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Old August 4th 06, 01:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Norman Litell
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Posts: 13
Default Failure of Rules Processing

I am running OE6 under Win2000Pro, with all of the latest updates installed.

I get lots of spam emails sent to a small set of TO: or CC: addresses at
earthlink, so I have created a series of rules attempting to control the
junk, but the main rule doesn't seem to be working. Here it is, in a clip
from the actual rule display in OE6:

Apply this rule after the message arrives
Where the To or CC line contains ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or '
or ' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or '

Delete it

and Stop processing more rules

Individual messages are always downloaded and then deleted from the
earthlink server, so I simply want to delete them from my own OE6 client as
soon as they are downloaded when they contain any of these junk email
addresses.

Is there perhaps a limit to the number of "or" entries in a rule that
keeps the rule from executing. I suppose I could have fewer entries in each
of several rules, but what is the actual limit if there is one.

Norman G. Litell


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  #2  
Old August 4th 06, 02:05 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Bruce Hagen
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Posts: 10,210
Default Failure of Rules Processing

You can have 4096 entries in Message Rules and Blocked Senders combined, so
that is not your problem.

The way you have it set up:

Delete It & Stop processing more rules, does not delete it from the server,
but sends the mail to your Deleted Items folder.

Review these links and remember that rules have to be in a logical order.

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Norman Litell" wrote in message
ink.net...
I am running OE6 under Win2000Pro, with all of the latest updates
installed.

I get lots of spam emails sent to a small set of TO: or CC: addresses at
earthlink, so I have created a series of rules attempting to control the
junk, but the main rule doesn't seem to be working. Here it is, in a clip
from the actual rule display in OE6:

Apply this rule after the message arrives
Where the To or CC line contains ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
'
or ' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or '

Delete it

and Stop processing more rules

Individual messages are always downloaded and then deleted from the
earthlink server, so I simply want to delete them from my own OE6 client
as
soon as they are downloaded when they contain any of these junk email
addresses.

Is there perhaps a limit to the number of "or" entries in a rule that
keeps the rule from executing. I suppose I could have fewer entries in
each
of several rules, but what is the actual limit if there is one.

Norman G. Litell



  #3  
Old August 4th 06, 04:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear
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Default Failure of Rules Processing

Tip: NEVER post or use real email addresses in public newsgroups or forums.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Security, Shell/User)

Norman Litell wrote:

I am running OE6 under Win2000Pro, with all of the latest updates installed.

I get lots of spam emails sent to a small set of TO: or CC: addresses at
earthlink, so I have created a series of rules attempting to control the
junk, but the main rule doesn't seem to be working. Here it is, in a clip
from the actual rule display in OE6:


snip
  #4  
Old August 4th 06, 06:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Norman Litell
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Posts: 13
Default Failure of Rules Processing

My problem is that this rule does NOT send the items to my Deleted Items
folder -- it just leaves them in my InBox.


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
You can have 4096 entries in Message Rules and Blocked Senders combined,

so
that is not your problem.

The way you have it set up:

Delete It & Stop processing more rules, does not delete it from the

server,
but sends the mail to your Deleted Items folder.

Review these links and remember that rules have to be in a logical order.

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Norman Litell" wrote in message
ink.net...
I am running OE6 under Win2000Pro, with all of the latest updates
installed.

I get lots of spam emails sent to a small set of TO: or CC: addresses at
earthlink, so I have created a series of rules attempting to control the
junk, but the main rule doesn't seem to be working. Here it is, in a

clip
from the actual rule display in OE6:

Apply this rule after the message arrives
Where the To or CC line contains ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
'
or ' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or '

Delete it

and Stop processing more rules

Individual messages are always downloaded and then deleted from the
earthlink server, so I simply want to delete them from my own OE6 client
as
soon as they are downloaded when they contain any of these junk email
addresses.

Is there perhaps a limit to the number of "or" entries in a rule that
keeps the rule from executing. I suppose I could have fewer entries in
each
of several rules, but what is the actual limit if there is one.

Norman G. Litell





  #5  
Old August 4th 06, 06:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Bruce Hagen
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Posts: 10,210
Default Failure of Rules Processing

I am not sure why it isn't working. Have you tried moving the rule to the
top of the list of rules? Do that and test it by adding your address to the
rule. Send yourself a message and see what happens.

If it goes to the Deleted Items folder, than that was it. Remove your
address from the rule.

If it doesn't solve it, do other rules work OK? The Rules key in the
registry can often become corrupt. This would involve rebuilding all your
rules from scratch so you would only want to do that as a last resort.

Another rule you could try is to block all messages from Earthlink except
your own, and anyone else in your Address Book using Earthlink.

You need two message rules and the first one must be above the second. They
should be the first rules after all your Delete it from server rules.

Rule 1:

Box 1: Where the from line contains people
Box 2: Stop processing more rules
Box 3: Click on Contains people and Add the addresses you want to receive
one-at-a time.

Rule 2: (right below rule 1).

Where the from line contains people
Delete it and Stop processing more rules (or Delete it from the server)
Click on Contains People and Add the domain @earthlink.net
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Norman Litell" wrote in message
ink.net...
My problem is that this rule does NOT send the items to my Deleted Items
folder -- it just leaves them in my InBox.


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
You can have 4096 entries in Message Rules and Blocked Senders combined,

so
that is not your problem.

The way you have it set up:

Delete It & Stop processing more rules, does not delete it from the

server,
but sends the mail to your Deleted Items folder.

Review these links and remember that rules have to be in a logical order.

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Norman Litell" wrote in message
ink.net...
I am running OE6 under Win2000Pro, with all of the latest updates
installed.

I get lots of spam emails sent to a small set of TO: or CC: addresses
at
earthlink, so I have created a series of rules attempting to control
the
junk, but the main rule doesn't seem to be working. Here it is, in a

clip
from the actual rule display in OE6:

Apply this rule after the message arrives
Where the To or CC line contains ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
'
or ' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or '

Delete it

and Stop processing more rules

Individual messages are always downloaded and then deleted from the
earthlink server, so I simply want to delete them from my own OE6
client
as
soon as they are downloaded when they contain any of these junk email
addresses.

Is there perhaps a limit to the number of "or" entries in a rule that
keeps the rule from executing. I suppose I could have fewer entries in
each
of several rules, but what is the actual limit if there is one.

Norman G. Litell






  #6  
Old August 4th 06, 10:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Norman Litell
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 13
Default Failure of Rules Processing

Interesting point -- however, not being a spammer or fraudster, I don't know
how to disguise my real email address when using OE6 to read and post to
these newsgroups. Can you give us a hint?


"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Tip: NEVER post or use real email addresses in public newsgroups or

forums.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Security, Shell/User)

Norman Litell wrote:
I am running OE6 under Win2000Pro, with all of the latest updates

installed.

I get lots of spam emails sent to a small set of TO: or CC: addresses at
earthlink, so I have created a series of rules attempting to control the
junk, but the main rule doesn't seem to be working. Here it is, in a

clip
from the actual rule display in OE6:


snip



  #7  
Old August 4th 06, 10:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Tom Willett
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Posts: 254
Default Failure of Rules Processing

Google for: munge email address

"Norman Litell" wrote in message
ink.net...
Interesting point -- however, not being a spammer or fraudster, I don't
know
how to disguise my real email address when using OE6 to read and post to
these newsgroups. Can you give us a hint?


"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Tip: NEVER post or use real email addresses in public newsgroups or

forums.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Security, Shell/User)

Norman Litell wrote:
I am running OE6 under Win2000Pro, with all of the latest updates

installed.

I get lots of spam emails sent to a small set of TO: or CC: addresses
at
earthlink, so I have created a series of rules attempting to control
the
junk, but the main rule doesn't seem to be working. Here it is, in a

clip
from the actual rule display in OE6:


snip





  #8  
Old August 4th 06, 10:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Norman Litell
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 13
Default Failure of Rules Processing

Still trying several things you suggested in your most recent reply (e.g.,
moving the problem rule to the top of the list), and not working yet. Some
clarifications:

I am not using Rules to delete email from the server. Instead, under
Tools Accounts Mail Properties Advanced
I have unchecked the box which says "Leave mail on server" This is the
way it was originally set up and has always worked.

Not clear what you mean by 4096 "entries" available; what is an "entry"?
For example, does the one rule I quoted which has over 50 address in the
"or" list constitute one entry or 50+ entries?



"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
You can have 4096 entries in Message Rules and Blocked Senders combined,

so
that is not your problem.

The way you have it set up:

Delete It & Stop processing more rules, does not delete it from the

server,
but sends the mail to your Deleted Items folder.

Review these links and remember that rules have to be in a logical order.

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Norman Litell" wrote in message
ink.net...
I am running OE6 under Win2000Pro, with all of the latest updates
installed.

I get lots of spam emails sent to a small set of TO: or CC: addresses at
earthlink, so I have created a series of rules attempting to control the
junk, but the main rule doesn't seem to be working. Here it is, in a

clip
from the actual rule display in OE6:

Apply this rule after the message arrives
Where the To or CC line contains ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
'
or ' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or '

Delete it

and Stop processing more rules

Individual messages are always downloaded and then deleted from the
earthlink server, so I simply want to delete them from my own OE6 client
as
soon as they are downloaded when they contain any of these junk email
addresses.

Is there perhaps a limit to the number of "or" entries in a rule that
keeps the rule from executing. I suppose I could have fewer entries in
each
of several rules, but what is the actual limit if there is one.

Norman G. Litell





  #9  
Old August 5th 06, 01:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Bruce Hagen
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 10,210
Default Failure of Rules Processing

Do you have more than one computer? Are you using more than one identity? I
don't know what Leaving a copy of messages on the server would benefit you.

If you have 5 message rules with 100 addresses, that is 500 entries. 4096 -
500 = 3596 available.

Did you try the Domain rule with exceptions?

I have no other answer as to why your rules aren't working except to delete
the Rule Key in the registry and start over, provided you have read this
first:

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules

If you want to try a clean registry key for rules, then:

With OE closed, go to Start | Run and type in:

regedit

and navigate to this key:

|--HKEY_CURRENT_USER
|-----Identities
|--------{GUID}
|-----------Software
|--------------Microsoft
|-----------------Outlook Express
|--------------------5.0

where GUID is the Global Unique IDentifier for your Identity.

Under that key, you will find the following sub-keys, among others:

|-----------------------Block Senders
|-----------------------Rules
|-----------------------Signatures

Select the Rules Key and delete it. This will remove *all* the rules. Reboot
and rebuild your rules.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Norman Litell" wrote in message
ink.net...
Still trying several things you suggested in your most recent reply (e.g.,
moving the problem rule to the top of the list), and not working yet.
Some
clarifications:

I am not using Rules to delete email from the server. Instead, under
Tools Accounts Mail Properties Advanced
I have unchecked the box which says "Leave mail on server" This is
the
way it was originally set up and has always worked.

Not clear what you mean by 4096 "entries" available; what is an "entry"?
For example, does the one rule I quoted which has over 50 address in the
"or" list constitute one entry or 50+ entries?



"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
You can have 4096 entries in Message Rules and Blocked Senders combined,

so
that is not your problem.

The way you have it set up:

Delete It & Stop processing more rules, does not delete it from the

server,
but sends the mail to your Deleted Items folder.

Review these links and remember that rules have to be in a logical order.

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Norman Litell" wrote in message
ink.net...
I am running OE6 under Win2000Pro, with all of the latest updates
installed.

I get lots of spam emails sent to a small set of TO: or CC: addresses
at
earthlink, so I have created a series of rules attempting to control
the
junk, but the main rule doesn't seem to be working. Here it is, in a

clip
from the actual rule display in OE6:

Apply this rule after the message arrives
Where the To or CC line contains ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
'
or ' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or ' or
' or '

Delete it

and Stop processing more rules

Individual messages are always downloaded and then deleted from the
earthlink server, so I simply want to delete them from my own OE6
client
as
soon as they are downloaded when they contain any of these junk email
addresses.

Is there perhaps a limit to the number of "or" entries in a rule that
keeps the rule from executing. I suppose I could have fewer entries in
each
of several rules, but what is the actual limit if there is one.

Norman G. Litell






  #10  
Old August 5th 06, 09:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
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Posts: 1,196
Default Failure of Rules Processing

"Norman Litell" wrote in message
ink.net...
I am running OE6 under Win2000Pro, with all of the latest updates
installed.

I get lots of spam emails sent to a small set of TO: or CC: addresses at
earthlink, so I have created a series of rules attempting to control the
junk, but the main rule doesn't seem to be working. Here it is, in a clip
from the actual rule display in OE6:

Apply this rule after the message arrives
Where the To or CC line contains


SNIP


Delete it

and Stop processing more rules

Individual messages are always downloaded and then deleted from the
earthlink server, so I simply want to delete them from my own OE6 client
as
soon as they are downloaded when they contain any of these junk email
addresses.

Is there perhaps a limit to the number of "or" entries in a rule that
keeps the rule from executing. I suppose I could have fewer entries in
each
of several rules, but what is the actual limit if there is one.

Norman G. Litell



Move the rule to the top of the list and add the action to Stop processing
more rules.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Please reply in newsgroup. Do NOT send email.


 




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