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Old August 9th 06, 08:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Norman Litell
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Default Rules Processing of Group Addresses

I receive email mail from several organizations which use in the address
field a Group Name instead of the names of individual addressees. Looking
at the message TO: field, all one sees is a string such as:

To: Friends of The Marsh:;

I have one rule in my system which says:

Apply this rule after the message arrives

Where the To line does not contain 'A' or 'B' or 'C' or 'D'

Delete it

and Stop processing more rules

(in this case, A, B, C and D are the several valid Earthlink email addresses
which I use).

How is it that a Group Name such as "Friends of the Marsh" gets past this
filter and is not deleted?


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Old August 9th 06, 08:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Bruce Hagen
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Default Rules Processing of Group Addresses

Friends of The Marsh is the display name and not the address which is what
the rule applies to. Check the message source, Ctrl+F3, to see the actual
address, if it is there.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Norman Litell" wrote in message
nk.net...
I receive email mail from several organizations which use in the address
field a Group Name instead of the names of individual addressees. Looking
at the message TO: field, all one sees is a string such as:

To: Friends of The Marsh:;

I have one rule in my system which says:

Apply this rule after the message arrives

Where the To line does not contain 'A' or 'B' or 'C' or 'D'

Delete it

and Stop processing more rules

(in this case, A, B, C and D are the several valid Earthlink email
addresses
which I use).

How is it that a Group Name such as "Friends of the Marsh" gets past this
filter and is not deleted?



  #3  
Old August 9th 06, 08:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
antioch
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Default Rules Processing of Group Addresses


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Friends of The Marsh is the display name and not the address which is what
the rule applies to. Check the message source, Ctrl+F3, to see the actual
address, if it is there.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Norman Litell" wrote in message
nk.net...
I receive email mail from several organizations which use in the address
field a Group Name instead of the names of individual addressees.
Looking
at the message TO: field, all one sees is a string such as:

To: Friends of The Marsh:;


Clipped

Is that your genuine email address as it appears above???



  #4  
Old August 9th 06, 11:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear
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Default Rules Processing of Group Addresses

Message Rules Tips
http://www.insideoe.com/tips/rules.htm

Why doesn't my rule work?
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org

Norman Litell wrote:
I receive email mail from several organizations which use in the address
field a Group Name instead of the names of individual addressees. Looking
at the message TO: field, all one sees is a string such as:

To: Friends of The Marsh:;

I have one rule in my system which says:

Apply this rule after the message arrives

Where the To line does not contain 'A' or 'B' or 'C' or 'D'

Delete it

and Stop processing more rules

(in this case, A, B, C and D are the several valid Earthlink email
addresses which I use).

How is it that a Group Name such as "Friends of the Marsh" gets past this
filter and is not deleted?


  #5  
Old August 10th 06, 03:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Norman Litell
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Default Rules Processing of Group Addresses

Bruce,
I had already tried looking at the actual message source -- in fact, what I
put in my post was the actual "To" line clipped and pasted from the message
source display.

Norman

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Friends of The Marsh is the display name and not the address which is what
the rule applies to. Check the message source, Ctrl+F3, to see the actual
address, if it is there.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Norman Litell" wrote in message
nk.net...
I receive email mail from several organizations which use in the address
field a Group Name instead of the names of individual addressees.

Looking
at the message TO: field, all one sees is a string such as:

To: Friends of The Marsh:;

I have one rule in my system which says:

Apply this rule after the message arrives

Where the To line does not contain 'A' or 'B' or 'C' or 'D'

Delete it

and Stop processing more rules

(in this case, A, B, C and D are the several valid Earthlink email
addresses
which I use).

How is it that a Group Name such as "Friends of the Marsh" gets past

this
filter and is not deleted?





  #6  
Old August 10th 06, 03:12 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Norman Litell
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Default Rules Processing of Group Addresses

Yes it is my actual address, and although I have seen admonitions on
"munging" the address and tried several times to do so, I haven't yet
succeeded in doing so. The times I have tried to do so by going into the
Account Properties screens and changing the address, OE6 gave me an error
message and wouldn't send the message, saying that it wasn't in a valid
format or some such thing.

If you have specific instructions on how to insert a munged address into the
system for these message posts, I would certainly appreciate hearing it. I
am running W2KPro and IE6.0 (of course, with all latest updates loaded).

Norman


"antioch" wrote in message
...

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Friends of The Marsh is the display name and not the address which is

what
the rule applies to. Check the message source, Ctrl+F3, to see the

actual
address, if it is there.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Norman Litell" wrote in message
nk.net...
I receive email mail from several organizations which use in the address
field a Group Name instead of the names of individual addressees.
Looking
at the message TO: field, all one sees is a string such as:

To: Friends of The Marsh:;


Clipped

Is that your genuine email address as it appears above???





  #7  
Old August 10th 06, 03:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Bruce Hagen
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Default Rules Processing of Group Addresses

There is no such valid address as Friends of The Marsh. The sender is likely
hiding the true address making rules a moot point. You cannot make a rule
against a display name.

Ex: If Norman Litell was in the From field, rules will not block that. But I
can make a rule against

If filtering in your mail is not feasible, as suggested in replies to your
other two posts of the same problem, then get a spam program.

Also note that if you are using your real address here, you are just adding
to the problem. Spammers harvest addresses and a newsgroup is a favorite of
theirs.

Change it to something like
lid
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Norman Litell" wrote in message
ink.net...
Bruce,
I had already tried looking at the actual message source -- in fact, what
I
put in my post was the actual "To" line clipped and pasted from the
message
source display.

Norman

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Friends of The Marsh is the display name and not the address which is
what
the rule applies to. Check the message source, Ctrl+F3, to see the actual
address, if it is there.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Norman Litell" wrote in message
nk.net...
I receive email mail from several organizations which use in the address
field a Group Name instead of the names of individual addressees.

Looking
at the message TO: field, all one sees is a string such as:

To: Friends of The Marsh:;

I have one rule in my system which says:

Apply this rule after the message arrives

Where the To line does not contain 'A' or 'B' or 'C' or 'D'

Delete it

and Stop processing more rules

(in this case, A, B, C and D are the several valid Earthlink email
addresses
which I use).

How is it that a Group Name such as "Friends of the Marsh" gets past

this
filter and is not deleted?






  #8  
Old August 10th 06, 11:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
antioch
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Posts: 73
Default Rules Processing of Group Addresses

Snipped/clipped/contextualized for clarity

"Norman Litell" wrote in message
ink.net...
Yes it is my actual address, and although I have seen admonitions on
"munging" the address


I have yet to read anyone being admonished for munging - quite the opposite.

and tried several times to do so, I haven't yet
succeeded in doing so. The times I have tried to do so by going into
the Account Properties


Have another go

If you have specific instructions on how to insert a munged address into
the......


This is what I do/shown in these groups how - and I change it from time to
time - don't have to - it humours me to do it.

In OE - click on Tools/Accounts/News/Properties - should get a window called
msnews.microsoft.com Properties.
In the section marked 'User Info', type what you fancy in the E-mail
Address - perhaps 'litellnospam@nospamearthlink'

Hope it works :-)
Antioch


Norman



  #9  
Old August 10th 06, 08:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Michael Santovec
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Default Rules Processing of Group Addresses

Are you saying that is the Only rule that you have?

If you have more than one message rule, is it your first rule?

If you have any rules in front of that one with a Stop Processing more
rules and the message matches it, then your rule will never get applied.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Norman Litell" wrote in message
nk.net...
I receive email mail from several organizations which use in the
address
field a Group Name instead of the names of individual addressees.
Looking
at the message TO: field, all one sees is a string such as:

To: Friends of The Marsh:;

I have one rule in my system which says:

Apply this rule after the message arrives

Where the To line does not contain 'A' or 'B' or 'C' or 'D'

Delete it

and Stop processing more rules

(in this case, A, B, C and D are the several valid Earthlink email
addresses
which I use).

How is it that a Group Name such as "Friends of the Marsh" gets past
this
filter and is not deleted?




  #10  
Old August 10th 06, 11:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Norman Litell
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Default Rules Processing of Group Addresses

Mike,
this is not the only rule I have, and it is not the first rule, it is the
second.

You may be correct that the rule sequence is the problem. The first rule
allows a blank TO: field by stopping processing if there is not an "@" in
the TO: field -- which is apparently the case here since all I can see is
the Display Name. See also Bruce Hagen's earlier comments (8/9/06 --
7:19pm) about rules not being able to filter display names.

I had thought that, when I saw the Group Name in the TO: field, the actual
Group Members were somehow also there in some hidden format (e.g., as if the
Group Name served as a hyperlink to the list of Group Members) that was
accessible to the rules processing, and therefore the first filter for blank
addresses would not catch this situation. I guess not...

Norman

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
Are you saying that is the Only rule that you have?

If you have more than one message rule, is it your first rule?

If you have any rules in front of that one with a Stop Processing more
rules and the message matches it, then your rule will never get applied.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Norman Litell" wrote in message
nk.net...
I receive email mail from several organizations which use in the
address
field a Group Name instead of the names of individual addressees.
Looking
at the message TO: field, all one sees is a string such as:

To: Friends of The Marsh:;

I have one rule in my system which says:

Apply this rule after the message arrives

Where the To line does not contain 'A' or 'B' or 'C' or 'D'

Delete it

and Stop processing more rules

(in this case, A, B, C and D are the several valid Earthlink email
addresses
which I use).

How is it that a Group Name such as "Friends of the Marsh" gets past
this
filter and is not deleted?







 




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