"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
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Can't wait until peoples' fills up because of
their 2 gig dbx files being repeatedly dumped there and they never empty
the
bin. VBG


My limited experience (1 day) with it has been that the newer compact
overwrites the older, existing *.bak files in the Recycle Bin, so it should
not be much of a problem other than the initial surprise at seeing them the
first time after a compacting operation.

It's the restore process I'm not sure about. I would have liked to have
seen an option to recover/copy from the Recycle Bin to a new folder, then an
attempt at import/extract as needed by the user, rather than a wholesale
backup and overwrite of everything in the store folder. Any glitch during
that though, and DBXpress will be the only tool that might work. All is not
lost yet, Steve. I see many more sales into the far future. g But I
guess that would have involved the Shell Team and they are not the most
responsive to requests. damn them
--
Jim

Lucky guess.

They did the compaction changes also. www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2 Update

steve

"Ottmar Freudenberger" wrote in message
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"Ottmar Freudenberger" schrieb:
"Steve Cochran" schrieb:

More of the usual from MS. I think they released the KB before the
patch.

Which patch?

I see what you ment now, Steve ;-)

Bye,
Freudi

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
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"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
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Can't wait until peoples' fills up because of
their 2 gig dbx files being repeatedly dumped there and they never
empty
the
bin. VBG


My limited experience (1 day) with it has been that the newer compact
overwrites the older, existing *.bak files in the Recycle Bin, so it
should not be much of a problem other than the initial surprise at seeing
them the first time after a compacting operation.


I compacted manually twice and got redundant copies of each file in the
Recycle bin. I'm waiting for the Server patch before doing much more
testing.

It's the restore process I'm not sure about. I would have liked to have
seen an option to recover/copy from the Recycle Bin to a new folder, then
an attempt at import/extract as needed by the user, rather than a
wholesale backup and overwrite of everything in the store folder. Any
glitch during that though, and DBXpress will be the only tool that might
work.

The most often seen scenario by me anyway is that part or all of a folder
(e.g. sent items) gets trashed. So the restore method would be as follows:

1. First move the sent items.bak file out of the recycle bin (you can't
copy it out of there) to the desktop or another directory.
2. Rename it to sent items0.dbx from sent items.bak.
3. Create in OE a sent items0 folder and access it once, so that OE actually
creates the file.
4. Close OE. Then copy the sent items0.dbx file that was in the recycle bin
back to the OE folder (Tools Options | Maintenance | Store Folder is the
location and the dbx files are hidden), overwriting the sent items0.dbx file
that was created there.
5. Open OE and go to the Sent Items0 folder and the lost messages should
all be there.
6. After that move any messages out of the original sent items folder that
was the problem folder and then close OE and delete the sent items.dbx file
(not the new one). OE will then create a new sent items folder and then
things should be back to "normal".

#0 and #7 there should be to backup the message store.

If multiple folders got corrupted, then would could do the following:

1. Move all the bak files out of the recycle bin to another directory such
as c:\restore.
2. Go to the Command Prompt and navigate to that directory and type "rename
*.bak *.dbx".
3. Open OE and go to File | Identities and set up a new Identity and make
sure antivirus email scanning is off.
4. In the new Identity go to File | Import | Messages and point to the
c:\restore directory.
5. The files should import into the new Identity and then messages should
then be restored.


If they'd had to implement all the restore capabilities with the patch, we
never would have gotten it.


All is not lost yet, Steve. I see many more sales into the far future.
g But I guess that would have involved the Shell Team and they are not
the most responsive to requests. damn them


I don't want to continue to profit from the heartache of message loss. You
are correct, now "all is not lost", but rather the messages are "saved and
found again".

Praise be to Bill! Or JimAll in this case!

rofl

steve



--
Jim

Steve Cochran wrote:
snip
It's the restore process I'm not sure about. I would have liked to have
seen an option to recover/copy from the Recycle Bin to a new folder,
then an attempt at import/extract as needed by the user, rather than a
wholesale backup and overwrite of everything in the store folder. Any
glitch during that though, and DBXpress will be the only tool that might
work.

The most often seen scenario by me anyway is that part or all of a folder
(e.g. sent items) gets trashed. So the restore method would be as
follows:
1. First move the sent items.bak file out of the recycle bin (you can't
copy it out of there) to the desktop or another directory.
snip

QED: Where does, e.g., Sent Items.bak end up if user chooses to Restore the
file?
--
~PAÞ

Good question. G

"PA Bear" wrote in message
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Steve Cochran wrote:
snip
It's the restore process I'm not sure about. I would have liked to
have
seen an option to recover/copy from the Recycle Bin to a new folder,
then an attempt at import/extract as needed by the user, rather than a
wholesale backup and overwrite of everything in the store folder. Any
glitch during that though, and DBXpress will be the only tool that
might
work.

The most often seen scenario by me anyway is that part or all of a folder
(e.g. sent items) gets trashed. So the restore method would be as
follows:
1. First move the sent items.bak file out of the recycle bin (you can't
copy it out of there) to the desktop or another directory.
snip

QED: Where does, e.g., Sent Items.bak end up if user chooses to Restore
the file?
--
~PAÞ

It will go back to the folder where it was originally located (the Mail
Store), and the extension will be .bak. From there it should be simple to
copy all files ending with *.bak to a new folder, change the extension of
..dbx and use the extraction tools.
--
Jim


"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
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Good question. G

"PA Bear" wrote in message
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Steve Cochran wrote:
snip
It's the restore process I'm not sure about. I would have liked to
have
seen an option to recover/copy from the Recycle Bin to a new folder,
then an attempt at import/extract as needed by the user, rather than a
wholesale backup and overwrite of everything in the store folder. Any
glitch during that though, and DBXpress will be the only tool that
might
work.

The most often seen scenario by me anyway is that part or all of a
folder
(e.g. sent items) gets trashed. So the restore method would be as
follows:
1. First move the sent items.bak file out of the recycle bin (you can't
copy it out of there) to the desktop or another directory.
snip

QED: Where does, e.g., Sent Items.bak end up if user chooses to Restore
the file?
--
~PAÞ

I figgered one of you'd tested this. eg

Jim Pickering wrote:
It will go back to the folder where it was originally located (the Mail
Store), and the extension will be .bak. From there it should be simple to
copy all files ending with *.bak to a new folder, change the extension of
.dbx and use the extraction tools.

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
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Good question. G

"PA Bear" wrote in message
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Steve Cochran wrote:
snip
It's the restore process I'm not sure about. I would have liked
to have
seen an option to recover/copy from the Recycle Bin to a new
folder, then an attempt at import/extract as needed by the user,
rather than a wholesale backup and overwrite of everything in the
store folder. Any glitch during that though, and DBXpress will
be the only tool that might
work.

The most often seen scenario by me anyway is that part or all of a
folder
(e.g. sent items) gets trashed. So the restore method would be as
follows:
1. First move the sent items.bak file out of the recycle bin (you
can't copy it out of there) to the desktop or another directory.
snip

QED: Where does, e.g., Sent Items.bak end up if user chooses to
Restore the file?
--
~PAÞ

I hadn't thought of it.

steve

"PA Bear" wrote in message
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I figgered one of you'd tested this. eg

Jim Pickering wrote:
It will go back to the folder where it was originally located (the Mail
Store), and the extension will be .bak. From there it should be simple
to
copy all files ending with *.bak to a new folder, change the extension of
.dbx and use the extraction tools.

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Good question. G

"PA Bear" wrote in message
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Steve Cochran wrote:
snip
It's the restore process I'm not sure about. I would have liked
to have
seen an option to recover/copy from the Recycle Bin to a new
folder, then an attempt at import/extract as needed by the user,
rather than a wholesale backup and overwrite of everything in the
store folder. Any glitch during that though, and DBXpress will
be the only tool that might
work.

The most often seen scenario by me anyway is that part or all of a
folder
(e.g. sent items) gets trashed. So the restore method would be as
follows:
1. First move the sent items.bak file out of the recycle bin (you
can't copy it out of there) to the desktop or another directory.
snip

QED: Where does, e.g., Sent Items.bak end up if user chooses to
Restore the file?
--
~PAÞ

You shouldn't need the extraction tools. Just rename the messed up folder
and copy the backup to the store folder and change its file extension back
to dbx. You just have to replace the screwed up file. You don't need the
extraction tools.

And DBXpress has an option to show all files, so you wouldn't need to change
the file extension from .bak.

steve

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
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It will go back to the folder where it was originally located (the Mail
Store), and the extension will be .bak. From there it should be simple to
copy all files ending with *.bak to a new folder, change the extension of
.dbx and use the extraction tools.
--
Jim


"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
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Good question. G

"PA Bear" wrote in message
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Steve Cochran wrote:
snip
It's the restore process I'm not sure about. I would have liked to
have
seen an option to recover/copy from the Recycle Bin to a new folder,
then an attempt at import/extract as needed by the user, rather than
a
wholesale backup and overwrite of everything in the store folder.
Any
glitch during that though, and DBXpress will be the only tool that
might
work.

The most often seen scenario by me anyway is that part or all of a
folder
(e.g. sent items) gets trashed. So the restore method would be as
follows:
1. First move the sent items.bak file out of the recycle bin (you
can't
copy it out of there) to the desktop or another directory.
snip

QED: Where does, e.g., Sent Items.bak end up if user chooses to Restore
the file?
--
~PAÞ