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noworyz March 7th 07 07:15 PM

Mass Email with outlook
 
I have a client that has over 50,000 contacts in Outlook organized in
different categories with the largest being around 27,000 contacts.
He uses these to send out company newsletters and such. I am trying
to find a solution for him to be able to use mail merge and send out
an email to these contacts and have yet to find a viable solution.
Everything we have tried usually ends up crashing or having an
overflow error due to the amount of contacts.

Does anyone know a way or an application that would work with this
amount of contacts? Price is not an issue.

We have tried eMailMerge4Outlook, PC iMail, and Go Mail. They didn't
seem to work but maybe we didn't do something right!

Thanks for your help!


John Blessing March 7th 07 07:29 PM

Mass Email with outlook
 
"noworyz" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have a client that has over 50,000 contacts in Outlook organized in
different categories with the largest being around 27,000 contacts.
He uses these to send out company newsletters and such. I am trying
to find a solution for him to be able to use mail merge and send out
an email to these contacts and have yet to find a viable solution.
Everything we have tried usually ends up crashing or having an
overflow error due to the amount of contacts.

Does anyone know a way or an application that would work with this
amount of contacts? Price is not an issue.

We have tried eMailMerge4Outlook, PC iMail, and Go Mail. They didn't
seem to work but maybe we didn't do something right!

Thanks for your help!


Please try our email scheduler (http://www.lbetoolbox.com/scheduleemail.htm)
which will allow you to send multiple individual emails, html or plain text,
with attachments, either as a one-off or regularly at a specified time and
interval

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noworyz March 7th 07 07:33 PM

Mass Email with outlook
 
Does this have any limitations on the size of the contacts folder?


Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] March 7th 07 07:58 PM

Mass Email with outlook
 
I would not recommend Outlook as a manager for a list that size, mainly because you can expect a 10% bounce rate for each mailing. Do you really want to sort through 5,000 returned messages manually? I would use a server-based (hosted or local) listserv for this, selecting one that can distinguish among different types of bounces and can handle provide a self-service unsubscribe feature. There are many such non-Outlook tools available. Use your favorite search engine to scout around.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"noworyz" wrote in message oups.com...
I have a client that has over 50,000 contacts in Outlook organized in
different categories with the largest being around 27,000 contacts.
He uses these to send out company newsletters and such. I am trying
to find a solution for him to be able to use mail merge and send out
an email to these contacts and have yet to find a viable solution.
Everything we have tried usually ends up crashing or having an
overflow error due to the amount of contacts.

Does anyone know a way or an application that would work with this
amount of contacts? Price is not an issue.

We have tried eMailMerge4Outlook, PC iMail, and Go Mail. They didn't
seem to work but maybe we didn't do something right!

Thanks for your help!


F.H. Muffman March 7th 07 07:58 PM

Mass Email with outlook
 
noworyz wrote:
I have a client that has over 50,000 contacts in Outlook organized in
different categories with the largest being around 27,000 contacts.
He uses these to send out company newsletters and such. I am trying
to find a solution for him to be able to use mail merge and send out
an email to these contacts and have yet to find a viable solution.
Everything we have tried usually ends up crashing or having an
overflow error due to the amount of contacts.

Does anyone know a way or an application that would work with this
amount of contacts? Price is not an issue.


Honestly, if price isn't an issue, I'd buy a copy of Exchange and make all
the contacts Custom Recipients (if that's still the term) in the Global
Address list. You could then set up a locked down distribution list, and
even a custom method for users to unsubscribe.

Conversely, you could really use any sort of server based LISTSERV type
program.

Personally, I don't think Outlook is really designed for a newsletter type
spam system. Sure you can shoehorn it in there, but, you can shoehorn a
database into Excel too, but, it should really be done in SQL Server (or
access).

--
f.h.



noworyz March 7th 07 08:03 PM

Mass Email with outlook
 
On Mar 7, 12:58 pm, "Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]"
wrote:
I would not recommend Outlook as a manager for a list that size, mainly because you can expect a 10% bounce rate for each mailing. Do you really want to sort through 5,000 returned messages manually? I would use a server-based (hosted or local) listserv for this, selecting one that can distinguish among different types of bounces and can handle provide a self-service unsubscribe feature. There are many such non-Outlook tools available. Use your favorite search engine to scout around.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"noworyz" wrote in ooglegroups.com...
I have a client that has over 50,000 contacts in Outlook organized in
different categories with the largest being around 27,000 contacts.
He uses these to send out company newsletters and such. I am trying
to find a solution for him to be able to use mail merge and send out
an email to these contacts and have yet to find a viable solution.
Everything we have tried usually ends up crashing or having an
overflow error due to the amount of contacts.


Does anyone know a way or an application that would work with this
amount of contacts? Price is not an issue.


We have tried eMailMerge4Outlook, PC iMail, and Go Mail. They didn't
seem to work but maybe we didn't do something right!


Thanks for your help!





Would there be a possibility to import a CSV from my outlook contacts
into these kind of services?


Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] March 7th 07 08:12 PM

Mass Email with outlook
 
Would there be a possibility to import a CSV from my outlook contacts
into these kind of services?


Yes, all such services have methods for loading bulk addresses.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"noworyz" wrote in message s.com...
On Mar 7, 12:58 pm, "Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]"
wrote:
I would not recommend Outlook as a manager for a list that size, mainly because you can expect a 10% bounce rate for each mailing. Do you really want to sort through 5,000 returned messages manually? I would use a server-based (hosted or local) listserv for this, selecting one that can distinguish among different types of bounces and can handle provide a self-service unsubscribe feature. There are many such non-Outlook tools available. Use your favorite search engine to scout around.



"noworyz" wrote in ooglegroups.com...
I have a client that has over 50,000 contacts in Outlook organized in
different categories with the largest being around 27,000 contacts.
He uses these to send out company newsletters and such. I am trying
to find a solution for him to be able to use mail merge and send out
an email to these contacts and have yet to find a viable solution.
Everything we have tried usually ends up crashing or having an
overflow error due to the amount of contacts.


Does anyone know a way or an application that would work with this
amount of contacts? Price is not an issue.


Would there be a possibility to import a CSV from my outlook contacts
into these kind of services?


Diane Poremsky [MVP] March 7th 07 11:53 PM

Mass Email with outlook
 
importing them into exchange gal would be a nightmare. a list server or mail
application designed for sending mass mail would be a much better option.

--
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Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
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"F.H. Muffman" wrote in message
...

Honestly, if price isn't an issue, I'd buy a copy of Exchange and make all
the contacts Custom Recipients (if that's still the term) in the Global
Address list. You could then set up a locked down distribution list, and
even a custom method for users to unsubscribe.

Conversely, you could really use any sort of server based LISTSERV type
program.

Personally, I don't think Outlook is really designed for a newsletter type
spam system. Sure you can shoehorn it in there, but, you can shoehorn a
database into Excel too, but, it should really be done in SQL Server (or
access).

--
f.h.




F.H. Muffman March 8th 07 05:17 PM

Mass Email with outlook
 
Diane Poremsky [MVP] wrote:
Honestly, if price isn't an issue, I'd buy a copy of Exchange and
make all the contacts Custom Recipients (if that's still the term)
in the Global Address list. You could then set up a locked down
distribution list, and even a custom method for users to unsubscribe.

Conversely, you could really use any sort of server based LISTSERV
type program.

Personally, I don't think Outlook is really designed for a
newsletter type spam system. Sure you can shoehorn it in there,
but, you can shoehorn a database into Excel too, but, it should
really be done in SQL Server (or access).


importing them into exchange gal would be a nightmare. a list server
or mail application designed for sending mass mail would be a much
better option


I didn't think it'd be a nightmare with powershell in exchange 2007, and for
2000 and 2003,
http://groups.msn.com/windowsscript/...&sorts tring=
looks pretty easy.

=)

--
f.h.



Diane Poremsky [MVP] March 8th 07 08:39 PM

Mass Email with outlook
 
There are better scripts for creating contacts in the AD... there should be
one on cdolive.com that imports data from a spreadsheet. But that is not the
problem- managing a large # of contacts in exchange is the problem -
especially if he wants any sort of categorization. Editing and deleting when
is also a PITA - can't just open outlook and make changes like you can in
the contact folder.

A list server, such as available from lsoft.com, is much better. They sell a
lite version that might work ok for 27,000 contacts, but it's probably
better limited to about 5000. (I use it for 2800 subscribers.) Bulk mail
apps will also work well and should be able to easily handle 27,000
messages. Outlook would take days to send that many.

A list server can handle bounces much better - as sue said, you'll get
bounces and it's better if the software processes them and deletes the
address. On the two lists I run (12000 total subscribers), it's more like
2 -4% - around 400 total bounces per mailing. The software removes the
addresses for me after 2 consecutive bounces.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Outlook Tips:
http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:



"F.H. Muffman" wrote in message
...
Diane Poremsky [MVP] wrote:
Honestly, if price isn't an issue, I'd buy a copy of Exchange and
make all the contacts Custom Recipients (if that's still the term)
in the Global Address list. You could then set up a locked down
distribution list, and even a custom method for users to unsubscribe.

Conversely, you could really use any sort of server based LISTSERV
type program.

Personally, I don't think Outlook is really designed for a
newsletter type spam system. Sure you can shoehorn it in there,
but, you can shoehorn a database into Excel too, but, it should
really be done in SQL Server (or access).


importing them into exchange gal would be a nightmare. a list server
or mail application designed for sending mass mail would be a much
better option


I didn't think it'd be a nightmare with powershell in exchange 2007, and
for 2000 and 2003,
http://groups.msn.com/windowsscript/...&sorts tring=
looks pretty easy.

=)

--
f.h.





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