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to transfer OE 6 files to another XP computer
The keys are in the registry, so you have to use regedit.
The keys were backed up by OEQB in the backup directory, so you can manually merge them. But your original question that started this thread was about the Issues you were having on the new machine. I would go and just set up a new Identity and add your accounts there and see that it works and then you can use File | Import | Messages to import the messages from the old Identity or you can try importing from the backup of the old machine. I don't really know at this point what the problem after all the messages in this thread, so I got back to the original question. steve "Jack B" wrote in message ... Steve, delete the Identities, the IAM, the WAB keys in the registry. Is that a regedit operation or merely go to Documents and Settings\Jack\Local Settings\Applications Data\Identities and delete those Identities? merge them back from the older machine I can't visualize that. You mean copy the Identities from the Old pc and paste into the New pc at Documents and Settings\Jack\Local Settings\Applications Data\Identities? Jack ===================================== "Steve Cochran" wrote in message ... No, I meant on the new machine. If you clear the current registry settings by backing up what apparently is a mess right now, and then delete the current keys, then you can merge them back from the older machine. Then copy the dbx files to the location that is set under the "Store Root" value under the Identities key. (see www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx and http://www.insideoe.com/files/ for background. See if that helps. steve "Jack B" wrote in message ... Steve, Not sure what your start over point is. Do you mean go to Old pc and "...backing them up, delete the Identities, the IAM, the WAB keys in the registry. Etc"? Doing anything with Old pc is very problematic at this point. Also, are you saying use Windows Explore and go to Documents and Settings\Jack\Local Settings\Applications Data\Identities and delete those identies? But if New pc --- (1) How do you " Then merge the ones saved with OEQB"? What exactly does that mean? (2) Also, you say "Then copy the dbx files and wab file to the proper locations" -- since I don't understand (1), I'm not sure just where I'm copying from and where to. I assume you're saying copy them to the proper store location in the current working OE identity. Please help me see exactly what you're saying here. Thanks. Jack ================================ "Steve Cochran" wrote in message ... I would start over. After backing them up, delete the Identities, the IAM, the WAB keys in the registry. Then merge the ones saved with OEQB. Then copy the dbx files and wab file to the proper locations (make sure you clear their readonly attribute). Then see if things work. If needed, then you can replace the faulty wab file with the other one. steve "Jack B" wrote in message ... Since things with my OE aren't perfect at this point, do you see any downside to trying this: Paste "Jack.wab of 2.6 MB" into the backup file of OEFB (or the backup file of OEQB) thus replacing the "Jack.wab of 2.7 MB" and then doing a a OEFB (or OEQB) complete restore? Jack ========================= "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... "Jack B" wrote in message ... Bruce, What spell check were you using? Word 97, same as on previous pc, and Word is performing spell check for Word documents. However, this pc had Open Office already installed. I wonder if that's got something to do with it? Could be Open Office. It's relatively new. Worse case scenario, you could use a freeware spell check. I do. (Try the new identity first). Vampirefo Spell Check. Download it from Major Geeks: http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=2952 Or download it from SnapFile: http://www.snapfiles.com/get/spelloe.html Or you may like TinySpell. (Checks the spelling as you type). Download it he http://www.tinyspell.m6.net/ OE is part of your Windows OS and the only way to reinstall it is to reinstall the OS. What is the sense of MS doing that!? It's been that way from the old Microsoft Mail, (pre OE), right up through Vista. Win7 does not include a native e-mail client, (Antdeveryone bitches about that). Anyway, I see there are some who advise a trick for reinstalling: http://www.tweakxp.com/article37258.aspx http://www.softwaretipsandtricks.com...look-Express-6 What do yoiu think? Those are actually repairs, and they only wprked fpr SP1a and earlier, IIRC. Look at the date of the first link. 2002. Creating a new identity gives you all new dbx files and registry entries. Not much different than the old Repair & Reinstall, but a heck of a lot easier. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA Jack ================================ "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... instead of 300+ name address listings I have 900+ I don't know if that is expected behavior or not. In the seven years posting to OE, I have never run across this. Furthermore, none of the folders were imported, Neither your groups or folders should have imported. There is a workaround for that. Courtesy of Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express Create a "standalone" WAB file: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/files/wab.htm#wabexe Then open your default address book to the group desired and select all member of the group and copy them to the clipboard (Ctrl+A selects all, Ctrl+C copies them to the clipboard). Then open your "standalone" WAB file and paste the contacts into that file (you will have to hit the Enter key to OK each entry but it beats typing) and then either copy that wab file to a floppy disc or export it as CSV file. Otherwise, folders and groups neither import, nor export. At this point I just have Main identity. I could create Jack identity, eliminate Main and try again. Might as well. The Main identity is more prone to corruption due to some extra registry keys. I always set up a new named identity any time I reinstalled Windows and skipped the main identity right from the start. Also, OE is still not performing Spell Check, and it is not showing the images in received emails. Perhaps I should try to reinstall OE. OE is part of your Windows OS and the only way to reinstall it is to reinstall the OS. Make sure you're reading in HTML and "Block images........" is not checked in Tools | Options | Security. What spell check were you using? OE doesn't have its own and relies on Word or a third party app. Some good Address Book reading he http://www.insideoe.com/files/wab.htm -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA "Jack B" wrote in message ... Bruce, No, I hadn't done that, but now did it. That did pull in ALL the addesses but list them separately -- is that what is expected? That is, now instead of 300+ name address listings I have 900+ because every name with more than only one address is now listed separately (their name is listed for the default address and again for each other address that is not the default address). Naturally, this makes me guess which is really the current defualt address ( I can figure that out, of course, by opening Jack.wab of 2.6 and going thru each name). Furthermore, none of the folders were imported, so everybody is still lumped together. Interestingly, where there were some Groups, it seems the name is listed once with the current (default) address. But as you know, when sending emails, yoiu can't pull separate names out of a Group, only Folders. So, again, is this what's expected? At this point I just have Main identity. I could create Jack identity, eliminate Main and try again. Also, OE is still not performing Spell Check, and it is not showing the images in received emails. Perhaps I should try to reinstall OE. Jack ============================ "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... I don't know if you have done this yet, but copy the good Jack.wab of 2.6 MB to the Desktop. Open up OE and then open the Address Book. From there, File | Import | Address Book (wab) and point to where you saved it. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA "Jack B" wrote in message ... Well, as it turns out, the address book is not right -- it's missing the latest email addresses. I kept the old email addresses for people so I could do a search in the past if needed, and of course made the most current one the default. But my little trick "copied and pasted into \...Microsoft\Address Book\ and voila" produced an address book without the latest email addresses. That is weird, because when I double click on "Jack.wab of 2.6 MB on the external HD," the correct email addresses show up. Rats. Jack ===================================== "Jack B" wrote in message ... Steve, First, I just want to say that essentially all the data files (created documants, including images, etc.) have been transferred from the Old PC to the New PC. I did a major backup to an external HD at the end of March. Ok -- I did the search for *~* and that turned up a lot of files. I was surprised to see a number of such files in a Microsoft Feeds folder -- is that normal? Almost all such files are dated on the day I set up the New PC. Some of the others are sort of weird, i.e., billingtypes.php~ which is supposed to be in tools/modules/billing and that is the entire HD address given!? FYI, billingtypes.php~ is dated a month earlier. Anyway, the Jack.wab~ was only 176 kb, not even close to the Jack.wab of 2.7 MB. And it didn't work. Also, finding and clicking the the Jack.wab of 2.7 MB in the OEFB folder, it failed to open. Plus, I later (after doing OEFB) used OEQB on the Old PC and pasted the backup results into the New PC, and now finding and clicking the the Jack.wab of 2.7 MB in the OEQB Backup folder, it also failed to open. [Note: I have not attempted the OEQB Restore on the New PC.] BUT, I did find the Jack.wab of 2.6 MB on the external HD; and, upon clicking the the Jack.wab of 2.6 MB, it opened. So, I copied and pasted into \...Microsoft\Address Book\ and voila -- OE on the New PC now works (I can SEND and I have the address book)! Yeaay!! However, all 300+ addresses in the Address Book are not in their respective folders -- the're all lumped together into one folder . And, of course, at this point I don't have all my previous messages and identities and email accounts in OE. So, I'm thinking I can't lose anything by attempting an OEQB Restore on the New PC -- although I know the Jack.wab of 2.7 MB in the OEQB Backup file is no good, I could once again paste the Jack.wab of 2.6 MB into \...Microsoft\Address Book\ after doing the OEQB Restore on the New PC. What do you think? Also, FYI, the Spell Check is not working. I get "An error occurred while the spelling was being checked." Jack ================================== "Steve Cochran" wrote in message ... Try searching for *~* and if you find a file, then rename it to give it a wab file extension and then see if it will open. The ~ files are backups of the address book. steve "Jack B" wrote in message ... Thanks, but in OE, when I click to open Address Book, I get "The Address Book failed to load. Outlook Express is incorrectly configured. Please re-install." Nonetheless, I am able to find the JACKB.WAB file, and the Read Only attribute is not checked. BTW, can you actually reply to this newsgroup thru http://groups.google.com/group/micro...se_frm/thread? If so, I don't see how. Jack ============================= "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... Complate & complicated thread history suggesting you used the no-longer-supported OEFB backup from your old computer to migrate your OE data to your new computer: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...f6a5a24cacdfae Here's another possibility: 1. Open Address Book | click on Help | about: Write down the location displayed in the FILE box. 2. Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' via Start | Control Panel | Folder Options | View (cf. http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tuto...torial62.html). 3. Close OE. 4. In Windows Explorer, navigate to the location you wrote down in #1 above | right-click on the WAB file (e.g., JACKB.WAB) | select Properties | remove the Read Only attribute (if checked/enabled) & OK your way out. cf. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/269777 Jack B wrote: Robear -- If so, is there a DWORD named UseOutlook No, here is what is in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\WAB4: (Default) REG_SZ (Value not set) FirstRun REG_DWORD 0x00000001(1) OlkContactRefresh REG_DWORD 0x00000000(0) OlkFolderRefresh REG_DWORD 0x00000000(0) Jack ============================== "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... canned . Do you have this Registry key?... HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\WAB4 . If not, STOP; If so, is there a DWORD named UseOutlook (NB: no space) and is its value set to 1 (one)? . If not, STOP; If so, Address Book is configured to share contacts with Outlook, even if you don't use it (can happen with the install of Office). Change the value to 0 (zero), close REGEDIT & reboot: Address Book should be available to you and all should be well. (If that DWORD is not present, don't create it, and don't alter any other DWORD values.) Note that any changes (additions, deletions, edits) made while sharing was enabled will not be available (displayed) in Address Book when sharing is disabled. cf. http://www.insideoe.com/files/wab.htm#share and/or http://support.microsoft.com/kb/191946 /canned Jack B wrote: The only "Outlook" I find with Search is a folder "Outlook" at MSOffice97\Office\Templates\Outlook\ -- in that folder there are several .oft files and one .dir file, but there is no outlook.exe file on the pc. And, no other "Outlook" turns up in Search except two shortcut files that look for Outlook.exe. The reason for this is no doubt due to my adding the template files etc. from the Old pc after installing MS Office Pro 97 on the new pc. When first loading OE on the new pc, there may have been a question re Outlook that I might have answered the wrong way. Jack ======================== "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... Is MS Outlook also installed? Jack B wrote: Somehow I have messed up OE on the New pc. At first, it did not open an Address Book. Upon clicking on Address Book it would say, "Unable to open Address Book. The Address Book may not be installed properly." Secondly, I cannot send a response or a new message. It says, "There was an error opening this message. An error has occurred." Apparently I need to reinstall it, but I can't even find it via Control Panel/Add Remove Programs! Jack |
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Steve, set up a new Identity and add your accounts there and see that it works Same problems with a new identity. 1) I keep getting "OE is not your default mail client" and I click the box/button to make the default, and it seems like it takes but it really doesen't. 2) Spell check fails to work. 3) Clicking email links on websites fails to work. 4) When I set up a new Identity, OE says it has found other to import messages and addreess book from, but only offers the one combined choice of Outlook, Windows Messaging, & something else, but, when I choose that, it says something like "can't use that MAPI source" (not exactly those words). So a new Identity has the same problems. Jack ============================= "Steve Cochran" wrote in message news The keys are in the registry, so you have to use regedit. The keys were backed up by OEQB in the backup directory, so you can manually merge them. But your original question that started this thread was about the Issues you were having on the new machine. I would go and just set up a new Identity and add your accounts there and see that it works and then you can use File | Import | Messages to import the messages from the old Identity or you can try importing from the backup of the old machine. I don't really know at this point what the problem after all the messages in this thread, so I got back to the original question. steve "Jack B" wrote in message ... Steve, delete the Identities, the IAM, the WAB keys in the registry. Is that a regedit operation or merely go to Documents and Settings\Jack\Local Settings\Applications Data\Identities and delete those Identities? merge them back from the older machine I can't visualize that. You mean copy the Identities from the Old pc and paste into the New pc at Documents and Settings\Jack\Local Settings\Applications Data\Identities? Jack ===================================== "Steve Cochran" wrote in message ... No, I meant on the new machine. If you clear the current registry settings by backing up what apparently is a mess right now, and then delete the current keys, then you can merge them back from the older machine. Then copy the dbx files to the location that is set under the "Store Root" value under the Identities key. (see www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx and http://www.insideoe.com/files/ for background. See if that helps. steve "Jack B" wrote in message ... Steve, Not sure what your start over point is. Do you mean go to Old pc and "...backing them up, delete the Identities, the IAM, the WAB keys in the registry. Etc"? Doing anything with Old pc is very problematic at this point. Also, are you saying use Windows Explore and go to Documents and Settings\Jack\Local Settings\Applications Data\Identities and delete those identies? But if New pc --- (1) How do you " Then merge the ones saved with OEQB"? What exactly does that mean? (2) Also, you say "Then copy the dbx files and wab file to the proper locations" -- since I don't understand (1), I'm not sure just where I'm copying from and where to. I assume you're saying copy them to the proper store location in the current working OE identity. Please help me see exactly what you're saying here. Thanks. Jack ================================ "Steve Cochran" wrote in message ... I would start over. After backing them up, delete the Identities, the IAM, the WAB keys in the registry. Then merge the ones saved with OEQB. Then copy the dbx files and wab file to the proper locations (make sure you clear their readonly attribute). Then see if things work. If needed, then you can replace the faulty wab file with the other one. steve "Jack B" wrote in message ... Since things with my OE aren't perfect at this point, do you see any downside to trying this: Paste "Jack.wab of 2.6 MB" into the backup file of OEFB (or the backup file of OEQB) thus replacing the "Jack.wab of 2.7 MB" and then doing a a OEFB (or OEQB) complete restore? Jack ========================= "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... "Jack B" wrote in message ... Bruce, What spell check were you using? Word 97, same as on previous pc, and Word is performing spell check for Word documents. However, this pc had Open Office already installed. I wonder if that's got something to do with it? Could be Open Office. It's relatively new. Worse case scenario, you could use a freeware spell check. I do. (Try the new identity first). Vampirefo Spell Check. Download it from Major Geeks: http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=2952 Or download it from SnapFile: http://www.snapfiles.com/get/spelloe.html Or you may like TinySpell. (Checks the spelling as you type). Download it he http://www.tinyspell.m6.net/ OE is part of your Windows OS and the only way to reinstall it is to reinstall the OS. What is the sense of MS doing that!? It's been that way from the old Microsoft Mail, (pre OE), right up through Vista. Win7 does not include a native e-mail client, (Antdeveryone bitches about that). Anyway, I see there are some who advise a trick for reinstalling: http://www.tweakxp.com/article37258.aspx http://www.softwaretipsandtricks.com...look-Express-6 What do yoiu think? Those are actually repairs, and they only wprked fpr SP1a and earlier, IIRC. Look at the date of the first link. 2002. Creating a new identity gives you all new dbx files and registry entries. Not much different than the old Repair & Reinstall, but a heck of a lot easier. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA Jack ================================ "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... instead of 300+ name address listings I have 900+ I don't know if that is expected behavior or not. In the seven years posting to OE, I have never run across this. Furthermore, none of the folders were imported, Neither your groups or folders should have imported. There is a workaround for that. Courtesy of Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express Create a "standalone" WAB file: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/files/wab.htm#wabexe Then open your default address book to the group desired and select all member of the group and copy them to the clipboard (Ctrl+A selects all, Ctrl+C copies them to the clipboard). Then open your "standalone" WAB file and paste the contacts into that file (you will have to hit the Enter key to OK each entry but it beats typing) and then either copy that wab file to a floppy disc or export it as CSV file. Otherwise, folders and groups neither import, nor export. At this point I just have Main identity. I could create Jack identity, eliminate Main and try again. Might as well. The Main identity is more prone to corruption due to some extra registry keys. I always set up a new named identity any time I reinstalled Windows and skipped the main identity right from the start. Also, OE is still not performing Spell Check, and it is not showing the images in received emails. Perhaps I should try to reinstall OE. OE is part of your Windows OS and the only way to reinstall it is to reinstall the OS. Make sure you're reading in HTML and "Block images........" is not checked in Tools | Options | Security. What spell check were you using? OE doesn't have its own and relies on Word or a third party app. Some good Address Book reading he http://www.insideoe.com/files/wab.htm -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA "Jack B" wrote in message ... Bruce, No, I hadn't done that, but now did it. That did pull in ALL the addesses but list them separately -- is that what is expected? That is, now instead of 300+ name address listings I have 900+ because every name with more than only one address is now listed separately (their name is listed for the default address and again for each other address that is not the default address). Naturally, this makes me guess which is really the current defualt address ( I can figure that out, of course, by opening Jack.wab of 2.6 and going thru each name). Furthermore, none of the folders were imported, so everybody is still lumped together. Interestingly, where there were some Groups, it seems the name is listed once with the current (default) address. But as you know, when sending emails, yoiu can't pull separate names out of a Group, only Folders. So, again, is this what's expected? At this point I just have Main identity. I could create Jack identity, eliminate Main and try again. Also, OE is still not performing Spell Check, and it is not showing the images in received emails. Perhaps I should try to reinstall OE. Jack ============================ "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... I don't know if you have done this yet, but copy the good Jack.wab of 2.6 MB to the Desktop. Open up OE and then open the Address Book. From there, File | Import | Address Book (wab) and point to where you saved it. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA "Jack B" wrote in message ... Well, as it turns out, the address book is not right -- it's missing the latest email addresses. I kept the old email addresses for people so I could do a search in the past if needed, and of course made the most current one the default. But my little trick "copied and pasted into \...Microsoft\Address Book\ and voila" produced an address book without the latest email addresses. That is weird, because when I double click on "Jack.wab of 2.6 MB on the external HD," the correct email addresses show up. Rats. Jack ===================================== "Jack B" wrote in message ... Steve, First, I just want to say that essentially all the data files (created documants, including images, etc.) have been transferred from the Old PC to the New PC. I did a major backup to an external HD at the end of March. Ok -- I did the search for *~* and that turned up a lot of files. I was surprised to see a number of such files in a Microsoft Feeds folder -- is that normal? Almost all such files are dated on the day I set up the New PC. Some of the others are sort of weird, i.e., billingtypes.php~ which is supposed to be in tools/modules/billing and that is the entire HD address given!? FYI, billingtypes.php~ is dated a month earlier. Anyway, the Jack.wab~ was only 176 kb, not even close to the Jack.wab of 2.7 MB. And it didn't work. Also, finding and clicking the the Jack.wab of 2.7 MB in the OEFB folder, it failed to open. Plus, I later (after doing OEFB) used OEQB on the Old PC and pasted the backup results into the New PC, and now finding and clicking the the Jack.wab of 2.7 MB in the OEQB Backup folder, it also failed to open. [Note: I have not attempted the OEQB Restore on the New PC.] BUT, I did find the Jack.wab of 2.6 MB on the external HD; and, upon clicking the the Jack.wab of 2.6 MB, it opened. So, I copied and pasted into \...Microsoft\Address Book\ and voila -- OE on the New PC now works (I can SEND and I have the address book)! Yeaay!! However, all 300+ addresses in the Address Book are not in their respective folders -- the're all lumped together into one folder . And, of course, at this point I don't have all my previous messages and identities and email accounts in OE. So, I'm thinking I can't lose anything by attempting an OEQB Restore on the New PC -- although I know the Jack.wab of 2.7 MB in the OEQB Backup file is no good, I could once again paste the Jack.wab of 2.6 MB into \...Microsoft\Address Book\ after doing the OEQB Restore on the New PC. What do you think? Also, FYI, the Spell Check is not working. I get "An error occurred while the spelling was being checked." Jack ================================== "Steve Cochran" wrote in message ... Try searching for *~* and if you find a file, then rename it to give it a wab file extension and then see if it will open. The ~ files are backups of the address book. steve "Jack B" wrote in message ... Thanks, but in OE, when I click to open Address Book, I get "The Address Book failed to load. Outlook Express is incorrectly configured. Please re-install." Nonetheless, I am able to find the JACKB.WAB file, and the Read Only attribute is not checked. BTW, can you actually reply to this newsgroup thru http://groups.google.com/group/micro...se_frm/thread? If so, I don't see how. Jack ============================= "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... Complate & complicated thread history suggesting you used the no-longer-supported OEFB backup from your old computer to migrate your OE data to your new computer: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...f6a5a24cacdfae Here's another possibility: 1. Open Address Book | click on Help | about: Write down the location displayed in the FILE box. 2. Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' via Start | Control Panel | Folder Options | View (cf. http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tuto...torial62.html). 3. Close OE. 4. In Windows Explorer, navigate to the location you wrote down in #1 above | right-click on the WAB file (e.g., JACKB.WAB) | select Properties | remove the Read Only attribute (if checked/enabled) & OK your way out. cf. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/269777 Jack B wrote: Robear -- If so, is there a DWORD named UseOutlook No, here is what is in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\WAB4: (Default) REG_SZ (Value not set) FirstRun REG_DWORD 0x00000001(1) OlkContactRefresh REG_DWORD 0x00000000(0) OlkFolderRefresh REG_DWORD 0x00000000(0) Jack ============================== "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... canned . Do you have this Registry key?... HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\WAB4 . If not, STOP; If so, is there a DWORD named UseOutlook (NB: no space) and is its value set to 1 (one)? . If not, STOP; If so, Address Book is configured to share contacts with Outlook, even if you don't use it (can happen with the install of Office). Change the value to 0 (zero), close REGEDIT & reboot: Address Book should be available to you and all should be well. (If that DWORD is not present, don't create it, and don't alter any other DWORD values.) Note that any changes (additions, deletions, edits) made while sharing was enabled will not be available (displayed) in Address Book when sharing is disabled. cf. http://www.insideoe.com/files/wab.htm#share and/or http://support.microsoft.com/kb/191946 /canned Jack B wrote: The only "Outlook" I find with Search is a folder "Outlook" at MSOffice97\Office\Templates\Outlook\ -- in that folder there are several .oft files and one .dir file, but there is no outlook.exe file on the pc. And, no other "Outlook" turns up in Search except two shortcut files that look for Outlook.exe. The reason for this is no doubt due to my adding the template files etc. from the Old pc after installing MS Office Pro 97 on the new pc. When first loading OE on the new pc, there may have been a question re Outlook that I might have answered the wrong way. Jack ======================== "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... Is MS Outlook also installed? Jack B wrote: Somehow I have messed up OE on the New pc. At first, it did not open an Address Book. Upon clicking on Address Book it would say, "Unable to open Address Book. The Address Book may not be installed properly." Secondly, I cannot send a response or a new message. It says, "There was an error opening this message. An error has occurred." Apparently I need to reinstall it, but I can't even find it via Control Panel/Add Remove Programs! Jack |
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For number 1 see www.oehelp.com/oedef.aspx
For number 3 see www.oehelp.com/ielnk.aspx steve "Jack B" wrote in message ... Steve, set up a new Identity and add your accounts there and see that it works Same problems with a new identity. 1) I keep getting "OE is not your default mail client" and I click the box/button to make the default, and it seems like it takes but it really doesen't. 2) Spell check fails to work. 3) Clicking email links on websites fails to work. 4) When I set up a new Identity, OE says it has found other to import messages and addreess book from, but only offers the one combined choice of Outlook, Windows Messaging, & something else, but, when I choose that, it says something like "can't use that MAPI source" (not exactly those words). So a new Identity has the same problems. Jack ============================= "Steve Cochran" wrote in message news The keys are in the registry, so you have to use regedit. The keys were backed up by OEQB in the backup directory, so you can manually merge them. But your original question that started this thread was about the Issues you were having on the new machine. I would go and just set up a new Identity and add your accounts there and see that it works and then you can use File | Import | Messages to import the messages from the old Identity or you can try importing from the backup of the old machine. I don't really know at this point what the problem after all the messages in this thread, so I got back to the original question. steve "Jack B" wrote in message ... Steve, delete the Identities, the IAM, the WAB keys in the registry. Is that a regedit operation or merely go to Documents and Settings\Jack\Local Settings\Applications Data\Identities and delete those Identities? merge them back from the older machine I can't visualize that. You mean copy the Identities from the Old pc and paste into the New pc at Documents and Settings\Jack\Local Settings\Applications Data\Identities? Jack ===================================== "Steve Cochran" wrote in message ... No, I meant on the new machine. If you clear the current registry settings by backing up what apparently is a mess right now, and then delete the current keys, then you can merge them back from the older machine. Then copy the dbx files to the location that is set under the "Store Root" value under the Identities key. (see www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx and http://www.insideoe.com/files/ for background. See if that helps. steve "Jack B" wrote in message ... Steve, Not sure what your start over point is. Do you mean go to Old pc and "...backing them up, delete the Identities, the IAM, the WAB keys in the registry. Etc"? Doing anything with Old pc is very problematic at this point. Also, are you saying use Windows Explore and go to Documents and Settings\Jack\Local Settings\Applications Data\Identities and delete those identies? But if New pc --- (1) How do you " Then merge the ones saved with OEQB"? What exactly does that mean? (2) Also, you say "Then copy the dbx files and wab file to the proper locations" -- since I don't understand (1), I'm not sure just where I'm copying from and where to. I assume you're saying copy them to the proper store location in the current working OE identity. Please help me see exactly what you're saying here. Thanks. Jack ================================ "Steve Cochran" wrote in message ... I would start over. After backing them up, delete the Identities, the IAM, the WAB keys in the registry. Then merge the ones saved with OEQB. Then copy the dbx files and wab file to the proper locations (make sure you clear their readonly attribute). Then see if things work. If needed, then you can replace the faulty wab file with the other one. steve "Jack B" wrote in message ... Since things with my OE aren't perfect at this point, do you see any downside to trying this: Paste "Jack.wab of 2.6 MB" into the backup file of OEFB (or the backup file of OEQB) thus replacing the "Jack.wab of 2.7 MB" and then doing a a OEFB (or OEQB) complete restore? Jack ========================= "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... "Jack B" wrote in message ... Bruce, What spell check were you using? Word 97, same as on previous pc, and Word is performing spell check for Word documents. However, this pc had Open Office already installed. I wonder if that's got something to do with it? Could be Open Office. It's relatively new. Worse case scenario, you could use a freeware spell check. I do. (Try the new identity first). Vampirefo Spell Check. Download it from Major Geeks: http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=2952 Or download it from SnapFile: http://www.snapfiles.com/get/spelloe.html Or you may like TinySpell. (Checks the spelling as you type). Download it he http://www.tinyspell.m6.net/ OE is part of your Windows OS and the only way to reinstall it is to reinstall the OS. What is the sense of MS doing that!? It's been that way from the old Microsoft Mail, (pre OE), right up through Vista. Win7 does not include a native e-mail client, (Antdeveryone bitches about that). Anyway, I see there are some who advise a trick for reinstalling: http://www.tweakxp.com/article37258.aspx http://www.softwaretipsandtricks.com...look-Express-6 What do yoiu think? Those are actually repairs, and they only wprked fpr SP1a and earlier, IIRC. Look at the date of the first link. 2002. Creating a new identity gives you all new dbx files and registry entries. Not much different than the old Repair & Reinstall, but a heck of a lot easier. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA Jack ================================ "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... instead of 300+ name address listings I have 900+ I don't know if that is expected behavior or not. In the seven years posting to OE, I have never run across this. Furthermore, none of the folders were imported, Neither your groups or folders should have imported. There is a workaround for that. Courtesy of Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express Create a "standalone" WAB file: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/files/wab.htm#wabexe Then open your default address book to the group desired and select all member of the group and copy them to the clipboard (Ctrl+A selects all, Ctrl+C copies them to the clipboard). Then open your "standalone" WAB file and paste the contacts into that file (you will have to hit the Enter key to OK each entry but it beats typing) and then either copy that wab file to a floppy disc or export it as CSV file. Otherwise, folders and groups neither import, nor export. At this point I just have Main identity. I could create Jack identity, eliminate Main and try again. Might as well. The Main identity is more prone to corruption due to some extra registry keys. I always set up a new named identity any time I reinstalled Windows and skipped the main identity right from the start. Also, OE is still not performing Spell Check, and it is not showing the images in received emails. Perhaps I should try to reinstall OE. OE is part of your Windows OS and the only way to reinstall it is to reinstall the OS. Make sure you're reading in HTML and "Block images........" is not checked in Tools | Options | Security. What spell check were you using? OE doesn't have its own and relies on Word or a third party app. Some good Address Book reading he http://www.insideoe.com/files/wab.htm -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA "Jack B" wrote in message ... Bruce, No, I hadn't done that, but now did it. That did pull in ALL the addesses but list them separately -- is that what is expected? That is, now instead of 300+ name address listings I have 900+ because every name with more than only one address is now listed separately (their name is listed for the default address and again for each other address that is not the default address). Naturally, this makes me guess which is really the current defualt address ( I can figure that out, of course, by opening Jack.wab of 2.6 and going thru each name). Furthermore, none of the folders were imported, so everybody is still lumped together. Interestingly, where there were some Groups, it seems the name is listed once with the current (default) address. But as you know, when sending emails, yoiu can't pull separate names out of a Group, only Folders. So, again, is this what's expected? At this point I just have Main identity. I could create Jack identity, eliminate Main and try again. Also, OE is still not performing Spell Check, and it is not showing the images in received emails. Perhaps I should try to reinstall OE. Jack ============================ "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... I don't know if you have done this yet, but copy the good Jack.wab of 2.6 MB to the Desktop. Open up OE and then open the Address Book. From there, File | Import | Address Book (wab) and point to where you saved it. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA "Jack B" wrote in message ... Well, as it turns out, the address book is not right -- it's missing the latest email addresses. I kept the old email addresses for people so I could do a search in the past if needed, and of course made the most current one the default. But my little trick "copied and pasted into \...Microsoft\Address Book\ and voila" produced an address book without the latest email addresses. That is weird, because when I double click on "Jack.wab of 2.6 MB on the external HD," the correct email addresses show up. Rats. Jack ===================================== "Jack B" wrote in message ... Steve, First, I just want to say that essentially all the data files (created documants, including images, etc.) have been transferred from the Old PC to the New PC. I did a major backup to an external HD at the end of March. Ok -- I did the search for *~* and that turned up a lot of files. I was surprised to see a number of such files in a Microsoft Feeds folder -- is that normal? Almost all such files are dated on the day I set up the New PC. Some of the others are sort of weird, i.e., billingtypes.php~ which is supposed to be in tools/modules/billing and that is the entire HD address given!? FYI, billingtypes.php~ is dated a month earlier. Anyway, the Jack.wab~ was only 176 kb, not even close to the Jack.wab of 2.7 MB. And it didn't work. Also, finding and clicking the the Jack.wab of 2.7 MB in the OEFB folder, it failed to open. Plus, I later (after doing OEFB) used OEQB on the Old PC and pasted the backup results into the New PC, and now finding and clicking the the Jack.wab of 2.7 MB in the OEQB Backup folder, it also failed to open. [Note: I have not attempted the OEQB Restore on the New PC.] BUT, I did find the Jack.wab of 2.6 MB on the external HD; and, upon clicking the the Jack.wab of 2.6 MB, it opened. So, I copied and pasted into \...Microsoft\Address Book\ and voila -- OE on the New PC now works (I can SEND and I have the address book)! Yeaay!! However, all 300+ addresses in the Address Book are not in their respective folders -- the're all lumped together into one folder . And, of course, at this point I don't have all my previous messages and identities and email accounts in OE. So, I'm thinking I can't lose anything by attempting an OEQB Restore on the New PC -- although I know the Jack.wab of 2.7 MB in the OEQB Backup file is no good, I could once again paste the Jack.wab of 2.6 MB into \...Microsoft\Address Book\ after doing the OEQB Restore on the New PC. What do you think? Also, FYI, the Spell Check is not working. I get "An error occurred while the spelling was being checked." Jack ================================== "Steve Cochran" wrote in message ... Try searching for *~* and if you find a file, then rename it to give it a wab file extension and then see if it will open. The ~ files are backups of the address book. steve "Jack B" wrote in message ... Thanks, but in OE, when I click to open Address Book, I get "The Address Book failed to load. Outlook Express is incorrectly configured. Please re-install." Nonetheless, I am able to find the JACKB.WAB file, and the Read Only attribute is not checked. BTW, can you actually reply to this newsgroup thru http://groups.google.com/group/micro...se_frm/thread? If so, I don't see how. Jack ============================= "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... Complate & complicated thread history suggesting you used the no-longer-supported OEFB backup from your old computer to migrate your OE data to your new computer: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...f6a5a24cacdfae Here's another possibility: 1. Open Address Book | click on Help | about: Write down the location displayed in the FILE box. 2. Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' via Start | Control Panel | Folder Options | View (cf. http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tuto...torial62.html). 3. Close OE. 4. In Windows Explorer, navigate to the location you wrote down in #1 above | right-click on the WAB file (e.g., JACKB.WAB) | select Properties | remove the Read Only attribute (if checked/enabled) & OK your way out. cf. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/269777 Jack B wrote: Robear -- If so, is there a DWORD named UseOutlook No, here is what is in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\WAB4: (Default) REG_SZ (Value not set) FirstRun REG_DWORD 0x00000001(1) OlkContactRefresh REG_DWORD 0x00000000(0) OlkFolderRefresh REG_DWORD 0x00000000(0) Jack ============================== "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... canned . Do you have this Registry key?... HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\WAB4 . If not, STOP; If so, is there a DWORD named UseOutlook (NB: no space) and is its value set to 1 (one)? . If not, STOP; If so, Address Book is configured to share contacts with Outlook, even if you don't use it (can happen with the install of Office). Change the value to 0 (zero), close REGEDIT & reboot: Address Book should be available to you and all should be well. (If that DWORD is not present, don't create it, and don't alter any other DWORD values.) Note that any changes (additions, deletions, edits) made while sharing was enabled will not be available (displayed) in Address Book when sharing is disabled. cf. http://www.insideoe.com/files/wab.htm#share and/or http://support.microsoft.com/kb/191946 /canned Jack B wrote: The only "Outlook" I find with Search is a folder "Outlook" at MSOffice97\Office\Templates\Outlook\ -- in that folder there are several .oft files and one .dir file, but there is no outlook.exe file on the pc. And, no other "Outlook" turns up in Search except two shortcut files that look for Outlook.exe. The reason for this is no doubt due to my adding the template files etc. from the Old pc after installing MS Office Pro 97 on the new pc. When first loading OE on the new pc, there may have been a question re Outlook that I might have answered the wrong way. Jack ======================== "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... Is MS Outlook also installed? Jack B wrote: Somehow I have messed up OE on the New pc. At first, it did not open an Address Book. Upon clicking on Address Book it would say, "Unable to open Address Book. The Address Book may not be installed properly." Secondly, I cannot send a response or a new message. It says, "There was an error opening this message. An error has occurred." Apparently I need to reinstall it, but I can't even find it via Control Panel/Add Remove Programs! Jack |
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I cannot believe what just happened this morning.
My ENTIRE address book with 13 folders and 6 groups is suddenly my address book!!!!! This happened with me changing anything the past several days with the exception of bringing in some "lost" emails from the Old pc. This is a miracle!?!?!?!!!!!! Jack |
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I cannot believe what just happened this morning.
My ENTIRE address book with 13 folders and 6 groups is suddenly my address book!!!!! This happened with me changing anything the past several days with the exception of bringing in some "lost" emails from the Old pc. This is a miracle!?!?!?!!!!!! Jack |
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Oops, should be "This happened with me NOT changing anything..."
Jack "Jack B" wrote in message ... I cannot believe what just happened this morning. My ENTIRE address book with 13 folders and 6 groups is suddenly my address book!!!!! This happened with me changing anything the past several days with the exception of bringing in some "lost" emails from the Old pc. This is a miracle!?!?!?!!!!!! Jack |
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Oops, should be "This happened with me NOT changing anything..." Jack "Jack B" wrote in message ... I cannot believe what just happened this morning. My ENTIRE address book with 13 folders and 6 groups is suddenly my address book!!!!! This happened with me changing anything the past several days with the exception of bringing in some "lost" emails from the Old pc. This is a miracle!?!?!?!!!!!! Jack |
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However, the miracle was not complete -- a number of the addresses are now
not up to date! How did this happen?!? Jack ==================================== "Jack B" wrote in message ... I cannot believe what just happened this morning. My ENTIRE address book with 13 folders and 6 groups is suddenly my address book!!!!! This happened with me NOT changing anything the past several days with the exception of bringing in some "lost" emails from the Old pc. This is a miracle!?!?!?!!!!!! Jack |
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No telling. Find the wab file and back it up while you can.
steve "Jack B" wrote in message ... However, the miracle was not complete -- a number of the addresses are now not up to date! How did this happen?!? Jack ==================================== "Jack B" wrote in message ... I cannot believe what just happened this morning. My ENTIRE address book with 13 folders and 6 groups is suddenly my address book!!!!! This happened with me NOT changing anything the past several days with the exception of bringing in some "lost" emails from the Old pc. This is a miracle!?!?!?!!!!!! Jack |
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[I still suspect you'd enabled Sharing with OL at some point in the past &
on the old computer.] Jack B wrote: However, the miracle was not complete -- a number of the addresses are now not up to date! How did this happen?!? Jack ==================================== "Jack B" wrote in message ... I cannot believe what just happened this morning. My ENTIRE address book with 13 folders and 6 groups is suddenly my address book!!!!! This happened with me NOT changing anything the past several days with the exception of bringing in some "lost" emails from the Old pc. This is a miracle!?!?!?!!!!!! Jack |
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