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  #1  
Old April 30th 09, 06:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
WhatsUp31415
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Posts: 49
Default Why OE does not use my specified fonts?

When I do Reply Group, OE seems to ignore my font selection.

How can I coerce OE to use my font selection?

My intent is to always use a non-proportional font, specifically Courier
New.

That works fine when I compose a new message.

But when I do Reply Group, I get a proportional font, presumably Arial.

This is true whether or not I select the Send option "Include message in
reply".

I have the following settings:


1. Read Fonts Fonts:

Western European
Proportion font: Courier New
Fixed-width font: Courier New
Font size: Medium
Encoding: Western European (Windows)
Default encoding: Western European
Pressed Set as Default

2. Send:

Uncheck "Reply to messags using the format in which they were sent"

3. Send Mail Sending Format
Send News Sendind Format:

Select Plain Text
Setting:
MIME with Encode: None
(Also tried Uuencode)

4. Compose:

Mail: 10pt Courier New
News: 10pt Courier New

I am using MS Win XP Pro 2002 SP3 with OE6 revision 6.00.2900.5512 (xpsp
080413-2105) with all patches through the end of March.


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Old April 30th 09, 07:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Michael Santovec
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Posts: 2,875
Default Why OE does not use my specified fonts?

Since you are using Plain Text for newsgroups, which is the generally
preferred format, ANY font that you use will only be seen by you while
composing. It will not be sent with the message and any viewers will
see whatever font their system is set to use.

Are you seeing the original message that you are replying to in Courier
New?

If not, make sure that you've set Tools, Options, Read, Read All Message
in plain text.

As for what you trying to do, the critical part is setting the
Proportional Font. The compose settings only apply to HTML format
message.

And what you are trying to do works in my Outlook Express.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"WhatsUp31415" wrote in message
...
When I do Reply Group, OE seems to ignore my font selection.

How can I coerce OE to use my font selection?
My intent is to always use a non-proportional font, specifically
Courier New.

That works fine when I compose a new message.

But when I do Reply Group, I get a proportional font, presumably
Arial.

This is true whether or not I select the Send option "Include message
in reply".

I have the following settings:


1. Read Fonts Fonts:

Western European
Proportion font: Courier New
Fixed-width font: Courier New
Font size: Medium
Encoding: Western European (Windows)
Default encoding: Western European
Pressed Set as Default

2. Send:

Uncheck "Reply to messags using the format in which they were
sent"

3. Send Mail Sending Format
Send News Sendind Format:

Select Plain Text
Setting:
MIME with Encode: None
(Also tried Uuencode)

4. Compose:

Mail: 10pt Courier New
News: 10pt Courier New

I am using MS Win XP Pro 2002 SP3 with OE6 revision 6.00.2900.5512
(xpsp 080413-2105) with all patches through the end of March.


  #3  
Old April 30th 09, 07:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Michael Santovec
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Posts: 2,875
Default Why OE does not use my specified fonts?

Since you are using Plain Text for newsgroups, which is the generally
preferred format, ANY font that you use will only be seen by you while
composing. It will not be sent with the message and any viewers will
see whatever font their system is set to use.

Are you seeing the original message that you are replying to in Courier
New?

If not, make sure that you've set Tools, Options, Read, Read All Message
in plain text.

As for what you trying to do, the critical part is setting the
Proportional Font. The compose settings only apply to HTML format
message.

And what you are trying to do works in my Outlook Express.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"WhatsUp31415" wrote in message
...
When I do Reply Group, OE seems to ignore my font selection.

How can I coerce OE to use my font selection?
My intent is to always use a non-proportional font, specifically
Courier New.

That works fine when I compose a new message.

But when I do Reply Group, I get a proportional font, presumably
Arial.

This is true whether or not I select the Send option "Include message
in reply".

I have the following settings:


1. Read Fonts Fonts:

Western European
Proportion font: Courier New
Fixed-width font: Courier New
Font size: Medium
Encoding: Western European (Windows)
Default encoding: Western European
Pressed Set as Default

2. Send:

Uncheck "Reply to messags using the format in which they were
sent"

3. Send Mail Sending Format
Send News Sendind Format:

Select Plain Text
Setting:
MIME with Encode: None
(Also tried Uuencode)

4. Compose:

Mail: 10pt Courier New
News: 10pt Courier New

I am using MS Win XP Pro 2002 SP3 with OE6 revision 6.00.2900.5512
(xpsp 080413-2105) with all patches through the end of March.


  #4  
Old April 30th 09, 08:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
WhatsUp31415
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Posts: 49
Default Why OE does not use my specified fonts?

"Michael Santovec" wrote:
If not, make sure that you've set Tools, Options, Read,
Read All Message in plain text.


Thanks for that.


Are you seeing the original message that you are replying
to in Courier New?


No, not even after I implemented your suggestion above in addition to all
the other settings that I documented in my original posting. I exited and
restarted OE.


And what you are trying to do works in my Outlook Express.


You and I are not using the same software or revision for posting. What are
you using?

When you post, the relevant headers a

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206

When I post, those headers a

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579


----- original message -----

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
Since you are using Plain Text for newsgroups, which is the generally
preferred format, ANY font that you use will only be seen by you while
composing. It will not be sent with the message and any viewers will see
whatever font their system is set to use.

Are you seeing the original message that you are replying to in Courier
New?

If not, make sure that you've set Tools, Options, Read, Read All Message
in plain text.

As for what you trying to do, the critical part is setting the
Proportional Font. The compose settings only apply to HTML format
message.

And what you are trying to do works in my Outlook Express.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"WhatsUp31415" wrote in message
...
When I do Reply Group, OE seems to ignore my font selection.

How can I coerce OE to use my font selection?
My intent is to always use a non-proportional font, specifically Courier
New.

That works fine when I compose a new message.

But when I do Reply Group, I get a proportional font, presumably Arial.

This is true whether or not I select the Send option "Include message in
reply".

I have the following settings:


1. Read Fonts Fonts:

Western European
Proportion font: Courier New
Fixed-width font: Courier New
Font size: Medium
Encoding: Western European (Windows)
Default encoding: Western European
Pressed Set as Default

2. Send:

Uncheck "Reply to messags using the format in which they were sent"

3. Send Mail Sending Format
Send News Sendind Format:

Select Plain Text
Setting:
MIME with Encode: None
(Also tried Uuencode)

4. Compose:

Mail: 10pt Courier New
News: 10pt Courier New

I am using MS Win XP Pro 2002 SP3 with OE6 revision 6.00.2900.5512 (xpsp
080413-2105) with all patches through the end of March.



  #5  
Old April 30th 09, 08:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
WhatsUp31415
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Posts: 49
Default Why OE does not use my specified fonts?

"Michael Santovec" wrote:
If not, make sure that you've set Tools, Options, Read,
Read All Message in plain text.


Thanks for that.


Are you seeing the original message that you are replying
to in Courier New?


No, not even after I implemented your suggestion above in addition to all
the other settings that I documented in my original posting. I exited and
restarted OE.


And what you are trying to do works in my Outlook Express.


You and I are not using the same software or revision for posting. What are
you using?

When you post, the relevant headers a

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206

When I post, those headers a

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579


----- original message -----

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
Since you are using Plain Text for newsgroups, which is the generally
preferred format, ANY font that you use will only be seen by you while
composing. It will not be sent with the message and any viewers will see
whatever font their system is set to use.

Are you seeing the original message that you are replying to in Courier
New?

If not, make sure that you've set Tools, Options, Read, Read All Message
in plain text.

As for what you trying to do, the critical part is setting the
Proportional Font. The compose settings only apply to HTML format
message.

And what you are trying to do works in my Outlook Express.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"WhatsUp31415" wrote in message
...
When I do Reply Group, OE seems to ignore my font selection.

How can I coerce OE to use my font selection?
My intent is to always use a non-proportional font, specifically Courier
New.

That works fine when I compose a new message.

But when I do Reply Group, I get a proportional font, presumably Arial.

This is true whether or not I select the Send option "Include message in
reply".

I have the following settings:


1. Read Fonts Fonts:

Western European
Proportion font: Courier New
Fixed-width font: Courier New
Font size: Medium
Encoding: Western European (Windows)
Default encoding: Western European
Pressed Set as Default

2. Send:

Uncheck "Reply to messags using the format in which they were sent"

3. Send Mail Sending Format
Send News Sendind Format:

Select Plain Text
Setting:
MIME with Encode: None
(Also tried Uuencode)

4. Compose:

Mail: 10pt Courier New
News: 10pt Courier New

I am using MS Win XP Pro 2002 SP3 with OE6 revision 6.00.2900.5512 (xpsp
080413-2105) with all patches through the end of March.



  #6  
Old April 30th 09, 08:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear [MS MVP]
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Posts: 3,647
Default Why OE does not use my specified fonts?

You're posting in Plain Text so what you see when you're composing has no effect on what others (or you) see when you're reading the post.

Now, if you posted in RichText (HTML), your posts would look like this one (if read in OE).
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


WhatsUp31415 wrote:
When I do Reply Group, OE seems to ignore my font selection.

How can I coerce OE to use my font selection?

My intent is to always use a non-proportional font, specifically Courier
New.

That works fine when I compose a new message.

But when I do Reply Group, I get a proportional font, presumably Arial.

This is true whether or not I select the Send option "Include message in
reply".

I have the following settings:


1. Read Fonts Fonts:

Western European
Proportion font: Courier New
Fixed-width font: Courier New
Font size: Medium
Encoding: Western European (Windows)
Default encoding: Western European
Pressed Set as Default

2. Send:

Uncheck "Reply to messags using the format in which they were sent"

3. Send Mail Sending Format
Send News Sendind Format:

Select Plain Text
Setting:
MIME with Encode: None
(Also tried Uuencode)

4. Compose:

Mail: 10pt Courier New
News: 10pt Courier New

I am using MS Win XP Pro 2002 SP3 with OE6 revision 6.00.2900.5512 (xpsp
080413-2105) with all patches through the end of March.

  #7  
Old April 30th 09, 08:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear [MS MVP]
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Posts: 3,647
Default Why OE does not use my specified fonts?

You're posting in Plain Text so what you see when you're composing has no effect on what others (or you) see when you're reading the post.

Now, if you posted in RichText (HTML), your posts would look like this one (if read in OE).
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


WhatsUp31415 wrote:
When I do Reply Group, OE seems to ignore my font selection.

How can I coerce OE to use my font selection?

My intent is to always use a non-proportional font, specifically Courier
New.

That works fine when I compose a new message.

But when I do Reply Group, I get a proportional font, presumably Arial.

This is true whether or not I select the Send option "Include message in
reply".

I have the following settings:


1. Read Fonts Fonts:

Western European
Proportion font: Courier New
Fixed-width font: Courier New
Font size: Medium
Encoding: Western European (Windows)
Default encoding: Western European
Pressed Set as Default

2. Send:

Uncheck "Reply to messags using the format in which they were sent"

3. Send Mail Sending Format
Send News Sendind Format:

Select Plain Text
Setting:
MIME with Encode: None
(Also tried Uuencode)

4. Compose:

Mail: 10pt Courier New
News: 10pt Courier New

I am using MS Win XP Pro 2002 SP3 with OE6 revision 6.00.2900.5512 (xpsp
080413-2105) with all patches through the end of March.

  #8  
Old May 1st 09, 12:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
WhatsUp31415
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 49
Default Why OE does not use my specified fonts?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
You're posting in Plain Text so what you see when
you're composing has no effect on what others (or you)
see when you're reading the post.


I guess my original posting was unclear. I am interested in controlling the
font used when I am composing using Reply Group.

I understand that with Plain Text, I cannot control the font that others see
when reading the posting. Nonetheless, I expect my font settings to
determine how __I__ read the posting; and they do.

There is no problem with the font when I compose a new posting. But my font
setting is ignored when I compose a reply (i.e. Reply Group). See my first
posting and my follow-up to Michael's response to determine if I have set
all the necessary options.


Now, if you posted in RichText (HTML) [....]


First, when I try to send a posting using HTML, I get a pop-up from OE that
indicates that many news readers "cannot display HTML". The pop-up
recommends using Plain Text for posting to "widely read newsgroups".

I am not sure what "cannot display HTML" means. Your HTML posting was sent
as multipart message: the first part is text/plain; the second part is
text/html. I believe that is common, if not standard; and I believe that
most, if not all, modern mail/news readers parse multipart messages,
displaying the part that suits them.

So arguably, "cannot display HTML" simply means that the recipient will see
the plain text form of the message, which will lack some richness.

Second, however, when I did use HTML, I got complaints from frequent and
valued contributors in the newsgroups that I frequent because it made it
difficult for them to "quote" parts of my messages in their responses.

In fact, to compose this reply, I had to copy-and-paste from your HTML text
and insert my own "" indentation. No big deal for me; I'm used to doing
that, having used a dumb mailer on Unix systems for decades. But
apparently, that's too much trouble for many people that I interact with.


----- original messages ------

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
You're posting in Plain Text so what you see when you're composing has no
effect on what others (or you) see when you're reading the post.

Now, if you posted in RichText (HTML), your posts would look like this one
(if read in OE).
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


WhatsUp31415 wrote:
When I do Reply Group, OE seems to ignore my font selection.

How can I coerce OE to use my font selection?

My intent is to always use a non-proportional font, specifically Courier
New.

That works fine when I compose a new message.

But when I do Reply Group, I get a proportional font, presumably Arial.

This is true whether or not I select the Send option "Include message in
reply".

I have the following settings:


1. Read Fonts Fonts:

Western European
Proportion font: Courier New
Fixed-width font: Courier New
Font size: Medium
Encoding: Western European (Windows)
Default encoding: Western European
Pressed Set as Default

2. Send:

Uncheck "Reply to messags using the format in which they were sent"

3. Send Mail Sending Format
Send News Sendind Format:

Select Plain Text
Setting:
MIME with Encode: None
(Also tried Uuencode)

4. Compose:

Mail: 10pt Courier New
News: 10pt Courier New

I am using MS Win XP Pro 2002 SP3 with OE6 revision 6.00.2900.5512 (xpsp
080413-2105) with all patches through the end of March.


  #9  
Old May 1st 09, 12:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
WhatsUp31415
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Posts: 49
Default Why OE does not use my specified fonts?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
You're posting in Plain Text so what you see when
you're composing has no effect on what others (or you)
see when you're reading the post.


I guess my original posting was unclear. I am interested in controlling the
font used when I am composing using Reply Group.

I understand that with Plain Text, I cannot control the font that others see
when reading the posting. Nonetheless, I expect my font settings to
determine how __I__ read the posting; and they do.

There is no problem with the font when I compose a new posting. But my font
setting is ignored when I compose a reply (i.e. Reply Group). See my first
posting and my follow-up to Michael's response to determine if I have set
all the necessary options.


Now, if you posted in RichText (HTML) [....]


First, when I try to send a posting using HTML, I get a pop-up from OE that
indicates that many news readers "cannot display HTML". The pop-up
recommends using Plain Text for posting to "widely read newsgroups".

I am not sure what "cannot display HTML" means. Your HTML posting was sent
as multipart message: the first part is text/plain; the second part is
text/html. I believe that is common, if not standard; and I believe that
most, if not all, modern mail/news readers parse multipart messages,
displaying the part that suits them.

So arguably, "cannot display HTML" simply means that the recipient will see
the plain text form of the message, which will lack some richness.

Second, however, when I did use HTML, I got complaints from frequent and
valued contributors in the newsgroups that I frequent because it made it
difficult for them to "quote" parts of my messages in their responses.

In fact, to compose this reply, I had to copy-and-paste from your HTML text
and insert my own "" indentation. No big deal for me; I'm used to doing
that, having used a dumb mailer on Unix systems for decades. But
apparently, that's too much trouble for many people that I interact with.


----- original messages ------

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
You're posting in Plain Text so what you see when you're composing has no
effect on what others (or you) see when you're reading the post.

Now, if you posted in RichText (HTML), your posts would look like this one
(if read in OE).
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


WhatsUp31415 wrote:
When I do Reply Group, OE seems to ignore my font selection.

How can I coerce OE to use my font selection?

My intent is to always use a non-proportional font, specifically Courier
New.

That works fine when I compose a new message.

But when I do Reply Group, I get a proportional font, presumably Arial.

This is true whether or not I select the Send option "Include message in
reply".

I have the following settings:


1. Read Fonts Fonts:

Western European
Proportion font: Courier New
Fixed-width font: Courier New
Font size: Medium
Encoding: Western European (Windows)
Default encoding: Western European
Pressed Set as Default

2. Send:

Uncheck "Reply to messags using the format in which they were sent"

3. Send Mail Sending Format
Send News Sendind Format:

Select Plain Text
Setting:
MIME with Encode: None
(Also tried Uuencode)

4. Compose:

Mail: 10pt Courier New
News: 10pt Courier New

I am using MS Win XP Pro 2002 SP3 with OE6 revision 6.00.2900.5512 (xpsp
080413-2105) with all patches through the end of March.


  #10  
Old May 1st 09, 12:55 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear [MS MVP]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,647
Default Why OE does not use my specified fonts?

In fact, to compose this reply, I had to copy-and-paste from your HTML
text
and insert my own "" indentation.


If you had OE-QuoteFix installed, all you had to do was (1) open an HTML
reply, (2) close it & save it to Drafts, then (3) reopen it from Drafts. w


WhatsUp31415 wrote:
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
You're posting in Plain Text so what you see when
you're composing has no effect on what others (or you)
see when you're reading the post.


I guess my original posting was unclear. I am interested in controlling
the
font used when I am composing using Reply Group.

I understand that with Plain Text, I cannot control the font that others
see
when reading the posting. Nonetheless, I expect my font settings to
determine how __I__ read the posting; and they do.

There is no problem with the font when I compose a new posting. But my
font
setting is ignored when I compose a reply (i.e. Reply Group). See my
first
posting and my follow-up to Michael's response to determine if I have set
all the necessary options.


Now, if you posted in RichText (HTML) [....]


First, when I try to send a posting using HTML, I get a pop-up from OE
that
indicates that many news readers "cannot display HTML". The pop-up
recommends using Plain Text for posting to "widely read newsgroups".

I am not sure what "cannot display HTML" means. Your HTML posting was
sent
as multipart message: the first part is text/plain; the second part is
text/html. I believe that is common, if not standard; and I believe that
most, if not all, modern mail/news readers parse multipart messages,
displaying the part that suits them.

So arguably, "cannot display HTML" simply means that the recipient will
see
the plain text form of the message, which will lack some richness.

Second, however, when I did use HTML, I got complaints from frequent and
valued contributors in the newsgroups that I frequent because it made it
difficult for them to "quote" parts of my messages in their responses.

In fact, to compose this reply, I had to copy-and-paste from your HTML
text
and insert my own "" indentation. No big deal for me; I'm used to doing
that, having used a dumb mailer on Unix systems for decades. But
apparently, that's too much trouble for many people that I interact with.


----- original messages ------

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
You're posting in Plain Text so what you see when you're composing has no
effect on what others (or you) see when you're reading the post.

Now, if you posted in RichText (HTML), your posts would look like this one
(if read in OE).

WhatsUp31415 wrote:
When I do Reply Group, OE seems to ignore my font selection.

How can I coerce OE to use my font selection?

My intent is to always use a non-proportional font, specifically Courier
New.

That works fine when I compose a new message.

But when I do Reply Group, I get a proportional font, presumably Arial.

This is true whether or not I select the Send option "Include message in
reply".

I have the following settings:


1. Read Fonts Fonts:

Western European
Proportion font: Courier New
Fixed-width font: Courier New
Font size: Medium
Encoding: Western European (Windows)
Default encoding: Western European
Pressed Set as Default

2. Send:

Uncheck "Reply to messags using the format in which they were sent"

3. Send Mail Sending Format
Send News Sendind Format:

Select Plain Text
Setting:
MIME with Encode: None
(Also tried Uuencode)

4. Compose:

Mail: 10pt Courier New
News: 10pt Courier New

I am using MS Win XP Pro 2002 SP3 with OE6 revision 6.00.2900.5512 (xpsp
080413-2105) with all patches through the end of March.


 




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