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Old September 10th 07, 09:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
af2604
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Default Outlook 2007 and IMAP

Hi all, I'm coming from Thunderbird and I'm testing Outlook 2007.
Usually I use an IMAP account, by Thunderbird when i delete an IMAP msg
this is moved from incoming messages to trash.
Is it possibile to do the same with Outlook 2007 ?
I have seen that Outlook simply mark a msg as deleted

Thanks

Alberto
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Old September 10th 07, 09:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Brian Tillman
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af2604 wrote:

Hi all, I'm coming from Thunderbird and I'm testing Outlook 2007.
Usually I use an IMAP account, by Thunderbird when i delete an IMAP
msg this is moved from incoming messages to trash.
Is it possibile to do the same with Outlook 2007 ?
I have seen that Outlook simply mark a msg as deleted


What you want is not possible in Outlook 2007 because the IMAP protocols
have no concept of a "trash" or "Deleted Items" folder. That was a
Thunderbird enhancement that is not part of how IMAP works.
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Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

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Old September 12th 07, 06:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Alberto
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Ok, but this is very strange and I don't understand the reason of this
choose.

If I use an IMAP account I can access to my email also via web (in most
cases) and if I delete some msg from web these go to trash folder.

If IMAP protocol don't use a trash folder concept, does it use a "spam"
folder as Outlook ?
I think no.

Thank you very much for the answer

Alberto

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af2604 wrote:

Hi all, I'm coming from Thunderbird and I'm testing Outlook 2007.
Usually I use an IMAP account, by Thunderbird when i delete an IMAP
msg this is moved from incoming messages to trash.
Is it possibile to do the same with Outlook 2007 ?
I have seen that Outlook simply mark a msg as deleted


What you want is not possible in Outlook 2007 because the IMAP protocols
have no concept of a "trash" or "Deleted Items" folder. That was a
Thunderbird enhancement that is not part of how IMAP works.
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]



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Old September 12th 07, 09:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Brian Tillman
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Alberto wrote:

If I use an IMAP account I can access to my email also via web (in
most cases) and if I delete some msg from web these go to trash
folder.


You can't access an IMAP account via a web browser. You can access a
_mailbox_ via a web browser that an IMAP server also references, however.
In thiis case, the web browser's access methods allow working with a trash
folder. The IMAP protocols, however, do not implement such a folder.

If IMAP protocol don't use a trash folder concept, does it use a
"spam" folder as Outlook ?


The IMAP protocols don't, per se, but Outlook adds one (that's local to
Outlook's IMAP PST) and can perform junk processing on the IMAP account's
Inbox. If a message gets moved to the Junk E-mail folder you see in the
IMAP PST, it will be on Outlok only, I believe. I don't think Outlook will
create a Junk E-mail folder that can be seen on the server side. I can't
test on Outlook 2007, right now, but that's the way Outlook 2003 handles it.
I know, however, there were significant changes in Outlook 2007's IMAP
handling, so perhaps it has been changed.
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Old September 12th 07, 09:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Gordon
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The IMAP protocols don't, per se, but Outlook adds one (that's local to
Outlook's IMAP PST) and can perform junk processing on the IMAP account's
Inbox. If a message gets moved to the Junk E-mail folder you see in the
IMAP PST, it will be on Outlok only, I believe. I don't think Outlook
will create a Junk E-mail folder that can be seen on the server side. I
can't test on Outlook 2007, right now, but that's the way Outlook 2003
handles it. I know, however, there were significant changes in Outlook
2007's IMAP handling, so perhaps it has been changed.


2007 does it that way as well.....


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Old September 13th 07, 12:24 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Hector C.
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The IMAP protocols don't, per se, but Outlook adds one (that's local
to Outlook's IMAP PST) and can perform junk processing on the IMAP
account's Inbox. If a message gets moved to the Junk E-mail folder
you see in the IMAP PST, it will be on Outlok only, I believe. I
don't think Outlook will create a Junk E-mail folder that can be seen
on the server side. I can't test on Outlook 2007, right now, but
that's the way Outlook 2003 handles it. I know, however, there were
significant changes in Outlook 2007's IMAP handling, so perhaps it has
been changed.


In my case, it does create the Junk mail folder on the server side.

++Hector C.
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Old September 13th 07, 12:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Hector C.
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af2604 wrote:
Hi all, I'm coming from Thunderbird and I'm testing Outlook 2007.
Usually I use an IMAP account, by Thunderbird when i delete an IMAP
msg this is moved from incoming messages to trash.
Is it possibile to do the same with Outlook 2007 ?
I have seen that Outlook simply mark a msg as deleted

Another couple things that you'll miss from Thunderbird:

* Move the PST file associated with an IMAP account.
* Native newsgroup support.

On the other hand, the calendar in Outlook 2007 is superb.

++Hector C.


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Old September 13th 07, 12:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Brian Tillman
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Hector C. wrote:

In my case, it does create the Junk mail folder on the server side.


Last night I set up an IMAP account with Outlook 2007 and it appears you're
correct. It seems to have created that folder on my server as well. I'll
test it again and see if it's consistent.
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Old September 13th 07, 01:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Gordon
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Hector C. wrote:

In my case, it does create the Junk mail folder on the server side.


Last night I set up an IMAP account with Outlook 2007 and it appears
you're correct. It seems to have created that folder on my server as
well. I'll test it again and see if it's consistent.



Mine also has a Junk folder on the server...


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Old September 13th 07, 01:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Brian Tillman
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Gordon wrote:

Mine also has a Junk folder on the server...


The server I use provides a folder named "SPAM" and that's where it dumps
junk mail detected by its own antispam filter. After connecting with
Outlook, I also see a "Junk E-mail" folder matching Outlook's folder's name.
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Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

 




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