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Old June 13th 07, 10:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Daniel Kaplan
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Default Opening first email takes a while

So after starting up OE (ver 6.00), opening my first email takes quite a
while. More than 30 seconds I would say. Whether it's a new message or an
existing one makes no difference. After that, they all open with relative
quickness.

Exiting and relaunching OE, without restarting the computer brings back the
same problem.

Anyone have any clue as to what could be causing this?

Thanks


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Old June 13th 07, 03:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
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Default Opening first email takes a while

"Daniel Kaplan" wrote in message
...
So after starting up OE (ver 6.00), opening my first email takes quite a
while. More than 30 seconds I would say. Whether it's a new message or
an existing one makes no difference. After that, they all open with
relative quickness.

Exiting and relaunching OE, without restarting the computer brings back
the same problem.



Sounds like you are keeping messages in the Inbox. Bad idea.
Make other folders in OE and then move all of the messages out of the Inbox.
After doing this click File | Folder | Compact All and leave the computer
alone until it finishes.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.

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Old June 13th 07, 08:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Michael Santovec
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Default Opening first email takes a while

In addition to Frank's reply, if you anti-virus is set to scan e-mail,
disable that function.

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Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Daniel Kaplan" wrote in message
...
So after starting up OE (ver 6.00), opening my first email takes quite
a while. More than 30 seconds I would say. Whether it's a new
message or an existing one makes no difference. After that, they all
open with relative quickness.

Exiting and relaunching OE, without restarting the computer brings
back the same problem.

Anyone have any clue as to what could be causing this?

Thanks



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Old June 14th 07, 02:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Daniel Kaplan
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Default Opening first email takes a while

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
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In addition to Frank's reply, if you anti-virus is set to scan e-mail,
disable that function.


But it doesn't matter which folder I open the email from. Even clicking New
Message has this delay, and as I said it only happens for the first one.
After that everything's honky dory.

Until I restart OE.

Sigh



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Old June 14th 07, 02:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Bruce Hagen
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Default Opening first email takes a while

If you did what was already suggested by Frank & Mike, I would close OE,
delete Folders.dbx, reboot and try.

Note that the only side-effect of deleting Folders.dbx is that if you have
subfolders, they will be out in the open, but can be easily dragged back to
their original position.

Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then Start | Run | Ctrl+V will put the
location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise, write
the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WinXP, Win2K & Win2K3, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Windows Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under Start | Control Panel | Folder Options
Icon | View, or in Windows Explorer | Tools | Folder Options | View.

General precautions for Outlook Express:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move your
mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything until
the compacting is completed.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant layer
of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems such as
time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V program will
continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in background and
leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.

And backup often.

Backup & Resto
http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

This is a great two click program:

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"Daniel Kaplan" wrote in message
...
So after starting up OE (ver 6.00), opening my first email takes quite a
while. More than 30 seconds I would say. Whether it's a new message or
an existing one makes no difference. After that, they all open with
relative quickness.

Exiting and relaunching OE, without restarting the computer brings back
the same problem.

Anyone have any clue as to what could be causing this?

Thanks


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Old June 14th 07, 03:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear
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Default Opening first email takes a while

Disable "Send/Receive on start-up" and "Open to my inbox".

General OE Caveats:

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and frequently
perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
automatically compacting your message store.

- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


Daniel Kaplan wrote:
So after starting up OE (ver 6.00), opening my first email takes quite a
while. More than 30 seconds I would say. Whether it's a new message or
an
existing one makes no difference. After that, they all open with relative
quickness.

Exiting and relaunching OE, without restarting the computer brings back
the
same problem.

Anyone have any clue as to what could be causing this?

Thanks


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Old June 14th 07, 02:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Daniel Kaplan
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Default Opening first email takes a while

"PA Bear" wrote in message
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- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.


Why do people keep saying this? Norton has caught enough viruses in
incoming Spam?


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Old June 14th 07, 02:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Bruce Hagen
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Default Opening first email takes a while

It is a redundant layer of protection that causes many problems with OE. The
other components of your AV are sufficient enough to catch viruses. It was
first marketed by Norton in an attempt to boost sales by making people think
they would be safer, and even Norton says it is not necessary.

Turning off e-mail scanning is safe. See:

Viral Irony: The Most Common Cause of Corruption.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...ion.mspx#EOAAC

And this is from Symantec, but applies to all anti-virus programs.

From:
http://snipurl.com/bmf6

Is my computer still protected against viruses if I disable Email Scanning?

Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses that
are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To
make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
the most recent virus definitions.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"Daniel Kaplan" wrote in message
...
"PA Bear" wrote in message
...

- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause
such corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.


Why do people keep saying this? Norton has caught enough viruses in
incoming Spam?


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Old June 14th 07, 03:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Daniel Kaplan
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Default Opening first email takes a while

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...

It is a redundant layer of protection that causes many problems with OE.
The other components of your AV are sufficient enough to catch viruses. It
was first marketed by Norton in an attempt to boost sales by making people
think they would be safer, and even Norton says it is not necessary.

good point. you know why i always keep it on? this is silly, but...NAV's
symbol in the system tray has a Check mark in green if all is ok, and an
Exclimation point if something needs fixing.

turning off email scanning makes it go to exclamation mark, even though i
chose it. so now i will never know if something is wrong because of that.
but what choice do i have?

thanks


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Old June 14th 07, 10:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear
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Default Opening first email takes a while

Daniel Kaplan wrote:
"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause
such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.


Why do people keep saying this? Norton has caught enough viruses in
incoming Spam?


Did you /read/ my entire reply?...

QP
Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides no
additional protection and even Symantec says it's not necessary:

paste
Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses that
are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To
make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
the most recent virus definitions.
/paste
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...02111812533106
/QP

...Norton has caught enough viruses in incoming Spam


You'd only be at risk if you were foolish enough to open the spam messages
or their attachments. If you did so, NAV's realtime protection would have
alerted you that you were doing something risky.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org

 




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