Outlook Express mail server reverts to 127.0.0.1 and name reverts to my full
email address. I can correct the pop server addres and name and then it
allows to get and send mail. How can I stop this from making these changes?
Thanks,
Mike

This is usually caused by scanning e-mail, or an anti-spam program.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant layer
of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems such as
time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V program will
continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"mike" wrote in message
...
Outlook Express mail server reverts to 127.0.0.1 and name reverts to my
full
email address. I can correct the pop server addres and name and then it
allows to get and send mail. How can I stop this from making these
changes?
Thanks,
Mike

Bruce,
The link below is very useful thanks. Does it apply to McAfee (there is a
new McAfee 'Security Centre' upgrade), as well as Symantec?
Regards,
Brett

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
This is usually caused by scanning e-mail, or an anti-spam program.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems
such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V program
will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"mike" wrote in message
...
Outlook Express mail server reverts to 127.0.0.1 and name reverts to my
full
email address. I can correct the pop server addres and name and then it
allows to get and send mail. How can I stop this from making these
changes?
Thanks,
Mike

Yes. Any and all antivirus software should have email scanning disabled.

steve

"brett" wrote in message
...
Bruce,
The link below is very useful thanks. Does it apply to McAfee (there is a
new McAfee 'Security Centre' upgrade), as well as Symantec?
Regards,
Brett

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
This is usually caused by scanning e-mail, or an anti-spam program.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems
such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V
program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"mike" wrote in message
...
Outlook Express mail server reverts to 127.0.0.1 and name reverts to my
full
email address. I can correct the pop server addres and name and then it
allows to get and send mail. How can I stop this from making these
changes?
Thanks,
Mike

[Note: Subject: changed.]

N. Miller wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:55:21 -0000, brett wrote:
[deleted]
The link below is very useful thanks. Does it apply to McAfee (there is a
new McAfee 'Security Centre' upgrade), as well as Symantec?

Yes. And I won't have either on any computer I control. Either Grisoft AVG
(version 7.5 free) or Alwil Avast (free). Each is installed using the
"Custom" option, and email scanning is unchecked. It is not necessary to
have email scanning installed.

FWIW, I have avast! (free Home Edition) and have email scanning
("Internet Mail") for OE *enabled* and have never had any problems with
it (while I *did* receive the occasional virus and deleted it from the
message(s)).

Indeed email scanning is not really *neccessary*, but I think that all
the talk about email scanning causing *problems* (with OE) is mainly
FUD. If anything should *not* matter, it's scanning(/fixing/deleting) of
incoming/outgoing *messages*.

Specifically item "3. Turn off email scanning in your antivirus
software." at http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3 is IMO mostly FUD.

It talks about turning off e-mail scanning, but gives as the reason
the possible "destruction of an entire message folder or the entire
message store, when it attempts to remove a message containing a
potential virus" and "Because of the fragility of the OE message store
structure and its propensity for destruction, this applies to just about
any antivirus program that touches the OE message store.".

But *why* would AV software which is scanning incoming/outgoing e-mail
*messages* "touch the OE message store" i.e. the *.dbx files*?

It isn't "touching the OE message store", but is scanning the incoming
(POP3) or outgoing (SMTP) *data* which is *not-yet*/*not-anymore* in the
OE message store.

The second Symantec link [1] in the item even refers to a Symantec
article which *specifically* explains that the incoming/outgoing
messages are put in *temporary* files, i.e. *not* the OE message store,
before scanning. How on earth can the scanning/fixing/deleting of
*temporary* files affect the *.dbx* files?

[1]
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/d4578f66d8f00a0188256d4e006aaa94/4ba5fc8ef939c44c88256c7500723cf0?OpenDocument&src= bar_sch_nam

My earlier ""Turn off email scanning": Fact or fiction?" response.

Bruce Hagen wrote:
This is usually caused by scanning e-mail, or an anti-spam program.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant layer
of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems such as
time-outs and account setting changes.

*These*, i.e. "time-outs and account setting changes" are actually
*valid* reasons, but they are *not* mentioned in the below referenced
article/item (http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3). Sorry for not
mentioning that in my earlier response.

Your up-to-date A/V program will continue to protect you sufficiently.

(As mentioned before,) Agreed.

For more, see: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

You can leave it on if you like.

Suppose an antivirus program finds a virus in a dbx file. What does it do?
It wipes out the file and fills it with zeroes. So ALL YOUR MESSAGES ARE
LOST because of the stinkin' antivirus software.

There is a HUGE history of McAfee, Symantec, and many many other antivirus
products causign this behavior.

You can believe what you like and if you want to screw up your system, leave
email scanning enabled, but you aren't going to change the reality of the
situation with your own beliefs.

steve

"Frank Slootweg" wrote in message
...
[Note: Subject: changed.]

N. Miller wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:55:21 -0000, brett wrote:
[deleted]
The link below is very useful thanks. Does it apply to McAfee (there
is a
new McAfee 'Security Centre' upgrade), as well as Symantec?

Yes. And I won't have either on any computer I control. Either Grisoft
AVG
(version 7.5 free) or Alwil Avast (free). Each is installed using the
"Custom" option, and email scanning is unchecked. It is not necessary to
have email scanning installed.

FWIW, I have avast! (free Home Edition) and have email scanning
("Internet Mail") for OE *enabled* and have never had any problems with
it (while I *did* receive the occasional virus and deleted it from the
message(s)).

Indeed email scanning is not really *neccessary*, but I think that all
the talk about email scanning causing *problems* (with OE) is mainly
FUD. If anything should *not* matter, it's scanning(/fixing/deleting) of
incoming/outgoing *messages*.

Specifically item "3. Turn off email scanning in your antivirus
software." at http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3 is IMO mostly FUD.

It talks about turning off e-mail scanning, but gives as the reason
the possible "destruction of an entire message folder or the entire
message store, when it attempts to remove a message containing a
potential virus" and "Because of the fragility of the OE message store
structure and its propensity for destruction, this applies to just about
any antivirus program that touches the OE message store.".

But *why* would AV software which is scanning incoming/outgoing e-mail
*messages* "touch the OE message store" i.e. the *.dbx files*?

It isn't "touching the OE message store", but is scanning the incoming
(POP3) or outgoing (SMTP) *data* which is *not-yet*/*not-anymore* in the
OE message store.

The second Symantec link [1] in the item even refers to a Symantec
article which *specifically* explains that the incoming/outgoing
messages are put in *temporary* files, i.e. *not* the OE message store,
before scanning. How on earth can the scanning/fixing/deleting of
*temporary* files affect the *.dbx* files?

[1]
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/d4578f66d8f00a0188256d4e006aaa94/4ba5fc8ef939c44c88256c7500723cf0?OpenDocument&src= bar_sch_nam

Perhaps you need to talk with the countless people who used the AV email
scanning and lost their messages and corrupted OE. Corroborated for many
years in this newsgroup.

I personally know several of my friends who had the issues.

You are preaching FUD.


"Frank Slootweg" wrote in message
...
| [Note: Subject: changed.]
|
| N. Miller wrote:
| On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:55:21 -0000, brett wrote:
| [deleted]
| The link below is very useful thanks. Does it apply to McAfee (there
is a
| new McAfee 'Security Centre' upgrade), as well as Symantec?
|
| Yes. And I won't have either on any computer I control. Either Grisoft
AVG
| (version 7.5 free) or Alwil Avast (free). Each is installed using the
| "Custom" option, and email scanning is unchecked. It is not necessary to
| have email scanning installed.
|
| FWIW, I have avast! (free Home Edition) and have email scanning
| ("Internet Mail") for OE *enabled* and have never had any problems with
| it (while I *did* receive the occasional virus and deleted it from the
| message(s)).
|
| Indeed email scanning is not really *neccessary*, but I think that all
| the talk about email scanning causing *problems* (with OE) is mainly
| FUD. If anything should *not* matter, it's scanning(/fixing/deleting) of
| incoming/outgoing *messages*.
|
| Specifically item "3. Turn off email scanning in your antivirus
| software." at http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3 is IMO mostly FUD.
|
| It talks about turning off e-mail scanning, but gives as the reason
| the possible "destruction of an entire message folder or the entire
| message store, when it attempts to remove a message containing a
| potential virus" and "Because of the fragility of the OE message store
| structure and its propensity for destruction, this applies to just about
| any antivirus program that touches the OE message store.".
|
| But *why* would AV software which is scanning incoming/outgoing e-mail
| *messages* "touch the OE message store" i.e. the *.dbx files*?
|
| It isn't "touching the OE message store", but is scanning the incoming
| (POP3) or outgoing (SMTP) *data* which is *not-yet*/*not-anymore* in the
| OE message store.
|
| The second Symantec link [1] in the item even refers to a Symantec
| article which *specifically* explains that the incoming/outgoing
| messages are put in *temporary* files, i.e. *not* the OE message store,
| before scanning. How on earth can the scanning/fixing/deleting of
| *temporary* files affect the *.dbx* files?
|
| [1]
|
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/d4578f66d8f00a0188256d4e006aaa94/4ba5fc8ef939c44c88256c7500723cf0?OpenDocument&src= bar_sch_nam

I am a just a novice who hopes the software from a reliable source is fit
for purpose and will bow to superior expertise and experience(s).

I have turned off em scanning and spam but OE is very slow to open with
little windows popping up showing 'x of y messages being validated' and
this takes ages.
Thanks all - Brett

"Frank Slootweg" wrote in message
...
My earlier ""Turn off email scanning": Fact or fiction?" response.

Bruce Hagen wrote:
This is usually caused by scanning e-mail, or an anti-spam program.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer
of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems such
as
time-outs and account setting changes.

*These*, i.e. "time-outs and account setting changes" are actually
*valid* reasons, but they are *not* mentioned in the below referenced
article/item (http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3). Sorry for not
mentioning that in my earlier response.

Your up-to-date A/V program will continue to protect you sufficiently.

(As mentioned before,) Agreed.

For more, see: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"brett" wrote in message
...
I am a just a novice who hopes the software from a reliable source is fit
for purpose and will bow to superior expertise and experience(s).

I have turned off em scanning and spam but OE is very slow to open with
little windows popping up showing 'x of y messages being validated' and
this takes ages.


Then something is still scanning email. OE does not "validate" messages
(whatever that means).

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't expect an answer to email.