While you're there, why not just have a shortcut to your search instead of
another 'feature' that's wanted by few, used by less and needed by none.

Actually, it's very popular and useful - and much needed by many people. The
old search was slow - the new search is very, very fast. Its a huge
improvement over the old search engine.

I installed Office 2007 last night. It prompted me to apply the desktop search, so I though OK - must be a cool new feature like Google's. It took my to the web page and I stupidly downloaded it. Well, this AM when I tried to use my PC everything was soooo slow (even just opening IE). I checked my Task Manager and saw PF Useage was quite high. Looking at the processes and adding the Page Fault column, I discovered a couple of the Search Index service exe's running with high values. I closed out the Search tool in my sys tray, but they remained running. I tried killing them (End Process) through Task Manager, but they came back. I decided to uninstall it, so I went to Add/Remove Programs and located the Windows Desktop Search 3.01. After opening up Office and getting through a few clunky spots, it's now running like a champ. My recommendation: Don't install it. And thanks to whoever posted the nugget on getting rid of the "Click here to enable..." message. That's a really dumb thing for them put in there.

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After search has had time to completely index your mail, it actually runs
quite well - but it can take some time if you have a large pst.

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"Paul" wrote in message ...
I installed Office 2007 last night. It prompted me to apply the desktop
search, so I though OK - must be a cool new feature like Google's. It took
my to the web page and I stupidly downloaded it. Well, this AM when I tried
to use my PC everything was soooo slow (even just opening IE). I checked
my Task Manager and saw PF Useage was quite high. Looking at the processes
and adding the Page Fault column, I discovered a couple of the Search Index
service exe's running with high values. I closed out the Search tool in my
sys tray, but they remained running. I tried killing them (End Process)
through Task Manager, but they came back. I decided to uninstall it, so I
went to Add/Remove Programs and located the Windows Desktop Search 3.01.
After opening up Office and getting through a few clunky spots, it's now
running like a champ. My recommendation: Don't install it. And thanks to
whoever posted the nugget on getting rid of the "Click here to enable..."
message. That's a really dumb thing for them put in there.

EggHeadCafe.com - .NET Developer Portal of Choice
http://www.eggheadcafe.com

Using either search item is crazy. Both slow your machine and as to Google's
version, I am sincerely doubtful where info about what is on your drive
goes. Don't use programs like that, MS or Google or anyone else. Turn search
indexing off. After all, 99% of the time you aren't searching for something
on your computer so why slow it down for the benefit of 1% of the time? You
are much better off having slower searches and an overall faster machine.


"Paul" wrote in message ...
I installed Office 2007 last night. It prompted me to apply the desktop
search, so I though OK - must be a cool new feature like Google's. It took
my to the web page and I stupidly downloaded it. Well, this AM when I tried
to use my PC everything was soooo slow (even just opening IE). I checked
my Task Manager and saw PF Useage was quite high. Looking at the processes
and adding the Page Fault column, I discovered a couple of the Search Index
service exe's running with high values. I closed out the Search tool in my
sys tray, but they remained running. I tried killing them (End Process)
through Task Manager, but they came back. I decided to uninstall it, so I
went to Add/Remove Programs and located the Windows Desktop Search 3.01.
After opening up Office and getting through a few clunky spots, it's now
running like a champ. My recommendation: Don't install it. And thanks to
whoever posted the nugget on getting rid of the "Click here to enable..."
message. That's a really dumb thing for them put in there.

EggHeadCafe.com - .NET Developer Portal of Choice
http://www.eggheadcafe.com

My Office 2007 is also running like a champ. Once the indexing is completed,
you will seldom notice it. Let it run to completion, even if you have to
leave the computer on all night. I do search my computer frequently (once a
week) and it is nice to find the results quickly.

"Diamontina Cocktail" wrote in message
...

Using either search item is crazy. Both slow your machine and as to
Google's version, I am sincerely doubtful where info about what is on your
drive goes. Don't use programs like that, MS or Google or anyone else.
Turn search indexing off. After all, 99% of the time you aren't searching
for something on your computer so why slow it down for the benefit of 1%
of the time? You are much better off having slower searches and an overall
faster machine.


"Paul" wrote in message ...
I installed Office 2007 last night. It prompted me to apply the desktop
search, so I though OK - must be a cool new feature like Google's. It
took my to the web page and I stupidly downloaded it. Well, this AM when I
tried to use my PC everything was soooo slow (even just opening IE). I
checked my Task Manager and saw PF Useage was quite high. Looking at the
processes and adding the Page Fault column, I discovered a couple of the
Search Index service exe's running with high values. I closed out the
Search tool in my sys tray, but they remained running. I tried killing
them (End Process) through Task Manager, but they came back. I decided to
uninstall it, so I went to Add/Remove Programs and located the Windows
Desktop Search 3.01. After opening up Office and getting through a few
clunky spots, it's now running like a champ. My recommendation: Don't
install it. And thanks to whoever posted the nugget on getting rid of the
"Click here to enable..." message. That's a really dumb thing for them
put in there.

EggHeadCafe.com - .NET Developer Portal of Choice
http://www.eggheadcafe.com

So - for the sake of once a week, the other 6 days, 23 hours and maybe 50
minutes, you are content to have a SIGNIFICANTLY slower machine with
indexing ON?

Crazy!

Me, I prefer my machine to work better but you enjoy the slowness. Each to
his own.


"Charles W Davis" wrote in message
...
My Office 2007 is also running like a champ. Once the indexing is
completed, you will seldom notice it. Let it run to completion, even if
you have to leave the computer on all night. I do search my computer
frequently (once a week) and it is nice to find the results quickly.

"Diamontina Cocktail" wrote in message
...

Using either search item is crazy. Both slow your machine and as to
Google's version, I am sincerely doubtful where info about what is on
your drive goes. Don't use programs like that, MS or Google or anyone
else. Turn search indexing off. After all, 99% of the time you aren't
searching for something on your computer so why slow it down for the
benefit of 1% of the time? You are much better off having slower searches
and an overall faster machine.


"Paul" wrote in message ...
I installed Office 2007 last night. It prompted me to apply the desktop
search, so I though OK - must be a cool new feature like Google's. It
took my to the web page and I stupidly downloaded it. Well, this AM when
I tried to use my PC everything was soooo slow (even just opening IE). I
checked my Task Manager and saw PF Useage was quite high. Looking at the
processes and adding the Page Fault column, I discovered a couple of the
Search Index service exe's running with high values. I closed out the
Search tool in my sys tray, but they remained running. I tried killing
them (End Process) through Task Manager, but they came back. I decided to
uninstall it, so I went to Add/Remove Programs and located the Windows
Desktop Search 3.01. After opening up Office and getting through a few
clunky spots, it's now running like a champ. My recommendation: Don't
install it. And thanks to whoever posted the nugget on getting rid of
the "Click here to enable..." message. That's a really dumb thing for
them put in there.

EggHeadCafe.com - .NET Developer Portal of Choice
http://www.eggheadcafe.com

anybody good for an idea to get ridd of that message right from scratch (i.e.
via registry setting or GPO)?

-thanks
-thomas

"Chewie" wrote:



"strrlvr" wrote:


Disable Instant Search

To not get prompted to download the Windows Desktop Search component, do the
following:

1. On the Tools menu, click Options.
2. Click Other, and then click Advanced Options.
3. Under General settings, clear the Show prompts to enable Instant
Search check box.

Note This check box does not appear if your computer runs Windows
Vista or if your computer runs Microsoft Windows XP and you have already
installed the Windows Desktop Search component.

To disable Instant Search if the Windows Desktop Search components are
already installed on your computer, clear the check boxes under Index
messages in these data files in the Search Options dialog box. For more
information, see Change the Instant Search options. Clearing the check boxes
disables search functionality, but does not remove the Instant Search pane.

Important Disabling Instant Search prevents you from using the Windows
Desktop Search query syntax. You can, however, use Advanced Find as in
earlier versions of Outlook. To use Advanced Find, on the Tools menu, point
to Instant Search, and then click Advanced Find, or just press CTRL+SHIFT+F.


This goes to show exactly how unwieldy Office options are. Trying to find
the option you want is a complete nightmare and the manus are not much better.

MS: sort them out so they're useable!
While you're there, why not just have a shortcut to your search instead of
another 'feature' that's wanted by few, used by less and needed by none.

Hi,

There is a policy for the prompt to install Search on Windows XP clients.
From the Outlk12.adm file, here is the setting:

POLICY !!L_Disableinstallationprompts
KEYNAME Software\Policies\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Outlook\Se arch
VALUENAME DisableDownloadSearchPrompt
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
EXPLAIN !!L_DisableinstallationpromptsExplain
END POLICY

this means if you push out the following registry data the prompt to install
Search shouold not occur for users.

Key: HKCU\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Outlo ok\Search
DWORD: DisableDownloadSearchPrompt
Value: 1

Hope this helps.
--
Thanks

greg mansius [MSFT]
Microsoft Office Outlook Support

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Please do not send email to this address, post a reply to this newsgroup.

"suse" wrote in message
...
anybody good for an idea to get ridd of that message right from scratch
(i.e.
via registry setting or GPO)?

-thanks
-thomas

"Chewie" wrote:



"strrlvr" wrote:


Disable Instant Search

To not get prompted to download the Windows Desktop Search component,
do the
following:

1. On the Tools menu, click Options.
2. Click Other, and then click Advanced Options.
3. Under General settings, clear the Show prompts to enable Instant
Search check box.

Note This check box does not appear if your computer runs
Windows
Vista or if your computer runs Microsoft Windows XP and you have
already
installed the Windows Desktop Search component.

To disable Instant Search if the Windows Desktop Search components are
already installed on your computer, clear the check boxes under Index
messages in these data files in the Search Options dialog box. For more
information, see Change the Instant Search options. Clearing the check
boxes
disables search functionality, but does not remove the Instant Search
pane.

Important Disabling Instant Search prevents you from using the
Windows
Desktop Search query syntax. You can, however, use Advanced Find as in
earlier versions of Outlook. To use Advanced Find, on the Tools menu,
point
to Instant Search, and then click Advanced Find, or just press
CTRL+SHIFT+F.


This goes to show exactly how unwieldy Office options are. Trying to find
the option you want is a complete nightmare and the manus are not much
better.

MS: sort them out so they're useable!
While you're there, why not just have a shortcut to your search instead
of
another 'feature' that's wanted by few, used by less and needed by none.

Hi Greg
Thanks very much - that info was very helpful.

I'm just not sure if I got it right .. do I actually have to add this part
to the office12.adm or should it already be in? I opened the latest version
on my network and it doesn't seem to in that file.

thanks again
thomas



"Greg Mansius [MSFT]" wrote:

Hi,

There is a policy for the prompt to install Search on Windows XP clients.
From the Outlk12.adm file, here is the setting:

POLICY !!L_Disableinstallationprompts
KEYNAME Software\Policies\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Outlook\Se arch
VALUENAME DisableDownloadSearchPrompt
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
EXPLAIN !!L_DisableinstallationpromptsExplain
END POLICY

this means if you push out the following registry data the prompt to install
Search shouold not occur for users.

Key: HKCU\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Outlo ok\Search
DWORD: DisableDownloadSearchPrompt
Value: 1

Hope this helps.
--
Thanks

greg mansius [MSFT]
Microsoft Office Outlook Support

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Please do not send email to this address, post a reply to this newsgroup.

"suse" wrote in message
...
anybody good for an idea to get ridd of that message right from scratch
(i.e.
via registry setting or GPO)?

-thanks
-thomas

"Chewie" wrote:



"strrlvr" wrote:


Disable Instant Search

To not get prompted to download the Windows Desktop Search component,
do the
following:

1. On the Tools menu, click Options.
2. Click Other, and then click Advanced Options.
3. Under General settings, clear the Show prompts to enable Instant
Search check box.

Note This check box does not appear if your computer runs
Windows
Vista or if your computer runs Microsoft Windows XP and you have
already
installed the Windows Desktop Search component.

To disable Instant Search if the Windows Desktop Search components are
already installed on your computer, clear the check boxes under Index
messages in these data files in the Search Options dialog box. For more
information, see Change the Instant Search options. Clearing the check
boxes
disables search functionality, but does not remove the Instant Search
pane.

Important Disabling Instant Search prevents you from using the
Windows
Desktop Search query syntax. You can, however, use Advanced Find as in
earlier versions of Outlook. To use Advanced Find, on the Tools menu,
point
to Instant Search, and then click Advanced Find, or just press
CTRL+SHIFT+F.


This goes to show exactly how unwieldy Office options are. Trying to find
the option you want is a complete nightmare and the manus are not much
better.

MS: sort them out so they're useable!
While you're there, why not just have a shortcut to your search instead
of
another 'feature' that's wanted by few, used by less and needed by none.

.... sorry ... I misread your reply (and found the setting in outlk.adm)

great solution :-)

thomas

"suse" wrote:

Hi Greg
Thanks very much - that info was very helpful.

I'm just not sure if I got it right .. do I actually have to add this part
to the office12.adm or should it already be in? I opened the latest version
on my network and it doesn't seem to in that file.

thanks again
thomas



"Greg Mansius [MSFT]" wrote:

Hi,

There is a policy for the prompt to install Search on Windows XP clients.
From the Outlk12.adm file, here is the setting:

POLICY !!L_Disableinstallationprompts
KEYNAME Software\Policies\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Outlook\Se arch
VALUENAME DisableDownloadSearchPrompt
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
EXPLAIN !!L_DisableinstallationpromptsExplain
END POLICY

this means if you push out the following registry data the prompt to install
Search shouold not occur for users.

Key: HKCU\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Outlo ok\Search
DWORD: DisableDownloadSearchPrompt
Value: 1

Hope this helps.
--
Thanks

greg mansius [MSFT]
Microsoft Office Outlook Support

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Please do not send email to this address, post a reply to this newsgroup.

"suse" wrote in message
...
anybody good for an idea to get ridd of that message right from scratch
(i.e.
via registry setting or GPO)?

-thanks
-thomas

"Chewie" wrote:



"strrlvr" wrote:


Disable Instant Search

To not get prompted to download the Windows Desktop Search component,
do the
following:

1. On the Tools menu, click Options.
2. Click Other, and then click Advanced Options.
3. Under General settings, clear the Show prompts to enable Instant
Search check box.

Note This check box does not appear if your computer runs
Windows
Vista or if your computer runs Microsoft Windows XP and you have
already
installed the Windows Desktop Search component.

To disable Instant Search if the Windows Desktop Search components are
already installed on your computer, clear the check boxes under Index
messages in these data files in the Search Options dialog box. For more
information, see Change the Instant Search options. Clearing the check
boxes
disables search functionality, but does not remove the Instant Search
pane.

Important Disabling Instant Search prevents you from using the
Windows
Desktop Search query syntax. You can, however, use Advanced Find as in
earlier versions of Outlook. To use Advanced Find, on the Tools menu,
point
to Instant Search, and then click Advanced Find, or just press
CTRL+SHIFT+F.


This goes to show exactly how unwieldy Office options are. Trying to find
the option you want is a complete nightmare and the manus are not much
better.

MS: sort them out so they're useable!
While you're there, why not just have a shortcut to your search instead
of
another 'feature' that's wanted by few, used by less and needed by none.