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March 1st 06, 09:51 PM
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can I use FOSS versions of calendar tools when others in my offic.
I use a FOSS calendaring system, while the rest of my office uses Outlook.
Can I publish my .iCal file to our exchange server? 
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March 1st 06, 10:50 PM
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can I use FOSS versions of calendar tools when others in my offic.
I don't know what FOSS is, but Exchange doesn't have any iCal publishing features.
FWIW, the next version of Outlook will have substantial iCalendar subscription and sharing support. -- Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003 http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx "Amadomon" wrote in message ... I use a FOSS calendaring system, while the rest of my office uses Outlook. Can I publish my .iCal file to our exchange server?
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March 2nd 06, 02:36 AM
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can I use FOSS versions of calendar tools when others in my offic.
FOSS = Free Open Source Software.
-- Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without reading. After furious head scratching, Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] asked: | I don't know what FOSS is, but Exchange doesn't have any iCal | publishing features. | | FWIW, the next version of Outlook will have substantial iCalendar | subscription and sharing support. | | | "Amadomon" wrote in message | ... || I use a FOSS calendaring system, while the rest of my office uses || Outlook. Can I publish my .iCal file to our exchange server?
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March 2nd 06, 12:49 PM
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can I use FOSS versions of calendar tools when others in my of
Silly Microsoft--does not play well with others. I am glad someone knows
what FOSS means. It's a great big wonderful world out there, Outlook 'MVP'ers... "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote: FOSS = Free Open Source Software. --Â Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without reading. After furious head scratching, Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] asked: | I don't know what FOSS is, but Exchange doesn't have any iCal | publishing features. | | FWIW, the next version of Outlook will have substantial iCalendar | subscription and sharing support. | | | "Amadomon" wrote in message | ... || I use a FOSS calendaring system, while the rest of my office uses || Outlook. Can I publish my .iCal file to our exchange server?
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March 2nd 06, 01:04 PM
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can I use FOSS versions of calendar tools when others in my of
I hate acronyms. It's one reason I couldn't stand to work for a government agency. g
-- Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003 http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote: FOSS = Free Open Source Software.
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March 3rd 06, 03:21 AM
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can I use FOSS versions of calendar tools when others in my of
Yes, I know what F/OSS means, and having tried much of it, I can safely say
it is crap. -- Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without reading. After furious head scratching, Amadomon asked: | Silly Microsoft--does not play well with others. I am glad someone | knows what FOSS means. It's a great big wonderful world out there, | Outlook 'MVP'ers... | | "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote: | || FOSS = Free Open Source Software. || || --Â || Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] || || Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All || unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without || reading. || || After furious head scratching, Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] asked: || ||| I don't know what FOSS is, but Exchange doesn't have any iCal ||| publishing features. ||| ||| FWIW, the next version of Outlook will have substantial iCalendar ||| subscription and sharing support. ||| ||| ||| "Amadomon" wrote in message ||| ... |||| I use a FOSS calendaring system, while the rest of my office uses |||| Outlook. Can I publish my .iCal file to our exchange server?
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March 3rd 06, 01:05 PM
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can I use FOSS versions of calendar tools when others in my of
No real need to respond to this. I too came from a proprietary s/w world,
and am not doctrinaire, but I have gradually been migrating toward FOSS because frequently it is a better product. (Try getting a copy of Win XP localized into Bambara.) Of course there is crap out there, but remember Windows ME? No matter what you think, just stick around; the trend is not in Microsoft's favor. Increasingly, the FOSS tail is wagging the MS dog. "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote: Yes, I know what F/OSS means, and having tried much of it, I can safely say it is crap. -- Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without reading. After furious head scratching, Amadomon asked: | Silly Microsoft--does not play well with others. I am glad someone | knows what FOSS means. It's a great big wonderful world out there, | Outlook 'MVP'ers... | | "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote: | || FOSS = Free Open Source Software. || || -- || Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] || || Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All || unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without || reading. || || After furious head scratching, Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] asked: || ||| I don't know what FOSS is, but Exchange doesn't have any iCal ||| publishing features. ||| ||| FWIW, the next version of Outlook will have substantial iCalendar ||| subscription and sharing support. ||| ||| ||| "Amadomon" wrote in message ||| ... |||| I use a FOSS calendaring system, while the rest of my office uses |||| Outlook. Can I publish my .iCal file to our exchange server?
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March 3rd 06, 03:29 PM
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can I use FOSS versions of calendar tools when others in my of
Dream on - have it your way - after all, that is what F/OSS is all about -
having choices from second rate software, which is always trying to emulate Microsoft's successful model. HAve a good day. -- Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without reading. After furious head scratching, Amadomon asked: | No real need to respond to this. I too came from a proprietary s/w | world, and am not doctrinaire, but I have gradually been migrating | toward FOSS because frequently it is a better product. (Try getting | a copy of Win XP localized into Bambara.) Of course there is crap | out there, but remember Windows ME? No matter what you think, just | stick around; the trend is not in Microsoft's favor. Increasingly, | the FOSS tail is wagging the MS dog. | | "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote: | || Yes, I know what F/OSS means, and having tried much of it, I can || safely say it is crap. || || -- || Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] || || Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All || unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without || reading. || || After furious head scratching, Amadomon asked: || ||| Silly Microsoft--does not play well with others. I am glad someone ||| knows what FOSS means. It's a great big wonderful world out there, ||| Outlook 'MVP'ers... ||| ||| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote: ||| |||| FOSS = Free Open Source Software. |||| |||| -- |||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] |||| |||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All |||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted |||| without reading. |||| |||| After furious head scratching, Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] asked: |||| ||||| I don't know what FOSS is, but Exchange doesn't have any iCal ||||| publishing features. ||||| ||||| FWIW, the next version of Outlook will have substantial iCalendar ||||| subscription and sharing support. ||||| ||||| ||||| "Amadomon" wrote in message ||||| ... |||||| I use a FOSS calendaring system, while the rest of my office uses |||||| Outlook. Can I publish my .iCal file to our exchange server?
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March 3rd 06, 08:52 PM
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can I use FOSS versions of calendar tools when others in my of
You don't even know what software I am talking about, so how can you call it
second-rate? I have conceded that there is plenty of "crap" (as you characterized it) out there, and I have also used qualifiers such as "frequently" and said that *I* am not doctrinaire. I find this discussion rather ironic, because I am usually on the other side of this argument (albeit employing a nicer, less "scorched-earth" approach) with my hard-core FOSS friends. But yes, that *is* what it is all about: customization--the right tool for the job at hand. Have you ever tried to outfit 400 computers for schools in sub-Saharan Africa? Can you imagine the licence expense, to say nothing of the localisation costs? Add to that the hardware--and power--needed to run bloated operating systems, when low-cost, lean, customized OS's and apps exist (yes, with active local support) that can run on flash memory, and your idea of "crap" and "second-rate" might change. It truly is a Flat World, my friend. Companies like Microsoft, and the US in general, ignore this at their peril. No one is trying to emulate Microsoft; they're just applying the principle of Occam's Razor. I run my OS, my email client, and my calendar app (among other apps) on a USB key; wherever I go, regardless of native OS, I simply plug in my key and--boom--there is "my" computer. Afterwards, I simply unplug my key and off I go, leaving nothing behind. Try that with Outlook. "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote: Dream on - have it your way - after all, that is what F/OSS is all about - having choices from second rate software, which is always trying to emulate Microsoft's successful model. HAve a good day. -- Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without reading. After furious head scratching, Amadomon asked: | No real need to respond to this. I too came from a proprietary s/w | world, and am not doctrinaire, but I have gradually been migrating | toward FOSS because frequently it is a better product. (Try getting | a copy of Win XP localized into Bambara.) Of course there is crap | out there, but remember Windows ME? No matter what you think, just | stick around; the trend is not in Microsoft's favor. Increasingly, | the FOSS tail is wagging the MS dog. | | "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote: | || Yes, I know what F/OSS means, and having tried much of it, I can || safely say it is crap. || || -- || Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] || || Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All || unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without || reading. || || After furious head scratching, Amadomon asked: || ||| Silly Microsoft--does not play well with others. I am glad someone ||| knows what FOSS means. It's a great big wonderful world out there, ||| Outlook 'MVP'ers... ||| ||| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote: ||| |||| FOSS = Free Open Source Software. |||| |||| -- |||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] |||| |||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All |||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted |||| without reading. |||| |||| After furious head scratching, Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] asked: |||| ||||| I don't know what FOSS is, but Exchange doesn't have any iCal ||||| publishing features. ||||| ||||| FWIW, the next version of Outlook will have substantial iCalendar ||||| subscription and sharing support. ||||| ||||| ||||| "Amadomon" wrote in message ||||| ... |||||| I use a FOSS calendaring system, while the rest of my office uses |||||| Outlook. Can I publish my .iCal file to our exchange server?
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March 4th 06, 03:06 AM
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I might add, after looking at other Outlook-related discussion threads, that
I don't see much evidence to indicate that the MS product is in any way superior. ("Outlook crashes when new appointment is saved in Outlook Calendaring") After listening to you, I would expect that the brilliant minds at Microsoft could do better than that. Finally (to return to the original topic of this thread), I believe that either the current or else the next version of Outlook will support the (open) iCalendar format. Who's emulating whom? "Amadomon" wrote: You don't even know what software I am talking about, so how can you call it second-rate? I have conceded that there is plenty of "crap" (as you characterized it) out there, and I have also used qualifiers such as "frequently" and said that *I* am not doctrinaire. I find this discussion rather ironic, because I am usually on the other side of this argument (albeit employing a nicer, less "scorched-earth" approach) with my hard-core FOSS friends. But yes, that *is* what it is all about: customization--the right tool for the job at hand. Have you ever tried to outfit 400 computers for schools in sub-Saharan Africa? Can you imagine the licence expense, to say nothing of the localisation costs? Add to that the hardware--and power--needed to run bloated operating systems, when low-cost, lean, customized OS's and apps exist (yes, with active local support) that can run on flash memory, and your idea of "crap" and "second-rate" might change. It truly is a Flat World, my friend. Companies like Microsoft, and the US in general, ignore this at their peril. No one is trying to emulate Microsoft; they're just applying the principle of Occam's Razor. I run my OS, my email client, and my calendar app (among other apps) on a USB key; wherever I go, regardless of native OS, I simply plug in my key and--boom--there is "my" computer. Afterwards, I simply unplug my key and off I go, leaving nothing behind. Try that with Outlook. "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote: Dream on - have it your way - after all, that is what F/OSS is all about - having choices from second rate software, which is always trying to emulate Microsoft's successful model. HAve a good day. -- Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without reading. After furious head scratching, Amadomon asked: | No real need to respond to this. I too came from a proprietary s/w | world, and am not doctrinaire, but I have gradually been migrating | toward FOSS because frequently it is a better product. (Try getting | a copy of Win XP localized into Bambara.) Of course there is crap | out there, but remember Windows ME? No matter what you think, just | stick around; the trend is not in Microsoft's favor. Increasingly, | the FOSS tail is wagging the MS dog. | | "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote: | || Yes, I know what F/OSS means, and having tried much of it, I can || safely say it is crap. || || -- || Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] || || Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All || unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without || reading. || || After furious head scratching, Amadomon asked: || ||| Silly Microsoft--does not play well with others. I am glad someone ||| knows what FOSS means. It's a great big wonderful world out there, ||| Outlook 'MVP'ers... ||| ||| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote: ||| |||| FOSS = Free Open Source Software. |||| |||| -- |||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] |||| |||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All |||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted |||| without reading. |||| |||| After furious head scratching, Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] asked: |||| ||||| I don't know what FOSS is, but Exchange doesn't have any iCal ||||| publishing features. ||||| ||||| FWIW, the next version of Outlook will have substantial iCalendar ||||| subscription and sharing support. ||||| ||||| ||||| "Amadomon" wrote in message ||||| ... |||||| I use a FOSS calendaring system, while the rest of my office uses |||||| Outlook. Can I publish my .iCal file to our exchange server?
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