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Old January 21st 06, 03:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Charlie
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Default Encoding for International e-mail correspondance

I have a friend in eastern europe and their english is elementary. To help
them I wanted to send the english e-mail so it can be read in Cyrillic. As
Dr. International mentioned. I went to Outlook Express
....Tools...Options...International settings...and clicked on the Cyrillac
option.

My question, what does this actually do? As I understand, it translates my
english version to russian when the e-mail is sent to europe. Is this correct?

Any help would be appreciated. Charlie
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Old January 21st 06, 04:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear
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Default Encoding for International e-mail correspondance

No, it does not translate English into Cyrillic, Charlie. (Cyrillic is not
a language, but an alphabet [font]...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_alphabet ...and an encoding format.)
What led you to understand that Cyrillic encoding would translate English
into your friend's native language?

OE Help "Read and send international messages".

Can you read and write in your friend's language? If so, see Paul
Gorodyanski's page
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...r/index_en.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org

Charlie wrote:
I have a friend in eastern europe and their english is elementary. To help
them I wanted to send the english e-mail so it can be read in Cyrillic. As
Dr. International mentioned. I went to Outlook Express
...Tools...Options...International settings...and clicked on the Cyrillac
option.

My question, what does this actually do? As I understand, it translates my
english version to russian when the e-mail is sent to europe. Is this
correct?

Any help would be appreciated. Charlie


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Old January 21st 06, 04:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
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Default Encoding for International e-mail correspondance

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr

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"Charlie" wrote in message
...
I have a friend in eastern europe and their english is elementary. To help
them I wanted to send the english e-mail so it can be read in Cyrillic. As
Dr. International mentioned. I went to Outlook Express
...Tools...Options...International settings...and clicked on the Cyrillac
option.

My question, what does this actually do? As I understand, it translates my
english version to russian when the e-mail is sent to europe. Is this

correct?

Any help would be appreciated. Charlie



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Old January 21st 06, 05:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Charlie
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Default Encoding for International e-mail correspondance

Outlook Express: if click on International settings PA Bear you get a list
from arabic to vietnamese to choose. If you click on one the box says:
default setting for outgoing messages. This lead me to believe it translates
your message to whatever is highlighted. Explain further what it does please.
Charlie

"PA Bear" wrote:

No, it does not translate English into Cyrillic, Charlie. (Cyrillic is not
a language, but an alphabet [font]...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_alphabet ...and an encoding format.)
What led you to understand that Cyrillic encoding would translate English
into your friend's native language?

OE Help "Read and send international messages".

Can you read and write in your friend's language? If so, see Paul
Gorodyanski's page
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...r/index_en.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org

Charlie wrote:
I have a friend in eastern europe and their english is elementary. To help
them I wanted to send the english e-mail so it can be read in Cyrillic. As
Dr. International mentioned. I went to Outlook Express
...Tools...Options...International settings...and clicked on the Cyrillac
option.

My question, what does this actually do? As I understand, it translates my
english version to russian when the e-mail is sent to europe. Is this
correct?

Any help would be appreciated. Charlie



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Old January 21st 06, 06:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear
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Default Encoding for International e-mail correspondance

Well, as regards your original question, it'd be easier to explain what
International encoding doesn't do: It doesn't translate messages. The
recipient will receive what you send but how he sees it when he goes to read
it depends on both the encoding you used and your International send
encoding.

Encoding is a rather complex and somewhat arcane topic, as is International
encoding settings for outgoing mail, neither of which are a particular
specialty of mine. See this page of Paul Gorodyanksi's regarding Cyrillic
fonts and encoding in Windows, for example:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...or/fonts_e.htm.

You might experiment with the different International encoding choices:
Select one, compose a brief message, copy the entire message to your
clipboard, then send yourself the email and take a look at how the message
appears when you open it. Then select another choice, paste the same
message into another new email and repeat.
--
~PA Bear

Charlie wrote:
Outlook Express: if click on International settings PA Bear you get a list
from arabic to vietnamese to choose. If you click on one the box says:
default setting for outgoing messages. This lead me to believe it
translates your message to whatever is highlighted. Explain further what
it does please. Charlie

"PA Bear" wrote:

No, it does not translate English into Cyrillic, Charlie. (Cyrillic is
not a language, but an alphabet [font]...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_alphabet ...and an encoding
format.) What led you to understand that Cyrillic encoding would
translate English into your friend's native language?

OE Help "Read and send international messages".

Can you read and write in your friend's language? If so, see Paul
Gorodyanski's page
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...r/index_en.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org

Charlie wrote:
I have a friend in eastern europe and their english is elementary. To
help them I wanted to send the english e-mail so it can be read in
Cyrillic. As Dr. International mentioned. I went to Outlook Express
...Tools...Options...International settings...and clicked on the
Cyrillac option.

My question, what does this actually do? As I understand, it
translates my english version to russian when the e-mail is sent to
europe. Is this correct?

Any help would be appreciated. Charlie


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Old January 21st 06, 07:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Charlie
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Default Encoding for International e-mail correspondance

PA Bear
I understand that Cyrillac is an alphabet. I sent a few e-mails to myself
with Cyrillac option (K018-U) selected which I assume is the Ukraine version.
The e-mails looks just like any english e-mail..no changes whatsoever.

Thanks for the feedback even though the topic reamins very arcane! I will
take a look at the compuserve homepage you linked. Why can't an e-mail
software translate emails? Is this too difficult for a software program?
Thanks, Charlie


"AlmostBob" wrote:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr

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Catalog of removal tools (1)
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Catalog of removal tools (2)
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/n...aspx?CID=40387
Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/
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"Charlie" wrote in message
...
I have a friend in eastern europe and their english is elementary. To help
them I wanted to send the english e-mail so it can be read in Cyrillic. As
Dr. International mentioned. I went to Outlook Express
...Tools...Options...International settings...and clicked on the Cyrillac
option.

My question, what does this actually do? As I understand, it translates my
english version to russian when the e-mail is sent to europe. Is this

correct?

Any help would be appreciated. Charlie




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Old January 21st 06, 09:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
AlmostBob
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Default Encoding for International e-mail correspondance

email and translation are two completely different things
why cant my doctor fix the car
why cant my word processor provide suppport to NASAs mission to mars
why doesnt my spreadsheet do anything
I have 'Grand theft auto', and it doesnt do translations either

The snailmail post office doesn't provide translated of mail either
Ya get what Ya send
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Catalog of removal tools (1)
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Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/
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"Charlie" wrote in message
...
PA Bear
I understand that Cyrillac is an alphabet. I sent a few e-mails to myself
with Cyrillac option (K018-U) selected which I assume is the Ukraine

version.
The e-mails looks just like any english e-mail..no changes whatsoever.

Thanks for the feedback even though the topic reamins very arcane! I will
take a look at the compuserve homepage you linked. Why can't an e-mail
software translate emails? Is this too difficult for a software program?
Thanks, Charlie


"AlmostBob" wrote:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr

--
-
Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de
spybot http://security.kolla.de
AVG free antivirus http://www.grisoft.com
Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx
Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.activescan.com
Panda online AntiSpyware Scan
http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/spyware/test/
Catalog of removal tools (1)
http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
Catalog of removal tools (2)
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/n...aspx?CID=40387
Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/
Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages

before
use
Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters
_
"Charlie" wrote in message
...
I have a friend in eastern europe and their english is elementary. To

help
them I wanted to send the english e-mail so it can be read in

Cyrillic. As
Dr. International mentioned. I went to Outlook Express
...Tools...Options...International settings...and clicked on the

Cyrillac
option.

My question, what does this actually do? As I understand, it

translates my
english version to russian when the e-mail is sent to europe. Is this

correct?

Any help would be appreciated. Charlie






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Old January 21st 06, 10:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear
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Default Encoding for International e-mail correspondance

Why can't an e-mail software translate emails?

There may be an Mail Client out there that can do so. I can guarantee you
that it won't be free.

Is this too difficult for a software program?


A literal translation (cf. http://babelfish.altavista.com/), no, not really.
A translation that makes sense and is grammatically, syntactically and
semantically correct? Yes, at least at this point. Maybe someone will come
with one in your lifetime (probably the same person who comes up with those
jet-packs we can strap on our backs and fly anywhere we want).
--
~PA Bear

Charlie wrote:
PA Bear
I understand that Cyrillac is an alphabet. I sent a few e-mails to myself
with Cyrillac option (K018-U) selected which I assume is the Ukraine
version. The e-mails looks just like any english e-mail..no changes
whatsoever.

Thanks for the feedback even though the topic reamins very arcane! I will
take a look at the compuserve homepage you linked. Why can't an e-mail
software translate emails? Is this too difficult for a software program?
Thanks, Charlie


"AlmostBob" wrote:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr

--
-
Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de
spybot http://security.kolla.de
AVG free antivirus http://www.grisoft.com
Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx
Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.activescan.com
Panda online AntiSpyware Scan
http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/spyware/test/
Catalog of removal tools (1)
http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
Catalog of removal tools (2)
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/n...aspx?CID=40387
Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/
Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages
before use
Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters
_
"Charlie" wrote in message
...
I have a friend in eastern europe and their english is elementary. To
help them I wanted to send the english e-mail so it can be read in
Cyrillic. As Dr. International mentioned. I went to Outlook Express
...Tools...Options...International settings...and clicked on the
Cyrillac option.

My question, what does this actually do? As I understand, it
translates my english version to russian when the e-mail is sent to
europe. Is this correct?

Any help would be appreciated. Charlie


 




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