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  #1  
Old March 26th 09, 09:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.exchange.admin,microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring,microsoft.public.outlook.general
el
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Hi all,
Wer are looking to use Exchange/Outlook for leave application approval and having a central place (most likely in a resource/Public Folders Calendar) to store staff's leave record.

Could you please share your experience?

TIA
el

(we use Exchange 2003, Outlook 2003/2007)
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Old March 26th 09, 10:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.exchange.admin,microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring,microsoft.public.outlook.general
Tan Tran
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Hi,

Best to use Sharepoint instead of Exchange Public folder.

Tan,
"el" drop_msg -@- hotmail -DOT- com wrote in message ...
Hi all,
Wer are looking to use Exchange/Outlook for leave application approval and having a central place (most likely in a resource/Public Folders Calendar) to store staff's leave record.

Could you please share your experience?

TIA
el

(we use Exchange 2003, Outlook 2003/2007)
  #3  
Old March 26th 09, 10:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.exchange.admin,microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring,microsoft.public.outlook.general
el
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Default Leave Calendar

I am not familiar with Sharepoint. But if it involves extra investment, that's not an option for us.

Any other suggestion, please?
"Tan Tran" wrote in message ...
Hi,

Best to use Sharepoint instead of Exchange Public folder.

Tan,
"el" drop_msg -@- hotmail -DOT- com wrote in message ...
Hi all,
Wer are looking to use Exchange/Outlook for leave application approval and having a central place (most likely in a resource/Public Folders Calendar) to store staff's leave record.

Could you please share your experience?

TIA
el

(we use Exchange 2003, Outlook 2003/2007)
  #4  
Old March 26th 09, 11:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.exchange.admin,microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring,microsoft.public.outlook.general
Tan Tran
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Default Leave Calendar

Because public folder can only hold items, only way i can think of is creating new calander to store staff leave record.

Again, this is not best practice at all.

You should try sharepoint as i've mentioned. It is free to use. Anyway, if you plan to upgrade to Exchange 2007 in future, MS recommed you should use SP instead PF

I give an example what you can do with SP. A user log on to SP workspace, she/he can submit an leave application. It will alert her manager via email. Then manager approve it and pass information to Payroll officer. Also every can share calander view of who currently off sick today etc...

All possible in SP.

Tan,
"el" drop_msg -@- hotmail -DOT- com wrote in message ...
I am not familiar with Sharepoint. But if it involves extra investment, that's not an option for us.

Any other suggestion, please?
"Tan Tran" wrote in message ...
Hi,

Best to use Sharepoint instead of Exchange Public folder.

Tan,
"el" drop_msg -@- hotmail -DOT- com wrote in message ...
Hi all,
Wer are looking to use Exchange/Outlook for leave application approval and having a central place (most likely in a resource/Public Folders Calendar) to store staff's leave record.

Could you please share your experience?

TIA
el

(we use Exchange 2003, Outlook 2003/2007)
  #5  
Old March 27th 09, 12:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.exchange.admin,microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring,microsoft.public.outlook.general
Diane Poremsky [MVP]
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Default Leave Calendar

Huh? You can have public folder calendars. You can do routing too, just like with sharepoint.... which el said they do not have. That leaves either a public folder for it or a resource mailbox.



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"Tan Tran" wrote in message ...
Because public folder can only hold items, only way i can think of is creating new calander to store staff leave record.

Again, this is not best practice at all.

You should try sharepoint as i've mentioned. It is free to use. Anyway, if you plan to upgrade to Exchange 2007 in future, MS recommed you should use SP instead PF

I give an example what you can do with SP. A user log on to SP workspace, she/he can submit an leave application. It will alert her manager via email. Then manager approve it and pass information to Payroll officer. Also every can share calander view of who currently off sick today etc...

All possible in SP.

Tan,
"el" drop_msg -@- hotmail -DOT- com wrote in message ...
I am not familiar with Sharepoint. But if it involves extra investment, that's not an option for us.

Any other suggestion, please?
"Tan Tran" wrote in message ...
Hi,

Best to use Sharepoint instead of Exchange Public folder.

Tan,
"el" drop_msg -@- hotmail -DOT- com wrote in message ...
Hi all,
Wer are looking to use Exchange/Outlook for leave application approval and having a central place (most likely in a resource/Public Folders Calendar) to store staff's leave record.

Could you please share your experience?

TIA
el

(we use Exchange 2003, Outlook 2003/2007)
  #6  
Old March 27th 09, 01:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.exchange.admin,microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring,microsoft.public.outlook.general
el
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Default Leave Calendar

Hi Diane,
I cannot say which one (Sharepoint or Exchange/Outlook) is better as I know nothing about Sharepoint. But I guess I would use Exchange/Outlook for this purpose (at least a know a little bit about Exchange/Outlook).

Could you point me to the right direction for information? Tan has actually mentioned what we wanted in his email for this thread:
1. leave applicant send an leave application appointment to her/his manager for approval
2. The manager approves/rejects the application on the appointment the applicant had sent
3. If the application was an approval, the application appointment will be replied back to the applicant and store in her/his calendar; and the same appointment will be send to the calendar of a resource mailbox to record the application
4. If the application was a rejection, the application appointment will be replied back to the applicant only.

Are those hard to implement? Any coding is required? (Sorry I must have asked too much!!!)

TIA
el


"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message ...
Huh? You can have public folder calendars. You can do routing too, just like with sharepoint.... which el said they do not have. That leaves either a public folder for it or a resource mailbox.



--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com

Outlook Tips by email:


EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:


You can access this newsgroup by visiting http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.

"Tan Tran" wrote in message ...
Because public folder can only hold items, only way i can think of is creating new calander to store staff leave record.

Again, this is not best practice at all.

You should try sharepoint as i've mentioned. It is free to use. Anyway, if you plan to upgrade to Exchange 2007 in future, MS recommed you should use SP instead PF

I give an example what you can do with SP. A user log on to SP workspace, she/he can submit an leave application. It will alert her manager via email. Then manager approve it and pass information to Payroll officer. Also every can share calander view of who currently off sick today etc...

All possible in SP.

Tan,
"el" drop_msg -@- hotmail -DOT- com wrote in message ...
I am not familiar with Sharepoint. But if it involves extra investment, that's not an option for us.

Any other suggestion, please?
"Tan Tran" wrote in message ...
Hi,

Best to use Sharepoint instead of Exchange Public folder.

Tan,
"el" drop_msg -@- hotmail -DOT- com wrote in message ...
Hi all,
Wer are looking to use Exchange/Outlook for leave application approval and having a central place (most likely in a resource/Public Folders Calendar) to store staff's leave record.

Could you please share your experience?

TIA
el

(we use Exchange 2003, Outlook 2003/2007)
  #7  
Old March 27th 09, 03:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.exchange.admin,microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring,microsoft.public.outlook.general
Tan Tran
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Default Leave Calendar

EL,

If you're interested, have a look at this template http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...ng=en#Overview

Tan,
"el" drop_msg -@- hotmail -DOT- com wrote in message ...
Hi Diane,
I cannot say which one (Sharepoint or Exchange/Outlook) is better as I know nothing about Sharepoint. But I guess I would use Exchange/Outlook for this purpose (at least a know a little bit about Exchange/Outlook).

Could you point me to the right direction for information? Tan has actually mentioned what we wanted in his email for this thread:
1. leave applicant send an leave application appointment to her/his manager for approval
2. The manager approves/rejects the application on the appointment the applicant had sent
3. If the application was an approval, the application appointment will be replied back to the applicant and store in her/his calendar; and the same appointment will be send to the calendar of a resource mailbox to record the application
4. If the application was a rejection, the application appointment will be replied back to the applicant only.

Are those hard to implement? Any coding is required? (Sorry I must have asked too much!!!)

TIA
el


"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message ...
Huh? You can have public folder calendars. You can do routing too, just like with sharepoint.... which el said they do not have. That leaves either a public folder for it or a resource mailbox.



--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com

Outlook Tips by email:


EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:


You can access this newsgroup by visiting http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.

"Tan Tran" wrote in message ...
Because public folder can only hold items, only way i can think of is creating new calander to store staff leave record.

Again, this is not best practice at all.

You should try sharepoint as i've mentioned. It is free to use. Anyway, if you plan to upgrade to Exchange 2007 in future, MS recommed you should use SP instead PF

I give an example what you can do with SP. A user log on to SP workspace, she/he can submit an leave application. It will alert her manager via email. Then manager approve it and pass information to Payroll officer. Also every can share calander view of who currently off sick today etc...

All possible in SP.

Tan,
"el" drop_msg -@- hotmail -DOT- com wrote in message ...
I am not familiar with Sharepoint. But if it involves extra investment, that's not an option for us.

Any other suggestion, please?
"Tan Tran" wrote in message ...
Hi,

Best to use Sharepoint instead of Exchange Public folder.

Tan,
"el" drop_msg -@- hotmail -DOT- com wrote in message ...
Hi all,
Wer are looking to use Exchange/Outlook for leave application approval and having a central place (most likely in a resource/Public Folders Calendar) to store staff's leave record.

Could you please share your experience?

TIA
el

(we use Exchange 2003, Outlook 2003/2007)
  #8  
Old March 27th 09, 04:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.exchange.admin,microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring,microsoft.public.outlook.general
Diane Poremsky [MVP]
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Posts: 12,991
Default Leave Calendar

Yes, coding will be required - whether you use Exchange or SharePoint.

MS has a custom form for vacation requests - http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=EN - it should work with all versions of Outlook, although the installation method is a bit different because of security (http://www.outlook-tips.net/howto/publish_form.htm). I don't know that this is the way to go - I'd probably do my own system instead of using this form.

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Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com

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EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:


You can access this newsgroup by visiting http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.

"el" drop_msg -@- hotmail -DOT- com wrote in message ...
Hi Diane,
I cannot say which one (Sharepoint or Exchange/Outlook) is better as I know nothing about Sharepoint. But I guess I would use Exchange/Outlook for this purpose (at least a know a little bit about Exchange/Outlook).

Could you point me to the right direction for information? Tan has actually mentioned what we wanted in his email for this thread:
1. leave applicant send an leave application appointment to her/his manager for approval
2. The manager approves/rejects the application on the appointment the applicant had sent
3. If the application was an approval, the application appointment will be replied back to the applicant and store in her/his calendar; and the same appointment will be send to the calendar of a resource mailbox to record the application
4. If the application was a rejection, the application appointment will be replied back to the applicant only.

Are those hard to implement? Any coding is required? (Sorry I must have asked too much!!!)

TIA
el


"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message ...
Huh? You can have public folder calendars. You can do routing too, just like with sharepoint.... which el said they do not have. That leaves either a public folder for it or a resource mailbox.



--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com

Outlook Tips by email:


EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:


You can access this newsgroup by visiting http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.

"Tan Tran" wrote in message ...
Because public folder can only hold items, only way i can think of is creating new calander to store staff leave record.

Again, this is not best practice at all.

You should try sharepoint as i've mentioned. It is free to use. Anyway, if you plan to upgrade to Exchange 2007 in future, MS recommed you should use SP instead PF

I give an example what you can do with SP. A user log on to SP workspace, she/he can submit an leave application. It will alert her manager via email. Then manager approve it and pass information to Payroll officer. Also every can share calander view of who currently off sick today etc...

All possible in SP.

Tan,
"el" drop_msg -@- hotmail -DOT- com wrote in message ...
I am not familiar with Sharepoint. But if it involves extra investment, that's not an option for us.

Any other suggestion, please?
"Tan Tran" wrote in message ...
Hi,

Best to use Sharepoint instead of Exchange Public folder.

Tan,
"el" drop_msg -@- hotmail -DOT- com wrote in message ...
Hi all,
Wer are looking to use Exchange/Outlook for leave application approval and having a central place (most likely in a resource/Public Folders Calendar) to store staff's leave record.

Could you please share your experience?

TIA
el

(we use Exchange 2003, Outlook 2003/2007)
  #9  
Old March 27th 09, 03:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.exchange.admin,microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring,microsoft.public.outlook.general
Boz[_2_]
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Default Leave Calendar

Windows SharePoint Services V3 is free on top of Windows Server. Should be enough support in that to do a simple solution.....

Don't forget that very long term you will see PFs disappear (based on what MSFT are saying) with Sharepoint as the preferred delivery.....so if you go with a PF solution you will have to do it all again sooner or later...



"el" drop_msg -@- hotmail -DOT- com wrote in message ...
I am not familiar with Sharepoint. But if it involves extra investment, that's not an option for us.

Any other suggestion, please?
"Tan Tran" wrote in message ...
Hi,

Best to use Sharepoint instead of Exchange Public folder.

Tan,
"el" drop_msg -@- hotmail -DOT- com wrote in message ...
Hi all,
Wer are looking to use Exchange/Outlook for leave application approval and having a central place (most likely in a resource/Public Folders Calendar) to store staff's leave record.

Could you please share your experience?

TIA
el

(we use Exchange 2003, Outlook 2003/2007)
 




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