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Old October 5th 06, 09:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
kartabella
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Default repeated meeting changed after some meetings were deleted.

Please help!
1. In my Outlook 2003 I had programmed a repeated meeting - daily at 9.00 -
1 hour long - no final date.
2. 1 week later (as 7 meetings already took place) I had manually DELETED
THREE future meetings (meetings number 9, 10 and 11).
3. 20 meetings after the first programming step I decided to define the final
date of the meetings' series (changing the "no final date defined" option to
"stop after 30 occasions").
4. Outlook accepted the change, but also RESURRECTED THOSE 3 meetings, which
were deleted.

What can I do to prevent Outlook 2003 from resurrecting those manually
deleted meetings?
Thank you.

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Old October 6th 06, 03:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
Brian Tillman
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Default repeated meeting changed after some meetings were deleted.

kartabella wrote:

1. In my Outlook 2003 I had programmed a repeated meeting - daily at
9.00 - 1 hour long - no final date.
2. 1 week later (as 7 meetings already took place) I had manually
DELETED THREE future meetings (meetings number 9, 10 and 11).
3. 20 meetings after the first programming step I decided to define
the final date of the meetings' series (changing the "no final date
defined" option to "stop after 30 occasions").
4. Outlook accepted the change, but also RESURRECTED THOSE 3
meetings, which were deleted.

What can I do to prevent Outlook 2003 from resurrecting those manually
deleted meetings?


Since recurring events are single entries in the calendar, with events
subsequent to the original being calculated and not actually stored. When
you modify a particular occurrence, you are storing an exception in the
event record that Outlook uses to suppress or alter that particular
occurrence. You're not actually removing an item from the calendar, since
there is only one item for the entire series. By changing the end date
you're modifying the series and Outlook regenerates all occurrences,
eliminating any of the exceptions in the record. You cannot prevent it.
--
Brian Tillman

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Old January 12th 07, 05:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
Sue Stubbs
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Default repeated meeting changed after some meetings were deleted.



"Brian Tillman" wrote:

kartabella wrote:

1. In my Outlook 2003 I had programmed a repeated meeting - daily at
9.00 - 1 hour long - no final date.
2. 1 week later (as 7 meetings already took place) I had manually
DELETED THREE future meetings (meetings number 9, 10 and 11).
3. 20 meetings after the first programming step I decided to define
the final date of the meetings' series (changing the "no final date
defined" option to "stop after 30 occasions").
4. Outlook accepted the change, but also RESURRECTED THOSE 3
meetings, which were deleted.

What can I do to prevent Outlook 2003 from resurrecting those manually
deleted meetings?


Since recurring events are single entries in the calendar, with events
subsequent to the original being calculated and not actually stored. When
you modify a particular occurrence, you are storing an exception in the
event record that Outlook uses to suppress or alter that particular
occurrence. You're not actually removing an item from the calendar, since
there is only one item for the entire series. By changing the end date
you're modifying the series and Outlook regenerates all occurrences,
eliminating any of the exceptions in the record. You cannot prevent it.
--
Brian Tillman


I believe that this is a serious flaw in Outlook's Calendar. It's outrageous
that one cannot change a recurring event just going forward, while leaving
the history intact. An early version of Palm's calendar which I used years
ago was more sophisticated than this! Every time you modified a recurring
event, a screen popped up asking whether you wanted to change all
occurrences, all future occurrences, or just one occurrence.

Don't the Microsoft people understand that the vast majority of times that
one would change the time or place of a recurring event, that one would be
making that change for the future, not the past? The past is past, and should
not be allowed to be touched or modified without extensive bells and whistles
going off to warn the user of that! It can be a rather dissastrous thing to
lose records of a recurring meeting or event just because the user needs to
change the time or place of that event for the future (e.g. whether a meeting
got cancelled or changed on specific dates in the past can be
mission-critical information in some businesses, for example lawyers,
accountants and others that have to account for billable time).

I noticed this problem long ago, and have figured out an elaborate and
really difficult workaround for making sure I don't lose important data about
past meetings. It involves paper and pen--before modifying recurring events,
I go back in my calendar (sometimes as far back as a year), and write down
all of the dates when the meeting got cancelled, then I modify the end date
of the existing event to happen at the current date, then I re-enter the same
recurring event again (with the new time or place), then I go back through my
calendar and delete the occurrences that had gotten cancelled.

It's hard to believe that Microsoft isn't smart enough to figure out how to
make this easier for users!


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Old August 6th 07, 11:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
nkb
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Default repeated meeting changed after some meetings were deleted.

I have been searching for a solution to his myself for quite some time. I'm
disappointed to see that when I change the time of a meeting to 8:30 a.m.
from 9:30 a.m. GOING FORWARD ONLY... that all the previous meetings will
change, too. Even though the previous meetings occurred at 9:30 a.m.


"kartabella" wrote:

Please help!
1. In my Outlook 2003 I had programmed a repeated meeting - daily at 9.00 -
1 hour long - no final date.
2. 1 week later (as 7 meetings already took place) I had manually DELETED
THREE future meetings (meetings number 9, 10 and 11).
3. 20 meetings after the first programming step I decided to define the final
date of the meetings' series (changing the "no final date defined" option to
"stop after 30 occasions").
4. Outlook accepted the change, but also RESURRECTED THOSE 3 meetings, which
were deleted.

What can I do to prevent Outlook 2003 from resurrecting those manually
deleted meetings?
Thank you.

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Old August 7th 07, 12:12 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
nkb
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Default repeated meeting changed after some meetings were deleted.

I think I may have found a solution. I pulled up the recurring meeting and
changed the "end date" to this week. I then "sent update." I set up a new
meeting beginning next week with the new time. It looks like the old
meetings are still there w/ the original time and the new invite beginning
next week w/ the new time.

Does this sound like it will work for any of you?


"nkb" wrote:

I have been searching for a solution to his myself for quite some time. I'm
disappointed to see that when I change the time of a meeting to 8:30 a.m.
from 9:30 a.m. GOING FORWARD ONLY... that all the previous meetings will
change, too. Even though the previous meetings occurred at 9:30 a.m.


"kartabella" wrote:

Please help!
1. In my Outlook 2003 I had programmed a repeated meeting - daily at 9.00 -
1 hour long - no final date.
2. 1 week later (as 7 meetings already took place) I had manually DELETED
THREE future meetings (meetings number 9, 10 and 11).
3. 20 meetings after the first programming step I decided to define the final
date of the meetings' series (changing the "no final date defined" option to
"stop after 30 occasions").
4. Outlook accepted the change, but also RESURRECTED THOSE 3 meetings, which
were deleted.

What can I do to prevent Outlook 2003 from resurrecting those manually
deleted meetings?
Thank you.

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Old August 7th 07, 02:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
Brian Tillman
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Default repeated meeting changed after some meetings were deleted.

nkb wrote:

I think I may have found a solution. I pulled up the recurring
meeting and changed the "end date" to this week. I then "sent
update." I set up a new meeting beginning next week with the new
time. It looks like the old meetings are still there w/ the original
time and the new invite beginning next week w/ the new time.

Does this sound like it will work for any of you?


As you discovered, recurring entries are single entries, not multiple ones,
and changing a recurring entry in such a way that Outlook will regenerate it
will change both the past and future display (since it's really only one
item). I think you've found the best solution.
--
Brian Tillman

 




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