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  #41  
Old March 29th 10, 04:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Zac Thompson[_2_]
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Posts: 151
Default Help! Need to reduce size of .bak file (2GB+!).


"Zac Thompson" wrote in message
...

"Zac Thompson" wrote in message
...

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Please start your own new post on the future. I don't keep posts on my
newsreader for more than a few days and this dates back to October,
2008. Thank you.

The two most common reasons for what you describe is disruption of the
compacting process, (never touch anything until it's finished), or
bloated folders. More on that below.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

Why Mail Disappears:
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovery tools:

If you are running XP/SP2, or SP3, and are fully patched, then you
should have a backup of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, (or possibly
the message store), copied as bak files.

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first find the
location of the Message Store.

Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
your Outlook Express files. Write the location down and navigate to it
in Windows Explorer or, copy and paste it into Start | Run.

In WinXP, the .dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files in Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders under
Start | Control Panel | Folder Options | View.

Close OE and then in Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the
missing, or empty, folder and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted
later once you have successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the
Message Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the *exact*
same name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg:
If the file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the
new folder and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty,
continue on to the next step.

First, check if there is a bak file already in the message store. If
there is, and you removed the dbx file, go ahead and rename it to dbx.

If it isn't already in the message store, open the Recycle bin and right
click on the bak file for the folder in question and click Restore. Open
the message store back up and change the file extension from .bak to
.dbx. Close the message store and open OE. The messages should now be
back in the folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete
the old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

If you do not have bak copies of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin,
then:

DBXpress run in Extract From Disk Mode is the best chance to recover
messages:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

And see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4

A general warning to help avoid this in the futu

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and
move your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
created folders under 300MB, and Default folders as empty as is
feasible.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer of protection that eats up CPUs, slows down sending and receiving,
and causes a multitude of problems such as time-outs, account setting
changes and has even been responsible for lose of messages. Your
up-to-date A/V program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For
more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

And backup often.

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB Freeware)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


"mmradio" wrote in message
...
Bruce,
I have read all of your responses and they are very helpful. The
problem
that I have is that the inbox.bak file is not in the recycle bin.
everything
else is. I lost 11 months worth of emails from my inbox today when I
compacted. Do you have any advise on why the inbox was not backed up
or
where it might be.

Thanks,
MM


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Have you tried restoring the bak file? If you can, and then split it
up,
that would be the easiest way. Otherwise, you will need an extraction
tool.

All e-mail items may be missing when you start Outlook Express 6
Service
Pack 1:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918069

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first locate the
Message Store in Windows Explorer.

In OE: Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the
location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the
folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then Start | Run | Ctrl+V will put
the
location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise,
write
the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WinXP, the dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files
in Windows Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders
under
Start | Control Panel | Folder Options Icon | View, or in Windows
Explorer |
Tools | Folder Options | View.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the missing, or empty,
folder
and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted later once you have
successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the Message Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the
*exact* same
name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg: If
the
file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the new
folder
and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty, continue on
to
the next step.

First, check if there is a bak file already in the message store. If
there
is, and you removed the dbx file, go ahead and rename it to dbx.

If it isn't already in the message store, open the Recycle bin and
right
click on the bak file for the folder in question and click Restore.
Open the
message store back up and change the file extension from .bak to .dbx.
Close
the message store and open OE. The messages should now be back in the
folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete
the
old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

General precautions for Outlook Express:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and
move your
mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually
while
working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders
are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
until
the compacting is completed.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer
of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems
such as
time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V program
will
continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in
background and
leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.

And backup often.

Backup & Resto
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/

This is a great two click program:

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"DimitriR" wrote in message
...
My inbox crashed. After reading several threads, I compacted all
files,
and
the inbox went to the Recycling Bin. I found the problem was the
size of
my
inbox - 2+GB!. How/where can I restore it so that I can edit the
file,
splitting up what I need into smaller files and deleting the rest?
I presume I can't open it without OE? How can I do that without
crashing
OE
all over again?
System: I have OE6 on XP SP3
DimitriR









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  #42  
Old March 29th 10, 04:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Zac Thompson[_2_]
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Posts: 151
Default Help! Need to reduce size of .bak file (2GB+!).


"Zac Thompson" wrote in message
...

"Zac Thompson" wrote in message
...

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Please start your own new post on the future. I don't keep posts on my
newsreader for more than a few days and this dates back to October,
2008. Thank you.

The two most common reasons for what you describe is disruption of the
compacting process, (never touch anything until it's finished), or
bloated folders. More on that below.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

Why Mail Disappears:
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovery tools:

If you are running XP/SP2, or SP3, and are fully patched, then you
should have a backup of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, (or possibly
the message store), copied as bak files.

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first find the
location of the Message Store.

Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
your Outlook Express files. Write the location down and navigate to it
in Windows Explorer or, copy and paste it into Start | Run.

In WinXP, the .dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files in Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders under
Start | Control Panel | Folder Options | View.

Close OE and then in Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the
missing, or empty, folder and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted
later once you have successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the
Message Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the *exact*
same name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg:
If the file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the
new folder and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty,
continue on to the next step.

First, check if there is a bak file already in the message store. If
there is, and you removed the dbx file, go ahead and rename it to dbx.

If it isn't already in the message store, open the Recycle bin and right
click on the bak file for the folder in question and click Restore. Open
the message store back up and change the file extension from .bak to
.dbx. Close the message store and open OE. The messages should now be
back in the folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete
the old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

If you do not have bak copies of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin,
then:

DBXpress run in Extract From Disk Mode is the best chance to recover
messages:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

And see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4

A general warning to help avoid this in the futu

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and
move your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
created folders under 300MB, and Default folders as empty as is
feasible.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer of protection that eats up CPUs, slows down sending and receiving,
and causes a multitude of problems such as time-outs, account setting
changes and has even been responsible for lose of messages. Your
up-to-date A/V program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For
more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

And backup often.

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB Freeware)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


"mmradio" wrote in message
...
Bruce,
I have read all of your responses and they are very helpful. The
problem
that I have is that the inbox.bak file is not in the recycle bin.
everything
else is. I lost 11 months worth of emails from my inbox today when I
compacted. Do you have any advise on why the inbox was not backed up
or
where it might be.

Thanks,
MM


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Have you tried restoring the bak file? If you can, and then split it
up,
that would be the easiest way. Otherwise, you will need an extraction
tool.

All e-mail items may be missing when you start Outlook Express 6
Service
Pack 1:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918069

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first locate the
Message Store in Windows Explorer.

In OE: Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the
location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the
folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then Start | Run | Ctrl+V will put
the
location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise,
write
the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WinXP, the dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files
in Windows Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders
under
Start | Control Panel | Folder Options Icon | View, or in Windows
Explorer |
Tools | Folder Options | View.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the missing, or empty,
folder
and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted later once you have
successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the Message Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the
*exact* same
name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg: If
the
file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the new
folder
and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty, continue on
to
the next step.

First, check if there is a bak file already in the message store. If
there
is, and you removed the dbx file, go ahead and rename it to dbx.

If it isn't already in the message store, open the Recycle bin and
right
click on the bak file for the folder in question and click Restore.
Open the
message store back up and change the file extension from .bak to .dbx.
Close
the message store and open OE. The messages should now be back in the
folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete
the
old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

General precautions for Outlook Express:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and
move your
mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually
while
working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders
are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
until
the compacting is completed.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer
of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems
such as
time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V program
will
continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in
background and
leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.

And backup often.

Backup & Resto
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/

This is a great two click program:

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"DimitriR" wrote in message
...
My inbox crashed. After reading several threads, I compacted all
files,
and
the inbox went to the Recycling Bin. I found the problem was the
size of
my
inbox - 2+GB!. How/where can I restore it so that I can edit the
file,
splitting up what I need into smaller files and deleting the rest?
I presume I can't open it without OE? How can I do that without
crashing
OE
all over again?
System: I have OE6 on XP SP3
DimitriR









  #43  
Old March 29th 10, 04:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Zac Thompson[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 151
Default Help! Need to reduce size of .bak file (2GB+!).


"Zac Thompson" wrote in message
...

"Zac Thompson" wrote in message
...

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
If that is the case, then the only thing that is going to possibly help
is the run the extract from disk feature of DBXpress
(www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/) . Since the messages are no longer in the
files, then the only thing that might recover them is to scan the entire
hard drive for messages and recover what is there, which is what
DBXpress will do.

steve

"mmradio" wrote in message
...
Bruce,
I have read all of your responses and they are very helpful. The
problem
that I have is that the inbox.bak file is not in the recycle bin.
everything
else is. I lost 11 months worth of emails from my inbox today when I
compacted. Do you have any advise on why the inbox was not backed up
or
where it might be.

Thanks,
MM


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Have you tried restoring the bak file? If you can, and then split it
up,
that would be the easiest way. Otherwise, you will need an extraction
tool.

All e-mail items may be missing when you start Outlook Express 6
Service
Pack 1:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918069

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first locate the
Message Store in Windows Explorer.

In OE: Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the
location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the
folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then Start | Run | Ctrl+V will put
the
location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise,
write
the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WinXP, the dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files
in Windows Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders
under
Start | Control Panel | Folder Options Icon | View, or in Windows
Explorer |
Tools | Folder Options | View.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the missing, or empty,
folder
and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted later once you have
successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the Message Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the
*exact* same
name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg: If
the
file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the new
folder
and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty, continue on
to
the next step.

First, check if there is a bak file already in the message store. If
there
is, and you removed the dbx file, go ahead and rename it to dbx.

If it isn't already in the message store, open the Recycle bin and
right
click on the bak file for the folder in question and click Restore.
Open the
message store back up and change the file extension from .bak to .dbx.
Close
the message store and open OE. The messages should now be back in the
folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete
the
old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

General precautions for Outlook Express:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and
move your
mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually
while
working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders
are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
until
the compacting is completed.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer
of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems
such as
time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V program
will
continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in
background and
leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.

And backup often.

Backup & Resto
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/

This is a great two click program:

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"DimitriR" wrote in message
...
My inbox crashed. After reading several threads, I compacted all
files,
and
the inbox went to the Recycling Bin. I found the problem was the
size of
my
inbox - 2+GB!. How/where can I restore it so that I can edit the
file,
splitting up what I need into smaller files and deleting the rest?
I presume I can't open it without OE? How can I do that without
crashing
OE
all over again?
System: I have OE6 on XP SP3
DimitriR










  #44  
Old March 29th 10, 04:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Zac Thompson[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 151
Default Help! Need to reduce size of .bak file (2GB+!).


"Zac Thompson" wrote in message
...

"Zac Thompson" wrote in message
...

"mackserve" wrote in message
...
no
"mmradio" wrote in message
...
Bruce,
I have read all of your responses and they are very helpful. The
problem
that I have is that the inbox.bak file is not in the recycle bin.
everything
else is. I lost 11 months worth of emails from my inbox today when I
compacted. Do you have any advise on why the inbox was not backed up
or
where it might be.

Thanks,
MM


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Have you tried restoring the bak file? If you can, and then split it
up,
that would be the easiest way. Otherwise, you will need an extraction
tool.

All e-mail items may be missing when you start Outlook Express 6
Service
Pack 1:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918069

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first locate the
Message Store in Windows Explorer.

In OE: Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the
location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the
folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then Start | Run | Ctrl+V will put
the
location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise,
write
the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WinXP, the dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files
in Windows Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders
under
Start | Control Panel | Folder Options Icon | View, or in Windows
Explorer |
Tools | Folder Options | View.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the missing, or empty,
folder
and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted later once you have
successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the Message Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the
*exact* same
name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg: If
the
file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the new
folder
and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty, continue on
to
the next step.

First, check if there is a bak file already in the message store. If
there
is, and you removed the dbx file, go ahead and rename it to dbx.

If it isn't already in the message store, open the Recycle bin and
right
click on the bak file for the folder in question and click Restore.
Open the
message store back up and change the file extension from .bak to .dbx.
Close
the message store and open OE. The messages should now be back in the
folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete
the
old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

General precautions for Outlook Express:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and
move your
mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually
while
working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders
are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
until
the compacting is completed.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer
of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems
such as
time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V program
will
continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in
background and
leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.

And backup often.

Backup & Resto
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/

This is a great two click program:

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"DimitriR" wrote in message
...
My inbox crashed. After reading several threads, I compacted all
files,
and
the inbox went to the Recycling Bin. I found the problem was the
size of
my
inbox - 2+GB!. How/where can I restore it so that I can edit the
file,
splitting up what I need into smaller files and deleting the rest?
I presume I can't open it without OE? How can I do that without
crashing
OE
all over again?
System: I have OE6 on XP SP3
DimitriR










  #45  
Old March 29th 10, 04:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Zac Thompson[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 151
Default Help! Need to reduce size of .bak file (2GB+!).



"Zac Thompson" wrote in message
...

"Zac Thompson" wrote in message
...

"mackserve" wrote in message
...
no
"mmradio" wrote in message
...
Bruce,
I have read all of your responses and they are very helpful. The
problem
that I have is that the inbox.bak file is not in the recycle bin.
everything
else is. I lost 11 months worth of emails from my inbox today when I
compacted. Do you have any advise on why the inbox was not backed up
or
where it might be.

Thanks,
MM


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Have you tried restoring the bak file? If you can, and then split it
up,
that would be the easiest way. Otherwise, you will need an extraction
tool.

All e-mail items may be missing when you start Outlook Express 6
Service
Pack 1:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918069

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first locate the
Message Store in Windows Explorer.

In OE: Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the
location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the
folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then Start | Run | Ctrl+V will put
the
location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise,
write
the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WinXP, the dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files
in Windows Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders
under
Start | Control Panel | Folder Options Icon | View, or in Windows
Explorer |
Tools | Folder Options | View.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the missing, or empty,
folder
and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted later once you have
successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the Message Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the
*exact* same
name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg: If
the
file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the new
folder
and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty, continue on
to
the next step.

First, check if there is a bak file already in the message store. If
there
is, and you removed the dbx file, go ahead and rename it to dbx.

If it isn't already in the message store, open the Recycle bin and
right
click on the bak file for the folder in question and click Restore.
Open the
message store back up and change the file extension from .bak to .dbx.
Close
the message store and open OE. The messages should now be back in the
folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete
the
old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

General precautions for Outlook Express:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and
move your
mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually
while
working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders
are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
until
the compacting is completed.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer
of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems
such as
time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V program
will
continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in
background and
leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.

And backup often.

Backup & Resto
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/

This is a great two click program:

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"DimitriR" wrote in message
...
My inbox crashed. After reading several threads, I compacted all
files,
and
the inbox went to the Recycling Bin. I found the problem was the
size of
my
inbox - 2+GB!. How/where can I restore it so that I can edit the
file,
splitting up what I need into smaller files and deleting the rest?
I presume I can't open it without OE? How can I do that without
crashing
OE
all over again?
System: I have OE6 on XP SP3
DimitriR










  #46  
Old March 29th 10, 04:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Zac Thompson[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 151
Default Help! Need to reduce size of .bak file (2GB+!).


"Zac Thompson" wrote in message
...

"Zac Thompson" wrote in message
...

"mmradio" wrote in message
...
Bruce,
I have read all of your responses and they are very helpful. The
problem
that I have is that the inbox.bak file is not in the recycle bin.
everything
else is. I lost 11 months worth of emails from my inbox today when I
compacted. Do you have any advise on why the inbox was not backed up or
where it might be.

Thanks,
MM


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Have you tried restoring the bak file? If you can, and then split it
up,
that would be the easiest way. Otherwise, you will need an extraction
tool.

All e-mail items may be missing when you start Outlook Express 6
Service
Pack 1:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918069

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first locate the
Message Store in Windows Explorer.

In OE: Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the
location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the
folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then Start | Run | Ctrl+V will put the
location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise,
write
the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WinXP, the dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files
in Windows Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders
under
Start | Control Panel | Folder Options Icon | View, or in Windows
Explorer |
Tools | Folder Options | View.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the missing, or empty,
folder
and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted later once you have
successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the Message Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the *exact*
same
name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg: If
the
file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the new
folder
and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty, continue on
to
the next step.

First, check if there is a bak file already in the message store. If
there
is, and you removed the dbx file, go ahead and rename it to dbx.

If it isn't already in the message store, open the Recycle bin and
right
click on the bak file for the folder in question and click Restore.
Open the
message store back up and change the file extension from .bak to .dbx.
Close
the message store and open OE. The messages should now be back in the
folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete
the
old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

General precautions for Outlook Express:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your
mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders
are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
until
the compacting is completed.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer
of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems such
as
time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V program will
continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in
background and
leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.

And backup often.

Backup & Resto
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/

This is a great two click program:

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"DimitriR" wrote in message
...
My inbox crashed. After reading several threads, I compacted all
files,
and
the inbox went to the Recycling Bin. I found the problem was the size
of
my
inbox - 2+GB!. How/where can I restore it so that I can edit the
file,
splitting up what I need into smaller files and deleting the rest?
I presume I can't open it without OE? How can I do that without
crashing
OE
all over again?
System: I have OE6 on XP SP3
DimitriR








  #47  
Old March 29th 10, 04:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Zac Thompson[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 151
Default Help! Need to reduce size of .bak file (2GB+!).



"Zac Thompson" wrote in message
...

"Zac Thompson" wrote in message
...

"mmradio" wrote in message
...
Bruce,
I have read all of your responses and they are very helpful. The
problem
that I have is that the inbox.bak file is not in the recycle bin.
everything
else is. I lost 11 months worth of emails from my inbox today when I
compacted. Do you have any advise on why the inbox was not backed up or
where it might be.

Thanks,
MM


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Have you tried restoring the bak file? If you can, and then split it
up,
that would be the easiest way. Otherwise, you will need an extraction
tool.

All e-mail items may be missing when you start Outlook Express 6
Service
Pack 1:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918069

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first locate the
Message Store in Windows Explorer.

In OE: Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the
location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the
folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then Start | Run | Ctrl+V will put the
location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise,
write
the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WinXP, the dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files
in Windows Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders
under
Start | Control Panel | Folder Options Icon | View, or in Windows
Explorer |
Tools | Folder Options | View.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the missing, or empty,
folder
and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted later once you have
successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the Message Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the *exact*
same
name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg: If
the
file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the new
folder
and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty, continue on
to
the next step.

First, check if there is a bak file already in the message store. If
there
is, and you removed the dbx file, go ahead and rename it to dbx.

If it isn't already in the message store, open the Recycle bin and
right
click on the bak file for the folder in question and click Restore.
Open the
message store back up and change the file extension from .bak to .dbx.
Close
the message store and open OE. The messages should now be back in the
folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete
the
old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

General precautions for Outlook Express:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your
mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders
are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
until
the compacting is completed.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer
of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems such
as
time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V program will
continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in
background and
leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.

And backup often.

Backup & Resto
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/

This is a great two click program:

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"DimitriR" wrote in message
...
My inbox crashed. After reading several threads, I compacted all
files,
and
the inbox went to the Recycling Bin. I found the problem was the size
of
my
inbox - 2+GB!. How/where can I restore it so that I can edit the
file,
splitting up what I need into smaller files and deleting the rest?
I presume I can't open it without OE? How can I do that without
crashing
OE
all over again?
System: I have OE6 on XP SP3
DimitriR








  #48  
Old March 31st 10, 05:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
nicositton
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3
Default Help! Need to reduce size of .bak file (2GB+!).


"fhjghjhgg hgfghgghhghgh ghhgj" hfghghghghghgh wrote in message
...

"mmradio" schreef in bericht
...
d sgshg hgh sghg h gshgdhg hff fghg hsghsg h
I have read all of your responses and they are very helpful. The
problem gfgsf gs sghgghgh
that I have is that the inbox.bak file is not in the recycle bin.
everything
else is. I lost 11 months worth of emails from my inbox today when I
compacted. Do you have any advise on why the inbox was not backed up or
where it might be.

Thanks,
MM


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Have you tried restoring the bak file? If you can, and then split it up,
that would be the easiest way. Otherwise, you will need an extraction
tool.

All e-mail items may be missing when you start Outlook Express 6 Service
Pack 1:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918069

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first locate the
Message Store in Windows Explorer.

In OE: Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the
location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then Start | Run | Ctrl+V will put the
location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise,
write
the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WinXP, the dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files
in Windows Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders under
Start | Control Panel | Folder Options Icon | View, or in Windows
Explorer |
Tools | Folder Options | View.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the missing, or empty,
folder
and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted later once you have
successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the Message Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the *exact*
same
name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg: If
the
file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the new
folder
and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty, continue on
to
the next step.

First, check if there is a bak file already in the message store. If
there
is, and you removed the dbx file, go ahead and rename it to dbx.

If it isn't already in the message store, open the Recycle bin and right
click on the bak file for the folder in question and click Restore. Open
the
message store back up and change the file extension from .bak to .dbx.
Close
the message store and open OE. The messages should now be back in the
folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete
the
old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

General precautions for Outlook Express:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your
mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
until
the compacting is completed.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer
of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems such
as
time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V program will
continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in background
and
leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.

And backup often.

Backup & Resto
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/

This is a great two click program:

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"DimitriR" wrote in message
...
My inbox crashed. After reading several threads, I compacted all
files,
and
the inbox went to the Recycling Bin. I found the problem was the size
of
my
inbox - 2+GB!. How/where can I restore it so that I can edit the
file,
splitting up what I need into smaller files and deleting the rest?
I presume I can't open it without OE? How can I do that without
crashing
OE
all over again?
System: I have OE6 on XP SP3
DimitriR






  #49  
Old March 31st 10, 05:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
nicositton
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3
Default Help! Need to reduce size of .bak file (2GB+!).


"fhjghjhgg hgfghgghhghgh ghhgj" hfghghghghghgh wrote in message
...

"mmradio" schreef in bericht
...
d sgshg hgh sghg h gshgdhg hff fghg hsghsg h
I have read all of your responses and they are very helpful. The
problem gfgsf gs sghgghgh
that I have is that the inbox.bak file is not in the recycle bin.
everything
else is. I lost 11 months worth of emails from my inbox today when I
compacted. Do you have any advise on why the inbox was not backed up or
where it might be.

Thanks,
MM


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Have you tried restoring the bak file? If you can, and then split it up,
that would be the easiest way. Otherwise, you will need an extraction
tool.

All e-mail items may be missing when you start Outlook Express 6 Service
Pack 1:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918069

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first locate the
Message Store in Windows Explorer.

In OE: Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the
location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then Start | Run | Ctrl+V will put the
location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise,
write
the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WinXP, the dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files
in Windows Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders under
Start | Control Panel | Folder Options Icon | View, or in Windows
Explorer |
Tools | Folder Options | View.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the missing, or empty,
folder
and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted later once you have
successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the Message Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the *exact*
same
name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg: If
the
file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the new
folder
and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty, continue on
to
the next step.

First, check if there is a bak file already in the message store. If
there
is, and you removed the dbx file, go ahead and rename it to dbx.

If it isn't already in the message store, open the Recycle bin and right
click on the bak file for the folder in question and click Restore. Open
the
message store back up and change the file extension from .bak to .dbx.
Close
the message store and open OE. The messages should now be back in the
folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete
the
old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

General precautions for Outlook Express:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your
mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
until
the compacting is completed.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer
of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems such
as
time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V program will
continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in background
and
leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.

And backup often.

Backup & Resto
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/

This is a great two click program:

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"DimitriR" wrote in message
...
My inbox crashed. After reading several threads, I compacted all
files,
and
the inbox went to the Recycling Bin. I found the problem was the size
of
my
inbox - 2+GB!. How/where can I restore it so that I can edit the
file,
splitting up what I need into smaller files and deleting the rest?
I presume I can't open it without OE? How can I do that without
crashing
OE
all over again?
System: I have OE6 on XP SP3
DimitriR






  #50  
Old April 2nd 10, 02:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
michelle leblanc
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Posts: 2
Default Help! Need to reduce size of .bak file (2GB+!).


"fhjghjhgg hgfghgghhghgh ghhgj" hfghghghghghgh wrote in message
...

"mmradio" schreef in bericht
...
d sgshg hgh sghg h gshgdhg hff fghg hsghsg h
I have read all of your responses and they are very helpful. The
problem gfgsf gs sghgghgh
that I have is that the inbox.bak file is not in the recycle bin.
everything
else is. I lost 11 months worth of emails from my inbox today when I
compacted. Do you have any advise on why the inbox was not backed up or
where it might be.

Thanks,
MM


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Have you tried restoring the bak file? If you can, and then split it up,
that would be the easiest way. Otherwise, you will need an extraction
tool.

All e-mail items may be missing when you start Outlook Express 6 Service
Pack 1:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918069

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first locate the
Message Store in Windows Explorer.

In OE: Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the
location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then Start | Run | Ctrl+V will put the
location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise,
write
the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WinXP, the dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files
in Windows Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders under
Start | Control Panel | Folder Options Icon | View, or in Windows
Explorer |
Tools | Folder Options | View.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the missing, or empty,
folder
and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted later once you have
successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the Message Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the *exact*
same
name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg: If
the
file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the new
folder
and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty, continue on
to
the next step.

First, check if there is a bak file already in the message store. If
there
is, and you removed the dbx file, go ahead and rename it to dbx.

If it isn't already in the message store, open the Recycle bin and right
click on the bak file for the folder in question and click Restore. Open
the
message store back up and change the file extension from .bak to .dbx.
Close
the message store and open OE. The messages should now be back in the
folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete
the
old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

General precautions for Outlook Express:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your
mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
until
the compacting is completed.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer
of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems such
as
time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V program will
continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in background
and
leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.

And backup often.

Backup & Resto
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/

This is a great two click program:

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"DimitriR" wrote in message
...
My inbox crashed. After reading several threads, I compacted all
files,
and
the inbox went to the Recycling Bin. I found the problem was the size
of
my
inbox - 2+GB!. How/where can I restore it so that I can edit the
file,
splitting up what I need into smaller files and deleting the rest?
I presume I can't open it without OE? How can I do that without
crashing
OE
all over again?
System: I have OE6 on XP SP3
DimitriR






 




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