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I followed the suggested route and created a new PST, opened the old one in
Outlook and copied from the old PST to the new. However, all of the journal entries associated with each contact are missing. I believe in 2000 Journal entries had there own entry in the folder tree, but that seems to have gone away in 2003. Thanks. |
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That would be expected. Not sure what suggestions you were following, but
they were not the right ones. If you need to preserve links, you use the same PST, not a new one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "pearsons_11114" wrote in message news ![]() I followed the suggested route and created a new PST, opened the old one in Outlook and copied from the old PST to the new. However, all of the journal entries associated with each contact are missing. I believe in 2000 Journal entries had there own entry in the folder tree, but that seems to have gone away in 2003. Thanks. |
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I'll dig up the link. In the meantime, how do I find the unlinked journal
entries. Are they deleted? "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: That would be expected. Not sure what suggestions you were following, but they were not the right ones. If you need to preserve links, you use the same PST, not a new one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "pearsons_11114" wrote in message news ![]() I followed the suggested route and created a new PST, opened the old one in Outlook and copied from the old PST to the new. However, all of the journal entries associated with each contact are missing. I believe in 2000 Journal entries had there own entry in the folder tree, but that seems to have gone away in 2003. Thanks. |
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Only if you do not still have the original PST file.
If you have some pressing need to convert to the new PST file format in Outlook 2003, then count on losing your links. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "pearsons_11114" wrote in message ... I'll dig up the link. In the meantime, how do I find the unlinked journal entries. Are they deleted? "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: That would be expected. Not sure what suggestions you were following, but they were not the right ones. If you need to preserve links, you use the same PST, not a new one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "pearsons_11114" wrote in message news ![]() I followed the suggested route and created a new PST, opened the old one in Outlook and copied from the old PST to the new. However, all of the journal entries associated with each contact are missing. I believe in 2000 Journal entries had there own entry in the folder tree, but that seems to have gone away in 2003. Thanks. |
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Well, I wouldn't call it a pressing need, just SOP. In the rest of the of the
software world, when a vendor changes the format of their product, the normal procedure is to provide a way users to convert existing data. That's usually pretty critical to retaining any customers. Not so on Planet Microsoft? ;-) That seems pretty lame. Seriously, I must be missing something here. "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Only if you do not still have the original PST file. If you have some pressing need to convert to the new PST file format in Outlook 2003, then count on losing your links. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "pearsons_11114" wrote in message ... I'll dig up the link. In the meantime, how do I find the unlinked journal entries. Are they deleted? "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: That would be expected. Not sure what suggestions you were following, but they were not the right ones. If you need to preserve links, you use the same PST, not a new one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "pearsons_11114" wrote in message news
I followed the suggested route and created a new PST, opened the old one in Outlook and copied from the old PST to the new. However, all of the journal entries associated with each contact are missing. I believe in 2000 Journal entries had there own entry in the folder tree, but that seems to have gone away in 2003. Thanks. |
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There is no way to convert a PST file. If you need to convert to the new
format, you create a new PST file in the new format. You copy the data you want from your old to the new. You lose: 1. Custom Forms 2. Custom Views 3. Connections between contacts and activities 4. Received dates on mail 5. Birthdays and anniversaries in calendar 6. Journal connections Continuing to use your old PST file preserves these. Don't blame me. This wasn't my idea. Microsoft makes you choose between the new format or the above information. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "pearsons_11114" wrote in message ... Well, I wouldn't call it a pressing need, just SOP. In the rest of the of the software world, when a vendor changes the format of their product, the normal procedure is to provide a way users to convert existing data. That's usually pretty critical to retaining any customers. Not so on Planet Microsoft? ;-) That seems pretty lame. Seriously, I must be missing something here. "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Only if you do not still have the original PST file. If you have some pressing need to convert to the new PST file format in Outlook 2003, then count on losing your links. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "pearsons_11114" wrote in message ... I'll dig up the link. In the meantime, how do I find the unlinked journal entries. Are they deleted? "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: That would be expected. Not sure what suggestions you were following, but they were not the right ones. If you need to preserve links, you use the same PST, not a new one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "pearsons_11114" wrote in message news
I followed the suggested route and created a new PST, opened the old one in Outlook and copied from the old PST to the new. However, all of the journal entries associated with each contact are missing. I believe in 2000 Journal entries had there own entry in the folder tree, but that seems to have gone away in 2003. Thanks. |
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Not blaming you, Russ. Sorry if it came across that way. I appreciate the
time you took to let me know how it works. I'm blaming Microsoft. The forum is one way of providing feedback to Microsoft and warning other users about gotchas like this. I think the list below speaks for itself. You can stick with the old format and eventually be unsupported. (Eventually the old format will not be readable by future versions of Outlook). Or you can use the new format and lose a bunch of critical information. Here are two links which describe two ways of upgrading to the new format. Notice that neither make any mention the rather critical fact that you will lose data in process. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/as...823561033.aspx http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/as...spx?mode=print "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: There is no way to convert a PST file. If you need to convert to the new format, you create a new PST file in the new format. You copy the data you want from your old to the new. You lose: 1. Custom Forms 2. Custom Views 3. Connections between contacts and activities 4. Received dates on mail 5. Birthdays and anniversaries in calendar 6. Journal connections Continuing to use your old PST file preserves these. Don't blame me. This wasn't my idea. Microsoft makes you choose between the new format or the above information. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "pearsons_11114" wrote in message ... Well, I wouldn't call it a pressing need, just SOP. In the rest of the of the software world, when a vendor changes the format of their product, the normal procedure is to provide a way users to convert existing data. That's usually pretty critical to retaining any customers. Not so on Planet Microsoft? ;-) That seems pretty lame. Seriously, I must be missing something here. "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Only if you do not still have the original PST file. If you have some pressing need to convert to the new PST file format in Outlook 2003, then count on losing your links. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "pearsons_11114" wrote in message ... I'll dig up the link. In the meantime, how do I find the unlinked journal entries. Are they deleted? "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: That would be expected. Not sure what suggestions you were following, but they were not the right ones. If you need to preserve links, you use the same PST, not a new one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "pearsons_11114" wrote in message news
I followed the suggested route and created a new PST, opened the old one in Outlook and copied from the old PST to the new. However, all of the journal entries associated with each contact are missing. I believe in 2000 Journal entries had there own entry in the folder tree, but that seems to have gone away in 2003. Thanks. |
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While I agree that Microsoft should have done a better job of this, you may
be overstating things a bit. 1. It is highly unlikely that ANSI format will ever be unsupported. 2. Most users have no need to migrate from ANSI to UNICODE 3. The information lost in migrating affects very few users. You want to know where I think they really blew it? When people export from a PST file in Outlook 2003, they are given no warning that the PST file they are about to create is incompatible with all other versions of Outlook. Nice. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "pearsons_11114" wrote in message ... Not blaming you, Russ. Sorry if it came across that way. I appreciate the time you took to let me know how it works. I'm blaming Microsoft. The forum is one way of providing feedback to Microsoft and warning other users about gotchas like this. I think the list below speaks for itself. You can stick with the old format and eventually be unsupported. (Eventually the old format will not be readable by future versions of Outlook). Or you can use the new format and lose a bunch of critical information. Here are two links which describe two ways of upgrading to the new format. Notice that neither make any mention the rather critical fact that you will lose data in process. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/as...823561033.aspx http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/as...spx?mode=print "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: There is no way to convert a PST file. If you need to convert to the new format, you create a new PST file in the new format. You copy the data you want from your old to the new. You lose: 1. Custom Forms 2. Custom Views 3. Connections between contacts and activities 4. Received dates on mail 5. Birthdays and anniversaries in calendar 6. Journal connections Continuing to use your old PST file preserves these. Don't blame me. This wasn't my idea. Microsoft makes you choose between the new format or the above information. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "pearsons_11114" wrote in message ... Well, I wouldn't call it a pressing need, just SOP. In the rest of the of the software world, when a vendor changes the format of their product, the normal procedure is to provide a way users to convert existing data. That's usually pretty critical to retaining any customers. Not so on Planet Microsoft? ;-) That seems pretty lame. Seriously, I must be missing something here. "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Only if you do not still have the original PST file. If you have some pressing need to convert to the new PST file format in Outlook 2003, then count on losing your links. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "pearsons_11114" wrote in message ... I'll dig up the link. In the meantime, how do I find the unlinked journal entries. Are they deleted? "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: That would be expected. Not sure what suggestions you were following, but they were not the right ones. If you need to preserve links, you use the same PST, not a new one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "pearsons_11114" wrote in message news
I followed the suggested route and created a new PST, opened the old one in Outlook and copied from the old PST to the new. However, all of the journal entries associated with each contact are missing. I believe in 2000 Journal entries had there own entry in the folder tree, but that seems to have gone away in 2003. Thanks. |
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