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C. Moya November 16th 06 05:01 AM

Office 2007 Colors Scheme
 
I use XP's Silver scheme. Why do some Office 2007 apps use a BLUE color
scheme while others like (Publisher) use the right scheme (XP Silver). It
looks horrible and contrasts with everything. Why the disparity?!!!

--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com



Bob Buckland ?:-\) November 16th 06 06:32 AM

Office 2007 Colors Scheme
 
Hi C.,

For the 2007 Office System, Word, Excel, Powerpoint, parts of Outlook and MS Access received the new 'Ribboned' interface. Those
apps use the 2007 Office theme for the Ribbon element and for their 'old style' dialog boxes, they pickup the Windows color
settings.

For the apps that stayed with the 'traditional' menus, such as MS Publisher 2007, the 'old rules' still apply as to what coloring
they follow. For backround and specifics on the User Interface changes you may want to visit the Office UI team blog at
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh

================
"C. Moya" wrote in message ...
I use XP's Silver scheme. Why do some Office 2007 apps use a BLUE color
scheme while others like (Publisher) use the right scheme (XP Silver). It
looks horrible and contrasts with everything. Why the disparity?!!!

-C. Moya
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*



C. Moya November 16th 06 07:08 AM

Office 2007 Colors Scheme
 
I'm not going to tell all my users to visit a blog. This is UI 101. I guess
they'll have to contend with an increasingly inconsistent and
headache-inducing UI... or not upgrade to Office 2007 at all.

--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com

"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote
in message ...
Hi C.,

For the 2007 Office System, Word, Excel, Powerpoint, parts of Outlook and
MS Access received the new 'Ribboned' interface. Those
apps use the 2007 Office theme for the Ribbon element and for their 'old
style' dialog boxes, they pickup the Windows color
settings.

For the apps that stayed with the 'traditional' menus, such as MS
Publisher 2007, the 'old rules' still apply as to what coloring
they follow. For backround and specifics on the User Interface changes
you may want to visit the Office UI team blog at
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh

================
"C. Moya" wrote in message
...
I use XP's Silver scheme. Why do some Office 2007 apps use a BLUE color
scheme while others like (Publisher) use the right scheme (XP Silver). It
looks horrible and contrasts with everything. Why the disparity?!!!

-C. Moya
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*





Patrick Schmid [MVP] November 16th 06 08:58 AM

Office 2007 Colors Scheme
 
Bob didn't mean that your users should read the blog. He meant that you
should go to the blog and read about how Office picks the color scheme.
The short is that the non-Ribbon apps pick a color scheme automatically
based on what the Windows setting is while the Ribbon apps have a
setting you can change. That setting is in Options, Popular and is
labeled "Color Scheme".
To read the explanation of how the color scheme stuff works in 2007 and
when Office picks what, read these two blog posts:
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archiv...10/694577.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archiv...14/699304.aspx

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"C. Moya" wrote in message
:

I'm not going to tell all my users to visit a blog. This is UI 101. I guess
they'll have to contend with an increasingly inconsistent and
headache-inducing UI... or not upgrade to Office 2007 at all.

--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com

"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote
in message ...
Hi C.,

For the 2007 Office System, Word, Excel, Powerpoint, parts of Outlook and
MS Access received the new 'Ribboned' interface. Those
apps use the 2007 Office theme for the Ribbon element and for their 'old
style' dialog boxes, they pickup the Windows color
settings.

For the apps that stayed with the 'traditional' menus, such as MS
Publisher 2007, the 'old rules' still apply as to what coloring
they follow. For backround and specifics on the User Interface changes
you may want to visit the Office UI team blog at
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh

================
"C. Moya" wrote in message
...
I use XP's Silver scheme. Why do some Office 2007 apps use a BLUE color
scheme while others like (Publisher) use the right scheme (XP Silver). It
looks horrible and contrasts with everything. Why the disparity?!!!

-C. Moya
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*




C. Moya November 16th 06 09:35 AM

Office 2007 Colors Scheme
 
I don't really think normal users care about the technical differences
between Ribbon and Non-ribbon apps. None of what Jensen said (and I've read
it before) explains why some Office 2007 apps on my desktop are BLUE and
others Silver.

Horrible, inconsistent, UI if you ask me. Just plain bad.

--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com
"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Bob didn't mean that your users should read the blog. He meant that you
should go to the blog and read about how Office picks the color scheme.
The short is that the non-Ribbon apps pick a color scheme automatically
based on what the Windows setting is while the Ribbon apps have a setting
you can change. That setting is in Options, Popular and is labeled "Color
Scheme".
To read the explanation of how the color scheme stuff works in 2007 and
when Office picks what, read these two blog posts:
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archiv...10/694577.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archiv...14/699304.aspx

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"C. Moya" wrote in message
:

I'm not going to tell all my users to visit a blog. This is UI 101. I
guess
they'll have to contend with an increasingly inconsistent and
headache-inducing UI... or not upgrade to Office 2007 at all.

--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com

"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com
wrote
in message ...
Hi C.,

For the 2007 Office System, Word, Excel, Powerpoint, parts of Outlook
and
MS Access received the new 'Ribboned' interface. Those
apps use the 2007 Office theme for the Ribbon element and for their
'old
style' dialog boxes, they pickup the Windows color
settings.

For the apps that stayed with the 'traditional' menus, such as MS
Publisher 2007, the 'old rules' still apply as to what coloring
they follow. For backround and specifics on the User Interface changes
you may want to visit the Office UI team blog at
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh

================
"C. Moya" wrote in message
...
I use XP's Silver scheme. Why do some Office 2007 apps use a BLUE color
scheme while others like (Publisher) use the right scheme (XP Silver).
It
looks horrible and contrasts with everything. Why the disparity?!!!

-C. Moya
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*






Patrick Schmid [MVP] November 16th 06 10:14 AM

Office 2007 Colors Scheme
 
Yes, it does explain it. Which ones are blue and which ones are silver?

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"C. Moya" wrote in message
:

I don't really think normal users care about the technical differences
between Ribbon and Non-ribbon apps. None of what Jensen said (and I've read
it before) explains why some Office 2007 apps on my desktop are BLUE and
others Silver.

Horrible, inconsistent, UI if you ask me. Just plain bad.

--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com
"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Bob didn't mean that your users should read the blog. He meant that you
should go to the blog and read about how Office picks the color scheme.
The short is that the non-Ribbon apps pick a color scheme automatically
based on what the Windows setting is while the Ribbon apps have a setting
you can change. That setting is in Options, Popular and is labeled "Color
Scheme".
To read the explanation of how the color scheme stuff works in 2007 and
when Office picks what, read these two blog posts:
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archiv...10/694577.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archiv...14/699304.aspx

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"C. Moya" wrote in message
:

I'm not going to tell all my users to visit a blog. This is UI 101. I
guess
they'll have to contend with an increasingly inconsistent and
headache-inducing UI... or not upgrade to Office 2007 at all.

--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com

"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com
wrote
in message ...
Hi C.,

For the 2007 Office System, Word, Excel, Powerpoint, parts of Outlook
and
MS Access received the new 'Ribboned' interface. Those
apps use the 2007 Office theme for the Ribbon element and for their
'old
style' dialog boxes, they pickup the Windows color
settings.

For the apps that stayed with the 'traditional' menus, such as MS
Publisher 2007, the 'old rules' still apply as to what coloring
they follow. For backround and specifics on the User Interface changes
you may want to visit the Office UI team blog at
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh

================
"C. Moya" wrote in message
...
I use XP's Silver scheme. Why do some Office 2007 apps use a BLUE color
scheme while others like (Publisher) use the right scheme (XP Silver).
It
looks horrible and contrasts with everything. Why the disparity?!!!

-C. Moya
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*





C. Moya November 16th 06 11:08 AM

Office 2007 Colors Scheme
 
It might "explain" it to you and me... technical people. It doesn't REALLY
explain why- aside from technical difficulties- Office 2007 installs with a
BLUE a theme on a WinXP set up to use XP Silver's scheme.

In other words, what I mean is that it doesn't JUSTIFY this totally
against-UI-conventions decision.

--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Yes, it does explain it. Which ones are blue and which ones are silver?

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"C. Moya" wrote in message
:

I don't really think normal users care about the technical differences
between Ribbon and Non-ribbon apps. None of what Jensen said (and I've
read
it before) explains why some Office 2007 apps on my desktop are BLUE and
others Silver.

Horrible, inconsistent, UI if you ask me. Just plain bad.

--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com
"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Bob didn't mean that your users should read the blog. He meant that you
should go to the blog and read about how Office picks the color scheme.
The short is that the non-Ribbon apps pick a color scheme automatically
based on what the Windows setting is while the Ribbon apps have a
setting
you can change. That setting is in Options, Popular and is labeled
"Color
Scheme".
To read the explanation of how the color scheme stuff works in 2007 and
when Office picks what, read these two blog posts:
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archiv...10/694577.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archiv...14/699304.aspx

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"C. Moya" wrote in message
:

I'm not going to tell all my users to visit a blog. This is UI 101. I
guess
they'll have to contend with an increasingly inconsistent and
headache-inducing UI... or not upgrade to Office 2007 at all.

--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com

"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com
wrote
in message ...
Hi C.,

For the 2007 Office System, Word, Excel, Powerpoint, parts of
Outlook
and
MS Access received the new 'Ribboned' interface. Those
apps use the 2007 Office theme for the Ribbon element and for their
'old
style' dialog boxes, they pickup the Windows color
settings.

For the apps that stayed with the 'traditional' menus, such as MS
Publisher 2007, the 'old rules' still apply as to what coloring
they follow. For backround and specifics on the User Interface
changes
you may want to visit the Office UI team blog at
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh

================
"C. Moya" wrote in message
...
I use XP's Silver scheme. Why do some Office 2007 apps use a BLUE
color
scheme while others like (Publisher) use the right scheme (XP
Silver).
It
looks horrible and contrasts with everything. Why the disparity?!!!

-C. Moya
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*







Patrick Schmid [MVP] November 16th 06 11:15 AM

Office 2007 Colors Scheme
 
It gives the user the choice to pick whatever scheme they prefer for
their Office ribbon apps. Doesn't sound like a complicated technical
explanation to me.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"C. Moya" wrote in message
:

It might "explain" it to you and me... technical people. It doesn't REALLY
explain why- aside from technical difficulties- Office 2007 installs with a
BLUE a theme on a WinXP set up to use XP Silver's scheme.

In other words, what I mean is that it doesn't JUSTIFY this totally
against-UI-conventions decision.

--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Yes, it does explain it. Which ones are blue and which ones are silver?

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"C. Moya" wrote in message
:

I don't really think normal users care about the technical differences
between Ribbon and Non-ribbon apps. None of what Jensen said (and I've
read
it before) explains why some Office 2007 apps on my desktop are BLUE and
others Silver.

Horrible, inconsistent, UI if you ask me. Just plain bad.

--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com
"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Bob didn't mean that your users should read the blog. He meant that you
should go to the blog and read about how Office picks the color scheme.
The short is that the non-Ribbon apps pick a color scheme automatically
based on what the Windows setting is while the Ribbon apps have a
setting
you can change. That setting is in Options, Popular and is labeled
"Color
Scheme".
To read the explanation of how the color scheme stuff works in 2007 and
when Office picks what, read these two blog posts:
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archiv...10/694577.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archiv...14/699304.aspx

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"C. Moya" wrote in message
:

I'm not going to tell all my users to visit a blog. This is UI 101. I
guess
they'll have to contend with an increasingly inconsistent and
headache-inducing UI... or not upgrade to Office 2007 at all.

--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com

"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com
wrote
in message ...
Hi C.,

For the 2007 Office System, Word, Excel, Powerpoint, parts of
Outlook
and
MS Access received the new 'Ribboned' interface. Those
apps use the 2007 Office theme for the Ribbon element and for their
'old
style' dialog boxes, they pickup the Windows color
settings.

For the apps that stayed with the 'traditional' menus, such as MS
Publisher 2007, the 'old rules' still apply as to what coloring
they follow. For backround and specifics on the User Interface
changes
you may want to visit the Office UI team blog at
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh

================
"C. Moya" wrote in message
...
I use XP's Silver scheme. Why do some Office 2007 apps use a BLUE
color
scheme while others like (Publisher) use the right scheme (XP
Silver).
It
looks horrible and contrasts with everything. Why the disparity?!!!

-C. Moya
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*






C. Moya November 16th 06 12:37 PM

Office 2007 Colors Scheme
 
Really? I wasn't presented with "the choice" at any time. I had to dig
around for the option. Sure I found it... but still. And it still doesn't
justify the anti-conventions thing. I guess (taking IE7 as an example) long
established norms, UI conventions and explicit guidelines are out the
window.

This is exactly what many of us spent the last 10 years telling our freshman
VB colleague programmers NOT to do. Enter the huge magenta buttons and
yellow background windows that don't use any of Windows' color definitions.
Oooh I can't wait.

--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
It gives the user the choice to pick whatever scheme they prefer for their
Office ribbon apps. Doesn't sound like a complicated technical explanation
to me.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"C. Moya" wrote in message
:

It might "explain" it to you and me... technical people. It doesn't
REALLY
explain why- aside from technical difficulties- Office 2007 installs with
a
BLUE a theme on a WinXP set up to use XP Silver's scheme.

In other words, what I mean is that it doesn't JUSTIFY this totally
against-UI-conventions decision.

--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Yes, it does explain it. Which ones are blue and which ones are silver?

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"C. Moya" wrote in message
:

I don't really think normal users care about the technical differences
between Ribbon and Non-ribbon apps. None of what Jensen said (and I've
read
it before) explains why some Office 2007 apps on my desktop are BLUE
and
others Silver.

Horrible, inconsistent, UI if you ask me. Just plain bad.

--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com
"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Bob didn't mean that your users should read the blog. He meant that
you
should go to the blog and read about how Office picks the color
scheme.
The short is that the non-Ribbon apps pick a color scheme
automatically
based on what the Windows setting is while the Ribbon apps have a
setting
you can change. That setting is in Options, Popular and is labeled
"Color
Scheme".
To read the explanation of how the color scheme stuff works in 2007
and
when Office picks what, read these two blog posts:
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archiv...10/694577.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archiv...14/699304.aspx

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"C. Moya" wrote in message
:

I'm not going to tell all my users to visit a blog. This is UI 101.
I
guess
they'll have to contend with an increasingly inconsistent and
headache-inducing UI... or not upgrade to Office 2007 at all.

--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com

"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful
Downtown)compuserve.com
wrote
in message ...
Hi C.,

For the 2007 Office System, Word, Excel, Powerpoint, parts of
Outlook
and
MS Access received the new 'Ribboned' interface. Those
apps use the 2007 Office theme for the Ribbon element and for
their
'old
style' dialog boxes, they pickup the Windows color
settings.

For the apps that stayed with the 'traditional' menus, such as MS
Publisher 2007, the 'old rules' still apply as to what coloring
they follow. For backround and specifics on the User Interface
changes
you may want to visit the Office UI team blog at
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh

================
"C. Moya" wrote in message
...
I use XP's Silver scheme. Why do some Office 2007 apps use a BLUE
color
scheme while others like (Publisher) use the right scheme (XP
Silver).
It
looks horrible and contrasts with everything. Why the
disparity?!!!

-C. Moya
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*








Patrick Schmid [MVP] November 16th 06 12:58 PM

Office 2007 Colors Scheme
 
Really? I wasn't presented with "the choice" at any time. I had to dig
around for the option. Sure I found it... but still. And it still doesn't

You can't call seeing it on the first option screen digging around.

justify the anti-conventions thing. I guess (taking IE7 as an example) long
established norms, UI conventions and explicit guidelines are out the
window.

If you come up with a completely new UI methodology (the ribbon) which
is the first real new thing in UI design since the 1970s (menus and
toolbars were invented back then), then why should you follow some
established norms, conventions and guidelines that are much younger than
that?
The Ribbon breaks the most fundamental UI concepts that are decades old.
If I had to design it, I could have also cared less for some 5-10 year
old less fundamental conventions.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed



--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
It gives the user the choice to pick whatever scheme they prefer for their
Office ribbon apps. Doesn't sound like a complicated technical explanation
to me.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"C. Moya" wrote in message
:

It might "explain" it to you and me... technical people. It doesn't
REALLY
explain why- aside from technical difficulties- Office 2007 installs with
a
BLUE a theme on a WinXP set up to use XP Silver's scheme.

In other words, what I mean is that it doesn't JUSTIFY this totally
against-UI-conventions decision.

--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Yes, it does explain it. Which ones are blue and which ones are silver?

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"C. Moya" wrote in message
:

I don't really think normal users care about the technical differences
between Ribbon and Non-ribbon apps. None of what Jensen said (and I've
read
it before) explains why some Office 2007 apps on my desktop are BLUE
and
others Silver.

Horrible, inconsistent, UI if you ask me. Just plain bad.

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-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com
"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Bob didn't mean that your users should read the blog. He meant that
you
should go to the blog and read about how Office picks the color
scheme.
The short is that the non-Ribbon apps pick a color scheme
automatically
based on what the Windows setting is while the Ribbon apps have a
setting
you can change. That setting is in Options, Popular and is labeled
"Color
Scheme".
To read the explanation of how the color scheme stuff works in 2007
and
when Office picks what, read these two blog posts:
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archiv...10/694577.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archiv...14/699304.aspx

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--------------
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http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
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OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
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"C. Moya" wrote in message
:

I'm not going to tell all my users to visit a blog. This is UI 101.
I
guess
they'll have to contend with an increasingly inconsistent and
headache-inducing UI... or not upgrade to Office 2007 at all.

--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com

"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful
Downtown)compuserve.com
wrote
in message ...
Hi C.,

For the 2007 Office System, Word, Excel, Powerpoint, parts of
Outlook
and
MS Access received the new 'Ribboned' interface. Those
apps use the 2007 Office theme for the Ribbon element and for
their
'old
style' dialog boxes, they pickup the Windows color
settings.

For the apps that stayed with the 'traditional' menus, such as MS
Publisher 2007, the 'old rules' still apply as to what coloring
they follow. For backround and specifics on the User Interface
changes
you may want to visit the Office UI team blog at
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh

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"C. Moya" wrote in message
...
I use XP's Silver scheme. Why do some Office 2007 apps use a BLUE
color
scheme while others like (Publisher) use the right scheme (XP
Silver).
It
looks horrible and contrasts with everything. Why the
disparity?!!!

-C. Moya
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*








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