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Old October 9th 06, 11:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
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Posts: 4,698
Default Forwarding with Full Envelope Headers

I just consulted with a fellow MVP and he informs me that the message header information you are looking for will be stripped if sent outside the same exchange or email organization (I am using Exchange 2003 here at home).

The cure for this is to zip the attachment and the server will ignore the header information. Both Exchange and Imail servers will strip the information. I presume other mail servers behave the same.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Joe Mills asked:

| Yes - I can see all the ip address details for any email that is sent
| to me but if I try and view the details for a message that is
| attached I just see the reduced version.
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| wrote in message
| ...
| Well, I am stumped as it shows in mine, both in Outlook 2003 and 2007.
|
| Output here with relevant details removed:
|
| Received: from ms-smtp-03.xxxxxxxxx.rr.com ([65.24.5.137])
| by alnrmxc15.comcast.net (alnrmxc15) with ESMTP
| id 20061009014920a1500n6b6ue; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 01:49:20
| +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.24.5.137]
| Received: from computer (cpe-24-208-216-33.ISP Name [24.208.216.33])
| by ms-smtp-03.ISP Name(8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k991nGeP026328
| for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2006 21:49:16 -0400 (EDT)
| From: "Someone else"
| To: "'Milly Staples'"
| snip
|
| X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0
| Thread-index: AcbrGm1s0aEMuKEVSrigoXJnmOJSiQAFJICAAAWFkcA=
| Content-Language: en-us
| X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine
|
| Although I am sure you can figure out the ISPs involved, it shouldn't
| matter.
|
|
| --
| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
|
| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
| reading.
|
| After furious head scratching, Joe Mills asked:
|
|| I see the Reply-to, From and To etc. information but there is no
|| information about mail server ip addresses.
||
||
|| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
|| wrote in message
|| ...
|| If you open the attachement and use the VIew-Options selection, what
|| do you see?
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, Joe Mills asked:
||
||| Outlook 2003 Version 11.8010.8036 SP2. Mail server is Imail server
||| 2006.
|||
|||
|||
||| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
||| wrote in message
||| ...
||| Works here perfectly. What version(s) of Outlook are you using and
||| what type of mail server?
|||
||| --
||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
|||
||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
||| reading.
|||
||| After furious head scratching, Joe Mills asked:
|||
|||| That still didn't give me the mail server ip addresses when viewing
|||| the 'Internet Headers' of the attachment. Try it....
||||
||||
|||| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
|||| wrote in message
|||| ...
|||| Forward the message as an attachment using Insert-Item.
||||
|||| --
|||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||||
|||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
|||| without reading.
||||
|||| After furious head scratching, Joe Mills asked:
||||
||||| Hi,
|||||
||||| I'm having problems trying to forward a message which includes the
||||| full envelope headers i.e. including the mail server ip addresses
||||| etc. I'm using Outlook 2003 (SP2) and have tried using the Tools
||||| Options Email options
|||||| When forwarding a message - Attach original message and also
|||||| tried
||||| forwarding by selecting 2 messages clicking forward and then
||||| removing the one I don't want to send. In both instances they are
||||| forwarded as attachments but the only headers I see for the when I
||||| open the attachment (of the received message) and go to View
||||| Options are the Mail From and To etc (no ip addresses). Does
||||| anyone know a way of forwarding emails and including Full Envelope
||||| Headers?
|||||
||||| Thanks.
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  #12  
Old October 10th 06, 12:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Joe Mills
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Posts: 8
Default Forwarding with Full Envelope Headers

ok thanks for the info - i'll try the zipping technique.


"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
wrote in message
...
I just consulted with a fellow MVP and he informs me that the message header
information you are looking for will be stripped if sent outside the same
exchange or email organization (I am using Exchange 2003 here at home).

The cure for this is to zip the attachment and the server will ignore the
header information. Both Exchange and Imail servers will strip the
information. I presume other mail servers behave the same.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Joe Mills asked:

| Yes - I can see all the ip address details for any email that is sent
| to me but if I try and view the details for a message that is
| attached I just see the reduced version.
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| wrote in message
| ...
| Well, I am stumped as it shows in mine, both in Outlook 2003 and 2007.
|
| Output here with relevant details removed:
|
| Received: from ms-smtp-03.xxxxxxxxx.rr.com ([65.24.5.137])
| by alnrmxc15.comcast.net (alnrmxc15) with ESMTP
| id 20061009014920a1500n6b6ue; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 01:49:20
| +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.24.5.137]
| Received: from computer (cpe-24-208-216-33.ISP Name [24.208.216.33])
| by ms-smtp-03.ISP Name(8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k991nGeP026328
| for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2006 21:49:16 -0400 (EDT)
| From: "Someone else"
| To: "'Milly Staples'"
| snip
|
| X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0
| Thread-index: AcbrGm1s0aEMuKEVSrigoXJnmOJSiQAFJICAAAWFkcA=
| Content-Language: en-us
| X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine
|
| Although I am sure you can figure out the ISPs involved, it shouldn't
| matter.
|
|
| --
| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
|
| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
| reading.
|
| After furious head scratching, Joe Mills asked:
|
|| I see the Reply-to, From and To etc. information but there is no
|| information about mail server ip addresses.
||
||
|| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
|| wrote in message
|| ...
|| If you open the attachement and use the VIew-Options selection, what
|| do you see?
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, Joe Mills asked:
||
||| Outlook 2003 Version 11.8010.8036 SP2. Mail server is Imail server
||| 2006.
|||
|||
|||
||| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
||| wrote in message
||| ...
||| Works here perfectly. What version(s) of Outlook are you using and
||| what type of mail server?
|||
||| --
||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
|||
||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
||| reading.
|||
||| After furious head scratching, Joe Mills asked:
|||
|||| That still didn't give me the mail server ip addresses when viewing
|||| the 'Internet Headers' of the attachment. Try it....
||||
||||
|||| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
|||| wrote in message
|||| ...
|||| Forward the message as an attachment using Insert-Item.
||||
|||| --
|||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||||
|||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
|||| without reading.
||||
|||| After furious head scratching, Joe Mills asked:
||||
||||| Hi,
|||||
||||| I'm having problems trying to forward a message which includes the
||||| full envelope headers i.e. including the mail server ip addresses
||||| etc. I'm using Outlook 2003 (SP2) and have tried using the Tools
||||| Options Email options
|||||| When forwarding a message - Attach original message and also
|||||| tried
||||| forwarding by selecting 2 messages clicking forward and then
||||| removing the one I don't want to send. In both instances they are
||||| forwarded as attachments but the only headers I see for the when I
||||| open the attachment (of the received message) and go to View
||||| Options are the Mail From and To etc (no ip addresses). Does
||||| anyone know a way of forwarding emails and including Full Envelope
||||| Headers?
|||||
||||| Thanks.


 




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