On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:15:01 -0500, Gene3 wrote:

The bug occurs with Windows Live Mail and Vista. It has nothing to do with
Outlook, Outlook Express, or other mail/newsreader clients ...

Interesting. Your OP "Subject:" mentions Outlook Express (" news link in
OE6 won't work with x-usc: prefix"), yet you now say it has nothing to do
with MSOE? Also, FYI, Outlook is an email client and PIM; no news
capability, other than to invoke MSOE, and, maybe, any other client with
news reader capability.

... except that they (all of them) find such URLs dead, inactive because of
the spurious x-usc: prefix.

I have tried:

MS Outlook Express, on Windows XP MCE 2005; SP3. My followup is found as,
'Message-ID: '.

Windows Mail, on Windows Vista; SP2. My followup is found as, 'Message-ID:
'.

Mozilla Thunderbird 2.0.0.23, on Windows Vista; SP2. My followup is found
as, 'Message-ID: '.

With those three clients, on those to OSes, I am zero for three trying to
induce the 'x-usc:' address type to show in a link.

You can google for yourself and read about it,
searchstring: "x-usc windows mail vista".

I see. You're original problem statement does not include a full description
of what is happening. The problem only happens in Windows Mail. Using the
40tude Dialog (my newsreader) search function, the reader can't find
"Windows Mail" mentioned in your original problem statement. Sorry, I have
no way to find out what you omitted to include in your problem statement.
Your lack of clarity is a large part of why I am having trouble
understanding what is happening.

So, you copied a link, and then pasted it, while using Windows Mail. Let me
check my articles again ...

Relevant headers from the relevant article:

| Subject: news link in OE6 won't work with x-usc: prefix
| Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:38:09 -0700
| Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response
| Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005
| Message-ID:
| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress

Ah, but I am not posting to NNTP with HTML enabled. I wonder if enabling
HTML has something to do with the problem?

At this point I am too lazy to research this further. Your Google search
turns up a work around. Unfortunately, Windows Mail is as dead as MS Outlook
Express; any bugs are likely permanent, unless they are a critical security
issue. For future reference, when discussing problems with Windows Mail,
instead of posting a help request in an MS Outlook Express group, you would
do well to post to a Windows Mail help group:

news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...ows.vista.mail

And I am also too lazy to research if the bug has carried over into Windows
Live Mail; currently the only free mail&news client offered by Microsoft.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

You are obviously trying hard, but not finding it. It is there. It is
induced by a Vista computer and Windows Mail when copying links for posting
in email/news messages. I don't expect you or MS to find or fix it. They
haven't done so for over 2 years since it first appeared. It's better for
them to ignore it and hope it will go away. Still if you frequent the
various news groups you'll find people complaining that they can't open
certain links with their news clients. This is the reason. Invariably the
person posting the bad link has Vista with Windows Mail. I don't know if it
only happens with certain versions of Vista and/or Windows Mail. I could
give you links to such messages posted on various news servers and
newsgroups but believe that is considered taboo. I've seen prohibitions
about doing so, and don't understand why. I suppose I could do it via a
private email, if you care to let me know an email address for you that
works.
--
Max U Genius

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...
Gene3 wrote:
The news link displays normally in OE6:
news://newsserver/newsgroup
Looking at its source code, that is exactly how it appears in the source
code as well, no extra characters or prefix. However the link is dead
when
clicked, it goes nowhere. The reason is that apparently a x-usc: prefix
appears out of the blue for unknown reasons, so when hovering the mouse
over
the link it appears in the OE6 status bar as follows:
x-usc:news://newsserver/newsgroup
Where does the mysterious x-usc: prefix come from, why, and how can it be
fixed?

One more time. Using Mozilla Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 on Windows Vista; SP2.
Your link displays properly in the status bar. I can even copy it, thus:

news://newsserver/newsgroup

I am now three for three, unable to induce a client to show the 'x-usc:'
address type.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

You are obviously trying hard, but not finding it. It is there. It is
induced by a Vista computer and Windows Mail when copying links for posting
in email/news messages. I don't expect you or MS to find or fix it. They
haven't done so for over 2 years since it first appeared. It's better for
them to ignore it and hope it will go away. Still if you frequent the
various news groups you'll find people complaining that they can't open
certain links with their news clients. This is the reason. Invariably the
person posting the bad link has Vista with Windows Mail. I don't know if it
only happens with certain versions of Vista and/or Windows Mail. I could
give you links to such messages posted on various news servers and
newsgroups but believe that is considered taboo. I've seen prohibitions
about doing so, and don't understand why. I suppose I could do it via a
private email, if you care to let me know an email address for you that
works.
--
Max U Genius

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...
Gene3 wrote:
The news link displays normally in OE6:
news://newsserver/newsgroup
Looking at its source code, that is exactly how it appears in the source
code as well, no extra characters or prefix. However the link is dead
when
clicked, it goes nowhere. The reason is that apparently a x-usc: prefix
appears out of the blue for unknown reasons, so when hovering the mouse
over
the link it appears in the OE6 status bar as follows:
x-usc:news://newsserver/newsgroup
Where does the mysterious x-usc: prefix come from, why, and how can it be
fixed?

One more time. Using Mozilla Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 on Windows Vista; SP2.
Your link displays properly in the status bar. I can even copy it, thus:

news://newsserver/newsgroup

I am now three for three, unable to induce a client to show the 'x-usc:'
address type.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

Gene3 wrote:
...Still if you frequent the
various news groups you'll find people complaining that they can't open
certain links with their news clients. This is the reason....

That usually is NOT the case, Gene.

Gene3 wrote:
...Still if you frequent the
various news groups you'll find people complaining that they can't open
certain links with their news clients. This is the reason....

That usually is NOT the case, Gene.

On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:36:56 -0500, Gene3 wrote:

You are obviously trying hard, but not finding it. It is there. It is
induced by a Vista computer and Windows Mail when copying links for posting
in email/news messages. I don't expect you or MS to find or fix it.

The clue, here, is "Windows Mail". And you are right, Microsoft is never
going to fix it. They stopped development on Windows Mail a couple of years
ago; it is as dead as MS Outlook Express.

They haven't done so for over 2 years since it first appeared. It's better for
them to ignore it and hope it will go away.

It isn't a matter of "hoping it will go away", it is a matter of having
replaced Windows Mail (and MS Outlook Express) with a newer client: Windows
Live Mail. If the bug isn't present in Windows Live Mail, then it has been
addressed, and there is nothing more for Microsoft to do.

Still if you frequent the various news groups you'll find people complaining
that they can't open certain links with their news clients. This is the reason.
Invariably the person posting the bad link has Vista with Windows Mail.

I don't know if it only happens with certain versions of Vista and/or Windows Mail.

There is no other combination than Vista and Windows Mail. You can't get
Windows Mail on any other MS OS than Windows Vista. At this point, I am just
wondering if the issue is related to posting to newsgroups in HTML. I never
do. I never even considered the possibility that might be the problem until
after I shut down the Vista computer.

I could give you links to such messages posted on various news servers and
newsgroups but believe that is considered taboo. I've seen prohibitions
about doing so, and don't understand why. I suppose I could do it via a
private email, if you care to let me know an email address for you that
works.

It's right there, in my headers! (Hint: "Reply To:" works.)

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:36:56 -0500, Gene3 wrote:

You are obviously trying hard, but not finding it. It is there. It is
induced by a Vista computer and Windows Mail when copying links for posting
in email/news messages. I don't expect you or MS to find or fix it.

The clue, here, is "Windows Mail". And you are right, Microsoft is never
going to fix it. They stopped development on Windows Mail a couple of years
ago; it is as dead as MS Outlook Express.

They haven't done so for over 2 years since it first appeared. It's better for
them to ignore it and hope it will go away.

It isn't a matter of "hoping it will go away", it is a matter of having
replaced Windows Mail (and MS Outlook Express) with a newer client: Windows
Live Mail. If the bug isn't present in Windows Live Mail, then it has been
addressed, and there is nothing more for Microsoft to do.

Still if you frequent the various news groups you'll find people complaining
that they can't open certain links with their news clients. This is the reason.
Invariably the person posting the bad link has Vista with Windows Mail.

I don't know if it only happens with certain versions of Vista and/or Windows Mail.

There is no other combination than Vista and Windows Mail. You can't get
Windows Mail on any other MS OS than Windows Vista. At this point, I am just
wondering if the issue is related to posting to newsgroups in HTML. I never
do. I never even considered the possibility that might be the problem until
after I shut down the Vista computer.

I could give you links to such messages posted on various news servers and
newsgroups but believe that is considered taboo. I've seen prohibitions
about doing so, and don't understand why. I suppose I could do it via a
private email, if you care to let me know an email address for you that
works.

It's right there, in my headers! (Hint: "Reply To:" works.)

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

You have mail.

You have mail.

Typical block-headed MS ignorance & density...

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
Gene3 wrote:
...Still if you frequent the
various news groups you'll find people complaining that they can't open
certain links with their news clients. This is the reason....

That usually is NOT the case, Gene.