"Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
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"Rojo Habe" wrote in message
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Yeah, they've "enhanced" the POP interface, too, which means you have to
put the word "recent:" in front of your username and then it'll download
the last thirty days worth (the first time you do it) onto each client.
The messages stay on the server regardless of whether or not you
configure your client to delete them.

This is really not in conformance with POP standards and it's not how
gmail POP works for me. There should be an option in the POP setup that
allows you to have the server work in a more standard fashion. I know I
don't have to add "recent". Log into gmail via a web browser, click
Settings, then "Forward and POP/IMAP". You should be able to click a
radio button labeled "Enable POP for all mail (even mail that's already
been downloaded)" and it will allow you to download all mail in the Inbox.
You should also make sure the "When messages are accessed via POP"
drop-down says "keep Gmail's copy in the Inbox".

The upshot is that all manner of weird things happen, depending on the
client, from messages disappearing without trace once they've been read
to items refusing to be deleted no matter what, or even more inconsistent
weirdness. That's why I decided to give IMAP a try (although for an IMAP
first-timer this is proving to be even weirder). Plus, as you said, you
don't have access to your Sent Items wherever you go, although in the
past I've gotten around that by BCCing myself and manually copying it to
the Sent folder once it comes in. I was just looking for a more elegant
solution.

As long as you use the Outlook client interface itself to send the
messages, the Sent Items folder will work correctly. As soon as you use
the programming interface, the Sent Items don't get migrated. I'd create
a rule that moves all messages to the server-side Sent Items folder and
manually run it on the Sent Items folder periodically.
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Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

Hi,

I've been following this because I just spent three days and nights trying
to get Outlook (2002SP3) to download recent mail from my 'ntl migrated to
virgin migrated to google' mailbox. On 23 May send/receive just went into
mad mode downloading ~450 old messages at a time (taking half an hour each
time), and sending phantom mail that wasn't in the outbox. After round the
clock downloading and deleting of duplicates, it suddenly started working
again this afternoon. My question about this on their online 'help forum'
was not answered.

Which still leaves me the problem of the 'sent items'. From looking at
other threads on the forum it appears that the 'sent items' folder at google
is not really a folder but a filter from which items are deleted after 90
days. Something which fills me with alarm for our record keeping! So, even
here, among the experts, it seems the view is that one has to copy
everything to oneself and then filter it to get a proper sent and receive
record, in a proper folder!

Oops, but I'm forgetting, Outlook's 'sent items' isn't really a folder
either: the only real one being Outlook.pst! Come back Outlook Express, all
is forgiven!

Good luck: and make sure you back up that old ntuser.dat, and your psts, or
one day it's all all gone...

S