I assumed you you know that regional and language options is a control panel
module. In XP the bottom of the first tab (regional options) is the location
box. I set it to Canada. Since you can't reproduce the problem I expect I
just have some kind of registry corruption and I'll leave it at that. For the
little inconvenience it might cause me I don't think it's worth spending any
debugging time on it.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Can't repro your problem. I don't see where you answered my question.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
Well, it shouldn't be a big deal for Outlook's address block to parse
address
information. I've got no problem "forcing" Outlook to do it. I rather
think
of "doing it myself" as the instead part, as in instead of letting Outlook
do
it for me. Anyway I'm pretty sure I understand how to make sure Outlook
gets
it right now.

I expected Outlook to use the OS setting since I couldn't find any option
in
Outlook (but I could be wrong) so that's where I looked to make sure I had
it
set to Canada as I mentioned, in the regional and language options as my
location.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

It has never been a good idea to paste address information into a derived
field like the address block. When you do so, you force Outlook to parse
the
data instead of doing it yourself. Outlook may or may not get it right.
You
will.

Outlook relies on your operating system settings to set your default
country. State how you set that.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
news Hello Russ.
I’m not sure I can follow the �There are no rules� idea. This idea
“Outlook
cannot parse address information by itself when…� seems to be a rule,
one
of
those rules I’m trying to understand.
Anyway clearly Outlook is consistent in how it formats an address. It
has
never simply put all of the information in the first field. To me,
there
is
some “logic� that is being done to determine which info goes in which
field
so I continued testing.
I took that same address from that same website and copied it to a text
document first so now all that was left was plain text. I copied it
from
there and still the exact same placement of text within the address
fields...
Anyway after lots of testing, I noticed that I could copy/paste that
address
directly from the website to the address in the contact if I added the
country to it after (well, specifically a CR and then the country).
That
address only worked when the country was Canada, not United States of
America, so I guess the logic for zip codes (being all numbers in the
US
instead of letter/number/letter/space/number/letter/number in Canada
made
the
difference.
I made a new clip in case my babbling on is confusing to anyone. This
one
is
a bit smaller.
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr2.avi

I noticed a few other things with the formatting behavior;
If there are no CRs (address all on one line) the address starts in the
city
field.
If there are multiple CRs, all except what comes after the last one
will
be
in the street address field.
I guess I answered my own questions about the formatting but I hope
that
helps anyone else. I guess it’s less of a problem in the US since the
default
country is the US.
My last question is does anyone know how to make Canada the default
country
(for a new Outlook contact)?


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

What do you mean by "rules for parsing?" There are no rules. Place the
individual address elements into their respective fields. Outlook
cannot
parse address information by itself when you place HTML code into a
derived
field.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
OK that's fine but does anyone know the rules for parsing or where I
could
look them up? That was really my (perhaps mistated) question if you
refer
to
the last sentence of my original post.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

So you're copying and pasting from a Web page into a derived field?
That
will have mixed results at best depending on the HTML code.
As I said, I'd parse the address elements yourself.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
Hello Russ,

I guess that didn't mean much by itself, but I thought it would
be
understood with the rest of the info and the actual question. I
guess
the
best way to explain is with a short video clip. It's about 3.6
MBs
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr.avi



"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide clearer information, please. "Just copy an address
directly
into
a
Contact" tells us nothing. That could mean anything. Parse the
address
elements yourself.
Clarify how you set your location and in what operating system.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in
message
...
I don't seem to be able to get the different parts of the
address
to
go
into
the intended fields if I just copy an address, say from a
411.com
listing
directly into a contact. The information looks right but if I
click
on
the
address button to open the check address dialog most of the
info
are
in
the
wrong fields.

Also I have my location in regional and laguage options set to
Canada
but
always end up with the county/region as US. Does anyone know
the
rules
(commas / spaces or whatever) to match the data to the right
fields
and
how
to set the country?

You assumed too much. You hadn't even specified your OS, so I could I have
been sure you had made your settings correctly? You should also check to be
sure you have your default dialing location set correctly because Outlook
will often use that to determine your location.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
news
I assumed you you know that regional and language options is a control
panel
module. In XP the bottom of the first tab (regional options) is the
location
box. I set it to Canada. Since you can't reproduce the problem I expect I
just have some kind of registry corruption and I'll leave it at that. For
the
little inconvenience it might cause me I don't think it's worth spending
any
debugging time on it.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Can't repro your problem. I don't see where you answered my question.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
Well, it shouldn't be a big deal for Outlook's address block to parse
address
information. I've got no problem "forcing" Outlook to do it. I rather
think
of "doing it myself" as the instead part, as in instead of letting
Outlook
do
it for me. Anyway I'm pretty sure I understand how to make sure Outlook
gets
it right now.

I expected Outlook to use the OS setting since I couldn't find any
option
in
Outlook (but I could be wrong) so that's where I looked to make sure I
had
it
set to Canada as I mentioned, in the regional and language options as
my
location.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

It has never been a good idea to paste address information into a
derived
field like the address block. When you do so, you force Outlook to
parse
the
data instead of doing it yourself. Outlook may or may not get it
right.
You
will.

Outlook relies on your operating system settings to set your default
country. State how you set that.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
news Hello Russ.
I’m not sure I can follow the �There are no rules� idea. This idea
“Outlook
cannot parse address information by itself when…� seems to be a
rule,
one
of
those rules I’m trying to understand.
Anyway clearly Outlook is consistent in how it formats an address.
It
has
never simply put all of the information in the first field. To me,
there
is
some “logic� that is being done to determine which info goes in
which
field
so I continued testing.
I took that same address from that same website and copied it to a
text
document first so now all that was left was plain text. I copied it
from
there and still the exact same placement of text within the address
fields...
Anyway after lots of testing, I noticed that I could copy/paste that
address
directly from the website to the address in the contact if I added
the
country to it after (well, specifically a CR and then the country).
That
address only worked when the country was Canada, not United States
of
America, so I guess the logic for zip codes (being all numbers in
the
US
instead of letter/number/letter/space/number/letter/number in Canada
made
the
difference.
I made a new clip in case my babbling on is confusing to anyone.
This
one
is
a bit smaller.
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr2.avi

I noticed a few other things with the formatting behavior;
If there are no CRs (address all on one line) the address starts in
the
city
field.
If there are multiple CRs, all except what comes after the last one
will
be
in the street address field.
I guess I answered my own questions about the formatting but I hope
that
helps anyone else. I guess it’s less of a problem in the US since
the
default
country is the US.
My last question is does anyone know how to make Canada the default
country
(for a new Outlook contact)?


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

What do you mean by "rules for parsing?" There are no rules. Place
the
individual address elements into their respective fields. Outlook
cannot
parse address information by itself when you place HTML code into a
derived
field.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
OK that's fine but does anyone know the rules for parsing or
where I
could
look them up? That was really my (perhaps mistated) question if
you
refer
to
the last sentence of my original post.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

So you're copying and pasting from a Web page into a derived
field?
That
will have mixed results at best depending on the HTML code.
As I said, I'd parse the address elements yourself.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in
message
...
Hello Russ,

I guess that didn't mean much by itself, but I thought it
would
be
understood with the rest of the info and the actual question.
I
guess
the
best way to explain is with a short video clip. It's about 3.6
MBs
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr.avi



"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide clearer information, please. "Just copy an address
directly
into
a
Contact" tells us nothing. That could mean anything. Parse
the
address
elements yourself.
Clarify how you set your location and in what operating
system.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in
message
...
I don't seem to be able to get the different parts of the
address
to
go
into
the intended fields if I just copy an address, say from a
411.com
listing
directly into a contact. The information looks right but if
I
click
on
the
address button to open the check address dialog most of the
info
are
in
the
wrong fields.

Also I have my location in regional and laguage options set
to
Canada
but
always end up with the county/region as US. Does anyone
know
the
rules
(commas / spaces or whatever) to match the data to the
right
fields
and
how
to set the country?

Hi Russ,

Sorry, I figured that because Office 2007 OS compatibility starts with XP
SP2 and that the videos I made would have looked different on Vista, and with
some other anecdotal information such as I called the settings regional and
language options, people who could help would instinctively know I was using
XP.

I wish you wouldn’t have said hadn’t “even� specified though because to me
that indicates a level of frustration. I apologize for any I caused, I
appreciate your helpful help and timely answers. I also checked my phone and
modem options and the country/region for my location was already Canada as
well. Thanks for the suggestion.

I decided to try uniblue registrybooster which corrected many (registry)
errors and now when I click that address block button instead of the country
already being filled in with United States of America the country field is
blank. I took that as an improvement (as a technical matter, no offence to
any US citizen) and tried that same Canadian address again from that webpage
and it worked! All the info was placed in the right fields and it filled in
Canada as the country


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

You assumed too much. You hadn't even specified your OS, so I could I have
been sure you had made your settings correctly? You should also check to be
sure you have your default dialing location set correctly because Outlook
will often use that to determine your location.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
news
I assumed you you know that regional and language options is a control
panel
module. In XP the bottom of the first tab (regional options) is the
location
box. I set it to Canada. Since you can't reproduce the problem I expect I
just have some kind of registry corruption and I'll leave it at that. For
the
little inconvenience it might cause me I don't think it's worth spending
any
debugging time on it.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Can't repro your problem. I don't see where you answered my question.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
Well, it shouldn't be a big deal for Outlook's address block to parse
address
information. I've got no problem "forcing" Outlook to do it. I rather
think
of "doing it myself" as the instead part, as in instead of letting
Outlook
do
it for me. Anyway I'm pretty sure I understand how to make sure Outlook
gets
it right now.

I expected Outlook to use the OS setting since I couldn't find any
option
in
Outlook (but I could be wrong) so that's where I looked to make sure I
had
it
set to Canada as I mentioned, in the regional and language options as
my
location.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

It has never been a good idea to paste address information into a
derived
field like the address block. When you do so, you force Outlook to
parse
the
data instead of doing it yourself. Outlook may or may not get it
right.
You
will.

Outlook relies on your operating system settings to set your default
country. State how you set that.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
news Hello Russ.
I’m not sure I can follow the �There are no rules� idea. This idea
“Outlook
cannot parse address information by itself when…� seems to be a
rule,
one
of
those rules I’m trying to understand.
Anyway clearly Outlook is consistent in how it formats an address.
It
has
never simply put all of the information in the first field. To me,
there
is
some “logic� that is being done to determine which info goes in
which
field
so I continued testing.
I took that same address from that same website and copied it to a
text
document first so now all that was left was plain text. I copied it
from
there and still the exact same placement of text within the address
fields...
Anyway after lots of testing, I noticed that I could copy/paste that
address
directly from the website to the address in the contact if I added
the
country to it after (well, specifically a CR and then the country).
That
address only worked when the country was Canada, not United States
of
America, so I guess the logic for zip codes (being all numbers in
the
US
instead of letter/number/letter/space/number/letter/number in Canada
made
the
difference.
I made a new clip in case my babbling on is confusing to anyone.
This
one
is
a bit smaller.
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr2.avi

I noticed a few other things with the formatting behavior;
If there are no CRs (address all on one line) the address starts in
the
city
field.
If there are multiple CRs, all except what comes after the last one
will
be
in the street address field.
I guess I answered my own questions about the formatting but I hope
that
helps anyone else. I guess it’s less of a problem in the US since
the
default
country is the US.
My last question is does anyone know how to make Canada the default
country
(for a new Outlook contact)?


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

What do you mean by "rules for parsing?" There are no rules. Place
the
individual address elements into their respective fields. Outlook
cannot
parse address information by itself when you place HTML code into a
derived
field.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
OK that's fine but does anyone know the rules for parsing or
where I
could
look them up? That was really my (perhaps mistated) question if
you
refer
to
the last sentence of my original post.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

So you're copying and pasting from a Web page into a derived
field?
That
will have mixed results at best depending on the HTML code.
As I said, I'd parse the address elements yourself.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in
message
...
Hello Russ,

I guess that didn't mean much by itself, but I thought it
would
be
understood with the rest of the info and the actual question.
I
guess
the
best way to explain is with a short video clip. It's about 3.6
MBs
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr.avi



"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide clearer information, please. "Just copy an address
directly
into
a
Contact" tells us nothing. That could mean anything. Parse
the
address
elements yourself.
Clarify how you set your location and in what operating
system.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in
message
...
I don't seem to be able to get the different parts of the
address
to
go
into
the intended fields if I just copy an address, say from a
411.com
listing
directly into a contact. The information looks right but if
I
click
on
the
address button to open the check address dialog most of the
info
are
in
the
wrong fields.

Also I have my location in regional and laguage options set
to
Canada
but
always end up with the county/region as US. Does anyone
know
the
rules
(commas / spaces or whatever) to match the data to the
right
fields
and
how
to set the country?

Cool. I wonder how "registrybooster" knew what to fix? I've never been brave
enough to try utilities like that. I wonder how your location setting became
corrupt in the first place. That's what I suspected which is why I wanted
the details on how you had set it in the first place.
I've not seen this reported before, but it's a good one to add to the list,
especially if you can think of any of the steps to repro the problem in the
fist place.
BTW, the default behavior for inserting an address from Outlook in Word
should be to omit the country unless it is different from the local setting.
So it sounds like it is now behaving as expected since you fixed your
registry setting.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
Hi Russ,

Sorry, I figured that because Office 2007 OS compatibility starts with XP
SP2 and that the videos I made would have looked different on Vista, and
with
some other anecdotal information such as I called the settings regional
and
language options, people who could help would instinctively know I was
using
XP.

I wish you wouldn’t have said hadn’t “even� specified though because to me
that indicates a level of frustration. I apologize for any I caused, I
appreciate your helpful help and timely answers. I also checked my phone
and
modem options and the country/region for my location was already Canada as
well. Thanks for the suggestion.

I decided to try uniblue registrybooster which corrected many (registry)
errors and now when I click that address block button instead of the
country
already being filled in with United States of America the country field is
blank. I took that as an improvement (as a technical matter, no offence to
any US citizen) and tried that same Canadian address again from that
webpage
and it worked! All the info was placed in the right fields and it filled
in
Canada as the country


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

You assumed too much. You hadn't even specified your OS, so I could I
have
been sure you had made your settings correctly? You should also check to
be
sure you have your default dialing location set correctly because Outlook
will often use that to determine your location.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
news
I assumed you you know that regional and language options is a control
panel
module. In XP the bottom of the first tab (regional options) is the
location
box. I set it to Canada. Since you can't reproduce the problem I expect
I
just have some kind of registry corruption and I'll leave it at that.
For
the
little inconvenience it might cause me I don't think it's worth
spending
any
debugging time on it.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Can't repro your problem. I don't see where you answered my question.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
Well, it shouldn't be a big deal for Outlook's address block to
parse
address
information. I've got no problem "forcing" Outlook to do it. I
rather
think
of "doing it myself" as the instead part, as in instead of letting
Outlook
do
it for me. Anyway I'm pretty sure I understand how to make sure
Outlook
gets
it right now.

I expected Outlook to use the OS setting since I couldn't find any
option
in
Outlook (but I could be wrong) so that's where I looked to make sure
I
had
it
set to Canada as I mentioned, in the regional and language options
as
my
location.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

It has never been a good idea to paste address information into a
derived
field like the address block. When you do so, you force Outlook to
parse
the
data instead of doing it yourself. Outlook may or may not get it
right.
You
will.

Outlook relies on your operating system settings to set your
default
country. State how you set that.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
news Hello Russ.
I’m not sure I can follow the �There are no rules� idea. This
idea
“Outlook
cannot parse address information by itself when…� seems to be a
rule,
one
of
those rules I’m trying to understand.
Anyway clearly Outlook is consistent in how it formats an
address.
It
has
never simply put all of the information in the first field. To
me,
there
is
some “logic� that is being done to determine which info goes in
which
field
so I continued testing.
I took that same address from that same website and copied it to
a
text
document first so now all that was left was plain text. I copied
it
from
there and still the exact same placement of text within the
address
fields...
Anyway after lots of testing, I noticed that I could copy/paste
that
address
directly from the website to the address in the contact if I
added
the
country to it after (well, specifically a CR and then the
country).
That
address only worked when the country was Canada, not United
States
of
America, so I guess the logic for zip codes (being all numbers in
the
US
instead of letter/number/letter/space/number/letter/number in
Canada
made
the
difference.
I made a new clip in case my babbling on is confusing to anyone.
This
one
is
a bit smaller.
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr2.avi

I noticed a few other things with the formatting behavior;
If there are no CRs (address all on one line) the address starts
in
the
city
field.
If there are multiple CRs, all except what comes after the last
one
will
be
in the street address field.
I guess I answered my own questions about the formatting but I
hope
that
helps anyone else. I guess it’s less of a problem in the US since
the
default
country is the US.
My last question is does anyone know how to make Canada the
default
country
(for a new Outlook contact)?


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

What do you mean by "rules for parsing?" There are no rules.
Place
the
individual address elements into their respective fields.
Outlook
cannot
parse address information by itself when you place HTML code
into a
derived
field.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in
message
...
OK that's fine but does anyone know the rules for parsing or
where I
could
look them up? That was really my (perhaps mistated) question
if
you
refer
to
the last sentence of my original post.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

So you're copying and pasting from a Web page into a derived
field?
That
will have mixed results at best depending on the HTML code.
As I said, I'd parse the address elements yourself.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in
message
...
Hello Russ,

I guess that didn't mean much by itself, but I thought it
would
be
understood with the rest of the info and the actual
question.
I
guess
the
best way to explain is with a short video clip. It's about
3.6
MBs
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr.avi



"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide clearer information, please. "Just copy an address
directly
into
a
Contact" tells us nothing. That could mean anything. Parse
the
address
elements yourself.
Clarify how you set your location and in what operating
system.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in
message
...
I don't seem to be able to get the different parts of the
address
to
go
into
the intended fields if I just copy an address, say from
a
411.com
listing
directly into a contact. The information looks right but
if
I
click
on
the
address button to open the check address dialog most of
the
info
are
in
the
wrong fields.

Also I have my location in regional and laguage options
set
to
Canada
but
always end up with the county/region as US. Does anyone
know
the
rules
(commas / spaces or whatever) to match the data to the
right
fields
and
how
to set the country?

I wouldn't have tried it either but they are a Microsoft Certified Partner
and my research on them only turned up positive stuff. It found and fixed
1054 errors actually and my laptop is booting/shutting down/running very
noticably faster. I recommend them, at least for that program. As a bonus it
backsup the registry (better than system restore) and it defrags the
registry.

The last time I tried to defrag the registry was with a norton program and
it made things worse. This time it was an improvement.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Cool. I wonder how "registrybooster" knew what to fix? I've never been brave
enough to try utilities like that. I wonder how your location setting became
corrupt in the first place. That's what I suspected which is why I wanted
the details on how you had set it in the first place.
I've not seen this reported before, but it's a good one to add to the list,
especially if you can think of any of the steps to repro the problem in the
fist place.
BTW, the default behavior for inserting an address from Outlook in Word
should be to omit the country unless it is different from the local setting.
So it sounds like it is now behaving as expected since you fixed your
registry setting.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
Hi Russ,

Sorry, I figured that because Office 2007 OS compatibility starts with XP
SP2 and that the videos I made would have looked different on Vista, and
with
some other anecdotal information such as I called the settings regional
and
language options, people who could help would instinctively know I was
using
XP.

I wish you wouldn’t have said hadn’t “even� specified though because to me
that indicates a level of frustration. I apologize for any I caused, I
appreciate your helpful help and timely answers. I also checked my phone
and
modem options and the country/region for my location was already Canada as
well. Thanks for the suggestion.

I decided to try uniblue registrybooster which corrected many (registry)
errors and now when I click that address block button instead of the
country
already being filled in with United States of America the country field is
blank. I took that as an improvement (as a technical matter, no offence to
any US citizen) and tried that same Canadian address again from that
webpage
and it worked! All the info was placed in the right fields and it filled
in
Canada as the country


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

You assumed too much. You hadn't even specified your OS, so I could I
have
been sure you had made your settings correctly? You should also check to
be
sure you have your default dialing location set correctly because Outlook
will often use that to determine your location.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
news I assumed you you know that regional and language options is a control
panel
module. In XP the bottom of the first tab (regional options) is the
location
box. I set it to Canada. Since you can't reproduce the problem I expect
I
just have some kind of registry corruption and I'll leave it at that.
For
the
little inconvenience it might cause me I don't think it's worth
spending
any
debugging time on it.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Can't repro your problem. I don't see where you answered my question.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
Well, it shouldn't be a big deal for Outlook's address block to
parse
address
information. I've got no problem "forcing" Outlook to do it. I
rather
think
of "doing it myself" as the instead part, as in instead of letting
Outlook
do
it for me. Anyway I'm pretty sure I understand how to make sure
Outlook
gets
it right now.

I expected Outlook to use the OS setting since I couldn't find any
option
in
Outlook (but I could be wrong) so that's where I looked to make sure
I
had
it
set to Canada as I mentioned, in the regional and language options
as
my
location.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

It has never been a good idea to paste address information into a
derived
field like the address block. When you do so, you force Outlook to
parse
the
data instead of doing it yourself. Outlook may or may not get it
right.
You
will.

Outlook relies on your operating system settings to set your
default
country. State how you set that.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
news Hello Russ.
I’m not sure I can follow the �There are no rules� idea. This
idea
“Outlook
cannot parse address information by itself when…� seems to be a
rule,
one
of
those rules I’m trying to understand.
Anyway clearly Outlook is consistent in how it formats an
address.
It
has
never simply put all of the information in the first field. To
me,
there
is
some “logic� that is being done to determine which info goes in
which
field
so I continued testing.
I took that same address from that same website and copied it to
a
text
document first so now all that was left was plain text. I copied
it
from
there and still the exact same placement of text within the
address
fields...
Anyway after lots of testing, I noticed that I could copy/paste
that
address
directly from the website to the address in the contact if I
added
the
country to it after (well, specifically a CR and then the
country).
That
address only worked when the country was Canada, not United
States
of
America, so I guess the logic for zip codes (being all numbers in
the
US
instead of letter/number/letter/space/number/letter/number in
Canada
made
the
difference.
I made a new clip in case my babbling on is confusing to anyone.
This
one
is
a bit smaller.
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr2.avi

I noticed a few other things with the formatting behavior;
If there are no CRs (address all on one line) the address starts
in
the
city
field.
If there are multiple CRs, all except what comes after the last
one
will
be
in the street address field.
I guess I answered my own questions about the formatting but I
hope
that
helps anyone else. I guess it’s less of a problem in the US since
the
default
country is the US.
My last question is does anyone know how to make Canada the
default
country
(for a new Outlook contact)?


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

What do you mean by "rules for parsing?" There are no rules.
Place
the
individual address elements into their respective fields.
Outlook
cannot
parse address information by itself when you place HTML code
into a
derived
field.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in
message
...
OK that's fine but does anyone know the rules for parsing or
where I
could
look them up? That was really my (perhaps mistated) question
if
you
refer
to
the last sentence of my original post.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

So you're copying and pasting from a Web page into a derived
field?
That
will have mixed results at best depending on the HTML code.
As I said, I'd parse the address elements yourself.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in
message
...
Hello Russ,

I guess that didn't mean much by itself, but I thought it
would
be
understood with the rest of the info and the actual
question.
I
guess
the
best way to explain is with a short video clip. It's about
3.6
MBs
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr.avi



"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide clearer information, please. "Just copy an address
directly
into
a
Contact" tells us nothing. That could mean anything. Parse
the
address
elements yourself.
Clarify how you set your location and in what operating
system.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in
message
...
I don't seem to be able to get the different parts of the
address
to
go
into
the intended fields if I just copy an address, say from
a
411.com
listing
directly into a contact. The information looks right but
if
I
click
on
the
address button to open the check address dialog most of

Still wish I knew how your location settings got corrupted in the first
place.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
I wouldn't have tried it either but they are a Microsoft Certified Partner
and my research on them only turned up positive stuff. It found and fixed
1054 errors actually and my laptop is booting/shutting down/running very
noticably faster. I recommend them, at least for that program. As a bonus
it
backsup the registry (better than system restore) and it defrags the
registry.

The last time I tried to defrag the registry was with a norton program and
it made things worse. This time it was an improvement.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Cool. I wonder how "registrybooster" knew what to fix? I've never been
brave
enough to try utilities like that. I wonder how your location setting
became
corrupt in the first place. That's what I suspected which is why I wanted
the details on how you had set it in the first place.
I've not seen this reported before, but it's a good one to add to the
list,
especially if you can think of any of the steps to repro the problem in
the
fist place.
BTW, the default behavior for inserting an address from Outlook in Word
should be to omit the country unless it is different from the local
setting.
So it sounds like it is now behaving as expected since you fixed your
registry setting.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
Hi Russ,

Sorry, I figured that because Office 2007 OS compatibility starts with
XP
SP2 and that the videos I made would have looked different on Vista,
and
with
some other anecdotal information such as I called the settings regional
and
language options, people who could help would instinctively know I was
using
XP.

I wish you wouldn’t have said hadn’t “even� specified though because to
me
that indicates a level of frustration. I apologize for any I caused, I
appreciate your helpful help and timely answers. I also checked my
phone
and
modem options and the country/region for my location was already Canada
as
well. Thanks for the suggestion.

I decided to try uniblue registrybooster which corrected many
(registry)
errors and now when I click that address block button instead of the
country
already being filled in with United States of America the country field
is
blank. I took that as an improvement (as a technical matter, no offence
to
any US citizen) and tried that same Canadian address again from that
webpage
and it worked! All the info was placed in the right fields and it
filled
in
Canada as the country


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

You assumed too much. You hadn't even specified your OS, so I could I
have
been sure you had made your settings correctly? You should also check
to
be
sure you have your default dialing location set correctly because
Outlook
will often use that to determine your location.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
news I assumed you you know that regional and language options is a
control
panel
module. In XP the bottom of the first tab (regional options) is the
location
box. I set it to Canada. Since you can't reproduce the problem I
expect
I
just have some kind of registry corruption and I'll leave it at
that.
For
the
little inconvenience it might cause me I don't think it's worth
spending
any
debugging time on it.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Can't repro your problem. I don't see where you answered my
question.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
Well, it shouldn't be a big deal for Outlook's address block to
parse
address
information. I've got no problem "forcing" Outlook to do it. I
rather
think
of "doing it myself" as the instead part, as in instead of
letting
Outlook
do
it for me. Anyway I'm pretty sure I understand how to make sure
Outlook
gets
it right now.

I expected Outlook to use the OS setting since I couldn't find
any
option
in
Outlook (but I could be wrong) so that's where I looked to make
sure
I
had
it
set to Canada as I mentioned, in the regional and language
options
as
my
location.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

It has never been a good idea to paste address information into
a
derived
field like the address block. When you do so, you force Outlook
to
parse
the
data instead of doing it yourself. Outlook may or may not get it
right.
You
will.

Outlook relies on your operating system settings to set your
default
country. State how you set that.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in
message
news Hello Russ.
I’m not sure I can follow the �There are no rules� idea. This
idea
“Outlook
cannot parse address information by itself when…� seems to be
a
rule,
one
of
those rules I’m trying to understand.
Anyway clearly Outlook is consistent in how it formats an
address.
It
has
never simply put all of the information in the first field. To
me,
there
is
some “logic� that is being done to determine which info goes
in
which
field
so I continued testing.
I took that same address from that same website and copied it
to
a
text
document first so now all that was left was plain text. I
copied
it
from
there and still the exact same placement of text within the
address
fields...
Anyway after lots of testing, I noticed that I could
copy/paste
that
address
directly from the website to the address in the contact if I
added
the
country to it after (well, specifically a CR and then the
country).
That
address only worked when the country was Canada, not United
States
of
America, so I guess the logic for zip codes (being all numbers
in
the
US
instead of letter/number/letter/space/number/letter/number in
Canada
made
the
difference.
I made a new clip in case my babbling on is confusing to
anyone.
This
one
is
a bit smaller.
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr2.avi

I noticed a few other things with the formatting behavior;
If there are no CRs (address all on one line) the address
starts
in
the
city
field.
If there are multiple CRs, all except what comes after the
last
one
will
be
in the street address field.
I guess I answered my own questions about the formatting but I
hope
that
helps anyone else. I guess it’s less of a problem in the US
since
the
default
country is the US.
My last question is does anyone know how to make Canada the
default
country
(for a new Outlook contact)?


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

What do you mean by "rules for parsing?" There are no rules.
Place
the
individual address elements into their respective fields.
Outlook
cannot
parse address information by itself when you place HTML code
into a
derived
field.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in
message
...
OK that's fine but does anyone know the rules for parsing
or
where I
could
look them up? That was really my (perhaps mistated)
question
if
you
refer
to
the last sentence of my original post.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

So you're copying and pasting from a Web page into a
derived
field?
That
will have mixed results at best depending on the HTML
code.
As I said, I'd parse the address elements yourself.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in
message
...
Hello Russ,

I guess that didn't mean much by itself, but I thought
it
would
be
understood with the rest of the info and the actual
question.
I
guess
the
best way to explain is with a short video clip. It's
about
3.6
MBs
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr.avi



"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide clearer information, please. "Just copy an
address
directly
into
a
Contact" tells us nothing. That could mean anything.
Parse
the
address
elements yourself.
Clarify how you set your location and in what operating
system.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote
in
message
...
I don't seem to be able to get the different parts of
the
address
to
go
into
the intended fields if I just copy an address, say
from
a
411.com
listing
directly into a contact. The information looks right
but
if
I
click
on
the
address button to open the check address dialog most
of