media Edition SP3





 




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
OE6 compacts on close always Mark Outlook Express 5 June 12th 07 01:28 AM
When I reply messages disappear from inbox sammierob Outlook - Installation 2 May 15th 07 11:08 PM
Inbox messages disappear bobster Outlook Express 3 January 21st 07 01:10 AM
Messages disappear from InBox after Read [email protected] Outlook - General Queries 1 July 13th 06 12:28 AM
OE messages disappear again! Outlook Express 5 June 21st 06 06:33 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 2.4.0
Copyright ©2004-2024 Outlook Banter.
The comments are property of their posters.